Who is the anti-christ?

[Waggles]

This all going to happen in the future is nonsense and unscriptural.

Daniel's seventy weeks prophecy is not futuristic it has already come and gone at the time of Jesus and the destruction of the Temple in 70 AD.

As for the Church of Rome and the Papacy these both are reborn out of the destroyed old imperial Roman Empire -

the first beast is Rome and worldly empires that come from out of her  ... 

the second beast comes out of Rome and is the Papacy as an office; therefore a man by title and function ...  And the world does follow and worship the beast, the anti-Christ. Even now Pope Francis is in Iraq being feted by Muslims and attracting crowds of thousands.

And who is there in all of Christianity that can compare with the Pope? Who is the supreme bishop of the Lutherans? Or of the Anglicans? Or of any other Orthodox or Protestant churches? Only the Popes of Rome enjoy being a head of state and having other kings and presidents call in for a chat. 

 

[Michael37]

2 hours ago, Waggles said:

Only the Popes of Rome enjoy being a head of state and having other kings and presidents call in for a chat. 

Let the acronyms speak:

POTUS - President Of The United States

POPE - President Of Planet Earth

BEAST - Blasphemous Empire Authorising Satanic Tyranny (1)

BEAST - Blasphemous Emperor Authorising Satanic Tyranny (2)

[Waggles]

Mystery Babylon - Lying wonders - anti the anointing - against the truth - denying the authority of the word of God - idolatry - scandals without end 

 

Fatima Portugal 1917 coinciding with the Russian Revolution - 50,000 people watch as the sun dances in the sky. 

[Unit 11]

I once read a tract that asserted the Antichrist was now living somewhere on earth. This was in the 1970's. 

Whoever he'll be, I just hope he appears after my time. While we should be watchful, there's not much point in worrying about something when we have no way of knowing when it'll arrive. 

 

[Mike Mclees]

17 hours ago, David1701 said:

He was revealed long ago.  He is none other than the "little horn", in Daniel chapter 7, which arose out of the fourth "beast" (the Roman Empire), having been split into ten kingdoms, after its fall.

Rome fell in 476 A.D., which means that the anti-Christ had to arise not very long after this.  This agrees with 2 Thess. 2.

2 Thess. 2:3-8 (Webster)

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come , except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
  4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
  5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
  6 And now ye know what restraineth that he might be revealed in his time. 
  7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now restraineth will do so , until he be taken out of the way.
  8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

The early Church knew what was restraining the anti-Christ from arising, because Paul had told them.  We have some of their documents and they show that it was the Roman Empire (or the emperor, as representing that empire).

1) The apostasy had to happen first (a great departure from the faith once for all delivered to God's people).  This had already happened, by the time of the Emperor Constantine.

2) The Roman Empire (the restrainer) had to fall, which happened in 476 A.D..

3) The spiritual authority of Caesar (the latter Caesars had declared themselves to be gods) was transferred to the Bishop of Rome, by the Emperor Justinian, in 538 A.D..

4) The Bishop of Rome was given a seat of authority, in Rome itself.

5) This anti-Christ had to sit (i.e. in a seat of authority) in the temple of God (i.e. the professing Church), exalting himself above God.  The Bishop of Rome (the so-called "Pope") did exactly this, claiming authority to change times and God's laws, thus putting himself above God.

This, and much more besides, was all common knowledge, from the Reformation, for about 300 years, until serious decay set into the Protestant Church and false teaching began to prevail (e.g. the teaching that the anti-Christ will be a man, at the end of time - this teaching was started by a Jesuit called Ribera, who was part of the RC counter-Reformation).

For those who are weak in spirit will leave the church the more they begin to see what is happening, they will fall  away the great falling away  is already working. 

The pope is one who is of antichrist as the church of Rome and the political visions of the world sleep in the same bed. I see Him more as the false profit that will think alike as the antichrist. The Papacie being of great influence will Help the antichrist  in His ultimate goal not knowing that when the antichrist achieves His vision at the abomination of desolation declaring  "I am God" will cause the nations that gave soverenty to him to seek to destroy the Vatican along with Christians or any one else that rebels against Him by not taking his mark. The antichrist will despise anything all that represents Jesus Christ. This is the final thrust against Jesus  by satan . Today  every person or entity that denies Christ is antichrist but not thee antichrist. 

Since the Bible has made all this so well known to believers and non believers alike the true anti Christ maybe more stealth in his appearing .

Edited March 8, 2021 by Mike Mclees

[luigi]

The antichrist is everything that is contrary to what Christ is and lived. He is anti love, as God is love. He would therefore be a hate your neighbor individual.

