Psalm 83, Ezekiel 38 and the Encircling Foes of Israel

[Diaste]

If it's believed that Psalm 83 is a list of nations that come against Israel at the end what are we seeing right now?

Cush and Put are named as two nations that come with the vast army of Ezekiel 38. The Sudan is Cush.

Arabia has become normalized partners with Israel on the world stage. Arabia is the Ishmaelites as well as other people groups mentioned in Psalm 83.

Is the normalization of relations with Israel just part of:

"With cunning they scheme against Your people and conspire against those You cherish, saying, “Come, let us erase them as a nation;

may the name of Israel be remembered no more.” For with one mind they plot together, they form an alliance against You—" - Psalm 83

It's most interesting that nations and peoples which have been ancient enemies of Israel are suddenly coming to the table, not necessarily as friends but at least as neighbors saying, "You can live at peace with us."

Is Libya next?

Is it a plot, a scheme, to give Israel a sense of security only to attack later?

 

 

[Uriah]

14 hours ago, Diaste said:

If it's believed that Psalm 83 is a list of nations that come against Israel at the end what are we seeing right now?

Cush and Put are named as two nations that come with the vast army of Ezekiel 38. The Sudan is Cush.

Arabia has become normalized partners with Israel on the world stage. Arabia is the Ishmaelites as well as other people groups mentioned in Psalm 83.

Is the normalization of relations with Israel just part of:

"With cunning they scheme against Your people and conspire against those You cherish, saying, “Come, let us erase them as a nation;

may the name of Israel be remembered no more.” For with one mind they plot together, they form an alliance against You—" - Psalm 83

It's most interesting that nations and peoples which have been ancient enemies of Israel are suddenly coming to the table, not necessarily as friends but at least as neighbors saying, "You can live at peace with us."

Is Libya next?

Is it a plot, a scheme, to give Israel a sense of security only to attack later?

 

 

Hello Diaste

Yes, I believe it is getting close. But I don't believe these are "separate" wars from the big one-Armageddon. Israel will be betrayed by the nations shown to attack her.

[Revelation Man]

16 hours ago, Diaste said:

If it's believed that Psalm 83 is a list of nations that come against Israel at the end what are we seeing right now?

Cush and Put are named as two nations that come with the vast army of Ezekiel 38. The Sudan is Cush.

Arabia has become normalized partners with Israel on the world stage. Arabia is the Ishmaelites as well as other people groups mentioned in Psalm 83.

Is the normalization of relations with Israel just part of:

"With cunning they scheme against Your people and conspire against those You cherish, saying, “Come, let us erase them as a nation;

may the name of Israel be remembered no more.” For with one mind they plot together, they form an alliance against You—" - Psalm 83

It's most interesting that nations and peoples which have been ancient enemies of Israel are suddenly coming to the table, not necessarily as friends but at least as neighbors saying, "You can live at peace with us."

Is Libya next?

Is it a plot, a scheme, to give Israel a sense of security only to attack later?

 

 

Think of Psalm 83, then go look at the 1948-49 war of Independence by Israel. The exact same players are in Psalm 83 and the 1948 war. Israel has never been at peace since, the Suez Crisis in 56, the 6 Days War in 67, the War of Yon Kippur in 73, the Lebanon war in the 82. The first Arab Intifada from 87-93, the Gulf War in 92, The second Arab intifada from 2000-2004, in 2006 the Hezbollah war and in 2008-09 the war with Hamas. Israel conquered all these foes all along the way, thus Israel has never really lived in "UNWALLED VIALLAGES" (in peace) since it became a nation again in 1948. So, in order for the War of Gog & Magog to come to pass Israel must live in "UNWALLED VIALLIGAES" (at Peace with its neighbors) before this War comes to pass. AND NOTICE:

Not one of the Nations in the Gog & Magog War has a common Border with Israel. It is basically Turkey, Russia and Iran. It is not Lebanon, nor Egypt, nor Syria, nor Jordan, so this Peace is a MUST but its not what they use to deceive Israel, these nations do not fight Israel, basically, Russia, Turkey and Iran does, and God defeats them. THEN, after the Rapture the Anti-Christ comes out of Europe, he defeats (See Dan. 11:40-43) Israel, Lebanon, Syria, and ALL of North Africa to become THE BEAST. Turkey, Russia and Iran ARE NOT SUCCESSFUL, God defeats them, the Anti-Christ is successful against the Mediterranean Sea Region/Israel. 

In my opinion, Psalm 83 was 1948 mostly, then Israel had independence, and the same crew wared with Israel all the way until 2009, and other minor skirmishes, but before Gog & Magog can come to pass, Israel has to be AT PEACE on all sides, and Trump is being used by God to make that happen. Only a pragmatist could get this done. People like John Kerry/Obama etc. always felt you had to appease the Palestinians, Trump felt you had to isolate them, he saw they did not want peace, they are just like libs, they want THE ISSUE. So, before the Gog and Magog war can come to pass, there has to be Peace between Israel and her neighbors, but Russia and its friends are not successful, the Anti-Christ will be successful. They are not the same war. 

The "PEACE" via the Anti-Christ is between the E.U., Israel AND the MANY in the Mediterranean Sea Region. Israel will be at peace (UNWALLED VIALIAGES) when this Russia, Turkey, Iran alliance makes its move, it doesn't mean Egypt, Lebanon, Syria etc. etc, help in the attack. 

[Shilohsfoal]

On 10/25/2020 at 5:50 AM, Diaste said:

If it's believed that Psalm 83 is a list of nations that come against Israel at the end what are we seeing right now?

