Protestant? Catholic? Confused...

[Waggles]

Now that we all have developed a love of rocks - I digress to make mention of the most famous rock (stone) in the known world - the Stone of Scone -  reputedly the very rock that Jacob laid his head upon and dreamt of the stairway to heaven with our Lord God at the very top and with angels ascending and descending. Genesis 28:10-22

The Stone of Scone is also believed to have been taken by Jeremiah (along with the two daughters of Zedekiah) over to Ireland. This stone is underneath the coronation throne of Edward I (taken from Scotland in 1296) and forms the 'foundation' for various claims that the British throne fullfils promises to David that his seed would occupy a throne until the son of David returns to set up his throne (in Jerusalem).

[Duck]

16 hours ago, LearningToLetGo said:

Peter is the rock. 

Faith in Jesus is the rock 

[Justin Adams]

17 hours ago, Riverwalker said:

Thats a long way From Roman Catholicism

Yes it is. They tried for centuries to pervert all this. Rewriting history and the scriptures. But as always, God is many steps ahead of them and the Qumran discoveries put paid to many many years of distorted 'facts'. The eastern church, not under the Roman edicts, also preserved a great deal of original texts. Our western so-called canon did not prevail and along with the current online documentation and translational abilities, we can once again see what was really said. We have the best study tools available online and the much abridged seminary teachings will not prevail. I do not think I can mention names since I already fell foul of the party line for doing so, but those that know should spread the real messages and get us out of the dark ages of supernatural fear. Do not fear your scriptures, any of them. Remember, 'inspiration' is not an event but a process. Inspiration is not a channeled paranormal download, but God took people where they were and prepared them for keeping true accounts as He wished it. If they messed up (people are prone to this) He just sent another to carefully edit His Works and in the end, God got what He wanted. A providential process.

[Starise]

14 hours ago, LearningToLetGo said:

Perhaps he's more of a general contractor? ;-)

On a serious note, thank you to everyone who has contributed to this thread. I have learned a great deal from our conversation.

Jason

The fact that there were not many trees in the region, even back then means a carpenter would have had a tough time of it. If we take the Greek translation and look at it while comparing a Jewish cultural perspective I believe He was probably a mason. Which means he might have been pretty buff. You don't lift rocks all day and not have some serious biceps.

Here's one article on it. There are many more for anyone interested.

https://leadership.lifeway.com/2017/04/04/the-forgotten-jesus-part-2-was-jesus-a-carpenter-or-a-stonemason/

[teddyv]

2 hours ago, Starise said:

The fact that there were not many trees in the region, even back then means a carpenter would have had a tough time of it. If we take the Greek translation and look at it while comparing a Jewish cultural perspective I believe He was probably a mason. Which means he might have been pretty buff. You don't lift rocks all day and not have some serious biceps.

Here's one article on it. There are many more for anyone interested.

https://leadership.lifeway.com/2017/04/04/the-forgotten-jesus-part-2-was-jesus-a-carpenter-or-a-stonemason/

I assume Lebanon was still a source of lumber then.

[Starise]

7 minutes ago, teddyv said:

I assume Lebanon was still a source of lumber then.

I can't claim to be expert on where lumber was sourced during this time period. Would need to check into this more. That lumber came from Lebanon is  correct in earlier times. I am thinking wood sent down the river from miles away was a rich man's game. 

[LearningToLetGo]

I've been reading lots of conflicting opinions about this passage and watching lots of conflicting videos. One thing that still perplexes me is Matthew 16:19 where Jesus addresses Peter in the second person singular. It's easier to read in KJV.

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19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

The use of "thee" instead of "ye" or "you" means that these words are addressed to Peter and Peter alone.

[Justin Adams]

2 hours ago, LearningToLetGo said:

The use of "thee" instead of "ye" or "you" means that these words are addressed to Peter and Peter alone.

Peter was given a lot to do eventually. It was this guy that had to see Cornelius. That began the regathering of the nations promised to Abraham. So Peter was special in many regards. He disowned Yeshua and yet was told three times, 'feed my sheep'.

[Duck]

Matt. 16

Simon Peter answered and said, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.”

¹⁷ Jesus answered and said to him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven. 

The revelation that Jesus is The Messiah. Upon THIS Rock, He has built, and will continue to build His church

[Regenerated-Adult]

6 hours ago, LearningToLetGo said:

I've been reading lots of conflicting opinions about this passage and watching lots of conflicting videos. One thing that still perplexes me is Matthew 16:19 where Jesus addresses Peter in the second person singular. It's easier to read in KJV.

The use of "thee" instead of "ye" or "you" means that these words are addressed to Peter and Peter alone.

So you want to be a Roman Catholic then?