[Starise]

The bible teaches the spirit of anti-christ is here now at work in the world.

We can see this boldly apparent in the papacy. Back before 1000 A.D on into 1300 A.D. and beyond, popes were really military generals who commanded armies of men in "crusades" promising salvation and forgiveness of sins to knights who dedicated themselves to the cause in taking oaths of celebacy and poverty.

It is pretty obvious that many common men did not have the scriptures or they would never have entertained the idea that a pope had the authority to forgive sins and save men from hell.So these popes used the catholic version of Christianity ( which inflates works in importance over Christ's attonement for our sins.) They used this hybridized form of Christianity to rape and pillage large sections of Europe and the middle east including Jerusalem in the name of the Lord. Not much different really than what the Muslim world believes. Conquest for God is a holy conquest or holy war, only it's on their terms and has nothing to do with either Christianity or the Bible. The Catholic church is probably directly responsible for more war and horrors than all of the atheist countries who tortured Christians. At the very least they are close cousins.It has been theorized at least one pope used the religious tactics used by the Muslims as a guide for their own holy wars.

Through history we can see the succession of these popes along with their knights and armies stealing, plundering and torturing in the name of God. None of it ever had anything to do with true Christianity. I seriously doubt many popes were actually Christians including Pope Francis.. 

The baton has been handed down through the popes who are most definitely working in the spirit of the anti-christ.

At the very end the baton will be handed off to THE ANTI-CHRIST. I'll call it the last baton. He might not be called a pope. The actual pope then might finally bow to him. That last baton is the worst ever. It will be an amalgamation of all evil coming to a climax at the very end of days. All of the little "anti-christs"will join their supreme leader and join as a one world forced religion. I believe it will be forced or else. Most of us will be in the "or else" category.

This is really good news when it happens for us. The end is drawing near. Our deliverance is at hand either after death or as still here. We will all rise to meet the Lord who will judge and destroy those left who followed the AC with His mighty wrath poured out. It will be the worst day to be on the wrong side of God....ever.

Edited March 8, 2021 by Starise

[Charlie744]

I am not sure who the AC is but, for me, a more important figure is the one specifically mentioned in Daniel.

We find the 4 kingdoms of the earth described in chapter 2, 7 & 8. The 4 kingdoms are "fixed" in 2, and then we are given additional characteristics / information for each of the 4 as they move into the later chapters of Daniel. 

In chapter 7 we are then introduced to an additional actors - the "little horn". The 10 horns were not a new actor as they were shown in 2 as the 10 toes.

So this "little horn" actor will come out of the 4th kingdom (pagan Rome). They are not the beast, they are not the 4th kingdom but they take the power from the declining pagan Roman empire. This "little horn" will sit atop of the "beast" and is concerned with power, control, etc., over mankind using his religious / spiritual tools. He will indeed corrupt the Word of God, speak against Him, think to change times and laws (certainly the 4th commandment), contend he can forgive sins, and on and on.

This is the one we have been subjected to since the 500 AD period. Like the movie "The Wizard of Oz", don't worry and concern yourselves about who is behind the curtain (some AC boogeyman), the one who is against God and wants to take your soul is right in front of us......

Just my thoughts, Charlie

[Guest]

22 hours ago, David1701 said:

The anti-Christ is the "Pope", who sits in the temple of God (the professing Church), claims authority to change times and laws, makes war on true Christians (millions have been tortured and murdered on his authority), has titles of blasphemy (including "Holy Father" and "Vicar of Christ", and this latter one means "Instead of Christ", i.e. anti-Christ), is head of the one of the richest organisations on Earth, leaders of the world bow down to him and kiss his ring in obeisance, etc, etc..

One of the mainstays of the Reformation was that the "Pope" is the anti-Christ.

The Jews will never accept a Christian (the Pope) as their christ.

[Jedi4Yahweh]

On 3/7/2021 at 9:21 AM, JohnD said:

For the sake of argument, those who believe the antichrist is a system or religion please refrain from derailing this discussion.

IF (notice I said if for your sakes) the antichrist is an actual person as I believe the Bible teaches (and identifies)... then who is it?

The bible says there are many anti-christ.   If your referring to Man of Sin, the Man of Lawlessness, the 7th Horn/8th King of the Beast World Government system.  Then no this person has not been revealed yet, we can only speculate who is.  The bible says he will not be revealed until the Great Apostasy (Mega Falling Away).  Its pretty clear the worlds stage has been set for him to come to power through the UN nations (Revised Roman Empire).  The bible says he will be worshipped by all nations small and great and everyone will receive the mark of the Beast World Government, except those sealed by God and he will make war against those who do not receive this mark.