What is speaking in tongues and prophesying?

[debrakay]

6 hours ago, kingdombrat said:

What I am saying, if you can't look back from the time you're a child till now and find no [Miracles], chances are then, you were never born to live life.

Be sure to look back upon all of your ancestors too!  I have many of my lineages traced back for hundred of years.  One line ends (right now) at 1015!  Our ancestors endured.  They lived.  By the shear grace of God each of us reading this thread on this site are miracles of God Our Creator! According to His purpose! 

[debrakay]

2 hours ago, David1701 said:

What happened then, happens sometimes now.  It should happen much more often, but unbelief is a blockage.

Sadly we live in a world dominated by unbelief and deception.  He already hung on the cross once and he will not be back to do it again just so today's unbeliever can watch and see for themselves.

Besides, we all know the MSM would not accurately or truthfully report on miracles of today that could possibly turn a heart to God.  "Move along.  Nothing to see here!"

[Waggles]

To those who love to report Pentecostals for defending the gospel -

1Corinthians 4:19 But I [Paul] will come to you soon, if the Lord wills, and I will find out not the talk of these arrogant people but their power. 20 For the kingdom of God does not consist in talk but in power.

[enoob57]

5 hours ago, David1701 said:

What happened then, happens sometimes now.  It should happen much more often, but unbelief is a blockage.

I have heard that many times but I am not satisfied with the veracity of the statement ....

[JohnD]

Man is incurably religious. Which is probably the biggest thing standing between

God and man. In effect, it is a form of unbelief or distrust, that God is somehow

incapable of doing all that he said and showed us he will do... or that we feel some

sort of need to DO something... when all we are capable of is interfering...

For example, we  religionate names and words like prophet or prophesy... 

"Oh he's a [prophet]"

wooo 

"Or he is speaking a [prophecy]..."

I feel faint...

The name and title are from the same root as profess and professor, for pity sake.

The thing to be awestruck by is the message from God.

We have God's book of prophecy (from cover to cover) already in our Bibles.

Then there are many frauds and charlatans whose egos attempt to draw attention to themselves

as a prophet and speaking prophecies as they prophesy...

Read aloud the passage in the Bible the Holy Spirit directs you to and then I'll marvel (but not at you).

[Justin Adams]

11 hours ago, debrakay said:

21 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

A faith based on miracles is not a mature faith.

Only a faith based on the saving miracle of the resurrection of Jesus Christ is going to make it.  Everything else is dust in the wind.  No follower of Christ would base their foundation of faith on anything but the Messiah, Jesus. 

I just requoted got questions, it is not my belief. I think it is really a flawed statement.

This is NOT my post...

Edited April 26, 2021 by Justin Adams

[Waggles]

On 4/22/2021 at 11:22 PM, CaptWalker said:

I was just wondering how many people here have actually spoken in tongues AND prophesied according to Acts 19:6 and 1st Corinthians 14:1-5, and what it meant to you and how important it is for the average Christian to have this experience and what is called the "baptism of the Holy Spirit"?

So as you can read for yourself here @CaptWalker the Christian world is most definitely divided between the cessationists and the Spirit-filled. 

One side denies the continuation and legitimacy of praying in the Spirit (tongues) and the giving of the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit directly to the body of Christ. 

So it is really now up to you to seek for yourself the truth of Mark 16 and the book of Acts -

Luke 11:9 And I tell you, Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 11 What father among you, if his son asks for a fish, will instead of a fish give him a serpent; 12 or if he asks for an egg, will give him a scorpion? 13 If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

https://trffresno.org/ 

[Justin Adams]

44 minutes ago, Waggles said:

One side denies the continuation and legitimacy of praying in the Spirit (tongues) and the giving of the nine gifts of the Holy Spirit directly to the body of Christ. 

Matt 12:32

31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be 
forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the one to come. 

Edited April 26, 2021 by Justin Adams

[Billiards Ball]

On 4/23/2021 at 2:06 PM, missmuffet said:

We do not differ in very many areas of Christianity but this is where we do not agree.

I am a cessationist. They believe that tongues and healing by christians today have ceased. God does perform miracles today. The Holy Spirit no longer uses christians to perform miraculous signs. Why do we need prophets today if we have the complete revelation from God in the Bible?

How do you feel about Ephesians 4, that prophets help the church until . . . the church, not the scriptures, are complete, full, utterly accomplished.

So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ [at the Rapture/Return].

I'm a fundamentalist, but not a cessationist.

[Heleadethme]

On 4/24/2021 at 2:24 PM, Justin Adams said:

It is really sad to hear that some believe in the cessation of spiritual gifts and manifestations. People are missing so much if they take that view and if they teach it to others, that is a real shame...

"Cessationism versus continuationism involves a Christian theological dispute as to whether spiritual gifts remain available to the church, or whether their operation ceased with the Apostolic Age of the church. The cessationist doctrine arose in the Protestant Reformation, initially in response to claims of Roman Catholic miracles."

The devil has done and is still doing a very good job of discrediting miracles...and many still believe him today unfortunately.