Making a Habit of Arguing/Debating Scripture

[Hopefully]

1 hour ago, Not me said:

Then self is being put to death and one’s relationship with Christ grows to put a joy in the heart no outward struggle can put a dent in

Amen and thank you.

[Not me]

44 minutes ago, Hopefully said:

Amen and thank you.

Be blessed as He teaches you all things inwardly...

A fellow believer, Not me 

[Alive]

The scriptures teach us that He is well able to keep them that are His and we know why. Because they are His and He won't lose one. No amount of misunderstanding or lack of knowledge will change that.

He took responsibility for us.

[David1701]

19 hours ago, kingdombrat said:

Amen!

 

I was thinking how much their [Arm vs Calvin] own viewpoints have literally dictated several entire Organizations of Protestants?

 

Just incredible the influence 2 human men had on so many!

That is true of Arminius (and his disciples); but not true of Calvin.  Those whom some people call "Calvinists" are hardly ever followers of Calvin.  They simply believe what the Bible says about God's sovereignty in salvation, and have often not even read what Calvin wrote.

[DeighAnn]

11 hours ago, Hopefully said:

I get what you are saying and agree with it but as for this platform is it productive? 
 

The same people have been arguing with each other for years as if nobody has changed anybody’s mind. 
 

I see more disagreement than agreements and it hinders people from speaking the truth just to avoid the arguments. You almost can’t say what your favorite color is without someone disagreeing. 
 

When I see a post I agree with I support it. When I see one I don’t agree with I may throw a verse in to see if it sheds light- and usually it does not- but all the back and forth bickering is really useless. 
 

God will have his people no matter what. We may see people in a current state of confusion but that doesn’t mean they will stay that way. Even we were once lost and confused. 
 

I am just glad I learned from the Bible and Gods spirit and not a place were people bicker constantly. I am thankful I had read alot of the Bible in the spirit before coming here. 
 

Woe to the new in Christ trying to learn in this place. They will be pulled to and fro according to the most convincing penmanship and or the post with most support which does not mean it’s correct. 
 

To the new in Christ I say get out of here and come back when God has settled you and you are sure what you believe no matter what anybody else says.

I believe God leads us to the truth.  I believe it needs to be found.  If it isn't put forth then the only thing out there is the lies.  If you don't think there is a concerted effort to obscure Gods truth then I don't know what to say.  

Maybe a review of what God thought and did for those who 'have never drank wine', as commanded.  They are our enemies, and they are vigilant, and the realm Satan is most going to work is IN THE WORD.  We have to put on the gospel armor to withstand the fiery darts of Satan.  It's not a game it is a war.  God dresses us up as SOLDIERS.  

BUT PLEASE, don't get me wrong, HE made some of us evangelists, ministers, teachers... many membered body,  

ALL I am saying is that part may not be for you  but to make those who have been called to it FEEL like they are doing something wrong maybe needs to be thought about.  There are prayer pages and I think pages to cover which ever way one is led  on this forum.  I can't imagine posting something about those who get together and do prayer circles as 'not doing enough', because I believe that is just as necessary as anything else anyone does for God.

Boils down to
Either we put out the truth or only lies get put out.  It isn't easy being a Christian but it is Blessedly satisfying, peaceful and worthwhile and there is nothing on this earth that could be offered to me that I would exchange it for.  Hopefully this is read in the light of love, as that is all it is put forth in this morning.  God bless your journey...

[leah777]

12 hours ago, Hopefully said:

Woe to the new in Christ trying to learn in this place. They will be pulled to and fro according to the most convincing penmanship and or the post with most support which does not mean it’s correct

actually, personally, its the opposite. I read, I see different sides, I pray, I look up scripture, I pray some more, I learn.

For those like me with no church to go to, this site is a God send for deeper study of scripture and learning more about God.

Many of my wrong ideas have been put right by the efforts of those 'arguing'. Even the one who I come to disagree with.

[debrakay]

@Hopefully Thank you for posting this thread.  I have only been here for a bit over a month and within a few days was wondering what I had gotten myself into.  I have been on other forums before and lost interest mostly because of the scriptural disagreements and because those disagreements were way over my intellect.  I have always tried to be the peacemaker in my family so being a part of disputes are not for me.  I like to learn and understand what makes a person tick but and why they think as they do but in my experience arguing rarely solves the issue.  I believe that if the conversation does not edify the Lord and then does not bless my soul then it is probably not a topic the Holy Spirit would spur me on to be a part of.  Each person is called into the kingdom for a different purpose and for different people.  We learn and then we share with others not on this forum. 

While reading through all of the posts here there were many I wanted to comment on but my comments were of a personal opinion and not really worthy.  My husband and I determined decades ago that we were not going to say everything we thought.  This has helped for almost 40 years!  I am trying hard to apply that same concept here.  

[Guest kingdombrat]

3 hours ago, David1701 said:

That is true of Arminius (and his disciples); but not true of Calvin.  Those whom some people call "Calvinists" are hardly ever followers of Calvin.  They simply believe what the Bible says about God's sovereignty in salvation, and have often not even read what Calvin wrote.

Since I am so far from the surrounding and origins of this great debate, that seems to have lasted beyond Centuries, And my own Protestant roots did not indulge between the 2 idealism's, that I must take your word for it!

[Hopefully]

51 minutes ago, debrakay said:

This has helped for almost 40 years!  I am trying hard to apply that same concept here.  

God bless you, and me too.

[Hopefully]

2 hours ago, DeighAnn said:

ALL I am saying is that part may not be for you  but to make those who have been called to it FEEL like they are doing something wrong maybe needs to be thought about.

I do take your post as love. I do agree that God has called some to be warriors. I really did think before I made this post. I understand that not all will agree.