Cush and Put are named as two nations that come with the vast army of Ezekiel 38. The Sudan is Cush.

Arabia has become normalized partners with Israel on the world stage. Arabia is the Ishmaelites as well as other people groups mentioned in Psalm 83.

Is the normalization of relations with Israel just part of:

"With cunning they scheme against Your people and conspire against those You cherish, saying, “Come, let us erase them as a nation;

may the name of Israel be remembered no more.” For with one mind they plot together, they form an alliance against You—" - Psalm 83

It's most interesting that nations and peoples which have been ancient enemies of Israel are suddenly coming to the table, not necessarily as friends but at least as neighbors saying, "You can live at peace with us."

Is Libya next?

Is it a plot, a scheme, to give Israel a sense of security only to attack later?

 

 

The key to understanding when Gog invades Israel is found in Revelation. That information is provided to Christ by God for your benifit. 

The key to understanding the difference between  psalms 83 and Gogs invasion of Israel is Egypt. 

Ethiopia and Libia both Invade Israel with Gog but not Egypt. Do you understand why? 

Edited October 27, 2020 by Shilohsfoal

[R. Hartono]

On 10/27/2020 at 6:31 PM, Shilohsfoal said:

The key to understanding when Gog invades Israel is found in Revelation. That information is provided to Christ by God for your benifit. 

The key to understanding the difference between  psalms 83 and Gogs invasion of Israel is Egypt. 

Ethiopia and Libia both Invade Israel with Gog but not Egypt. Do you understand why? 

Yes psalm war has been fulfilled in 6 days war 1967.

Edited October 29, 2020 by R. Hartono

[Shilohsfoal]

3 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Yes psalm war has been fulfilled in 7 days war 1967.

Not hardly. The ten nations of Psalms 83 are the ten nations of the beast. They will make war with the Lamb. 

https://biblehub.com/niv/psalms/83-5.htm

 

https://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/17-13.htm

https://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/17-14.htm

 

Unless you believe the Israeli government is the Lord. 

Edited October 28, 2020 by Shilohsfoal

[R. Hartono]

On 10/28/2020 at 8:40 AM, Shilohsfoal said:

Not hardly. The ten nations of Psalms 83 are the ten nations of the beast. They will make war with the Lamb. 

https://biblehub.com/niv/psalms/83-5.htm

 

https://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/17-13.htm

https://biblehub.com/kjv/revelation/17-14.htm

 

Unless you believe the Israeli government is the Lord. 

Israel has reoccupied Jerusalem in six days war in 67 which is fulfillment of Psalms.

The 10 horns army will b gathered at Armageddon at the end of 7 years Tribulation. 

Peace.

Edited October 29, 2020 by R. Hartono

[Shilohsfoal]

8 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

Israel has reoccupied Jerusalem in six days war in 67 which is fulfillment of Psalms.

The 10 horns army will b gathered at Armageddon at the end of 7 years Tribulation. 

Peace.

True Israel defeated three other horns for possession of the seven heads in 1967, but that is not the Psalms 83 war in which they fight against the Lord. 

What makes you think the Israeli government is the Lord? 

 

https://biblehub.com/psalms/83-5.htm

Edited October 29, 2020 by Shilohsfoal

[Shilohsfoal]

On 10/25/2020 at 5:50 AM, Diaste said:

If it's believed that Psalm 83 is a list of nations that come against Israel at the end what are we seeing right now?

Cush and Put are named as two nations that come with the vast army of Ezekiel 38. The Sudan is Cush.

Arabia has become normalized partners with Israel on the world stage. Arabia is the Ishmaelites as well as other people groups mentioned in Psalm 83.

Is the normalization of relations with Israel just part of:

"With cunning they scheme against Your people and conspire against those You cherish, saying, “Come, let us erase them as a nation;

may the name of Israel be remembered no more.” For with one mind they plot together, they form an alliance against You—" - Psalm 83

It's most interesting that nations and peoples which have been ancient enemies of Israel are suddenly coming to the table, not necessarily as friends but at least as neighbors saying, "You can live at peace with us."

Is Libya next?

Is it a plot, a scheme, to give Israel a sense of security only to attack later?

 

 

What we are seeing now are not the nations that come against Israel in psalms 83. 

 

EGYPT, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Gaza, are not going to become friends of Israel. 

In the Psalms 83 war all these nations are destroyed. 5 cities in Egypt become part of Israel because they are located in the promised land. The rest of Egypt will lay desolate for 40 years. No one will be able to live there for 40 years. 

Edited October 29, 2020 by Shilohsfoal

[WilliamL]

On 10/25/2020 at 3:50 AM, Diaste said:

If it's believed that Psalm 83 is a list of nations that come against Israel at the end what are we seeing right now?

A common teaching these days, but in actuality, Psalm 83 has nothing to do with the End Times. (Ezekiel 38-39 does.)

Psalm 83 and related Psalms by Asaph, such as 74 and 80, were his reports about what he saw before his eyes in ca. 485 B.C.  Xerxes allowed Judah's foes to sack the land, Jerusalem, and Temple, because they had anointed a king over themselves, in expectation of Isaiah's prophecies about the Messiah being fulfilled in their time. Xerxes had other rebellions do deal with more pressing than the little pipsqueak nation of Judah, so let the surrounding nations do his dirty work.

These things are explained in more detail here:

21. The Psalm 83 War: When?

An explanation of the historical background of Psalm 83 and related OT texts, and the modern false presumptions about them.

https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/1166-the-psalm-83-war-when/