Same Sex Marriage

[Alive]

On 4/30/2021 at 12:36 PM, JohnR7 said:

It it any more wrong then hetrosexual sex outside of marriage?  I think I need a better understanding of God's plan for marriage. 

How do you know that they engage sexually?

[Leonardo Von]

8 hours ago, Josheb said:

Please stop defining Jesus and humans with single verses removed from their contexts. 

I never will abandon Jesus and the Holy Scripture. After all, the Creator was clear:

•    “Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.” (Psa 91:14) 

The Holy Scripture is my shield and my buckler (Psa 91:4).  Therefore,  my tongue shall speak of His word, even knowing that this will stir up hatred in many people. After all, all His commandments are righteousness (Psa 191:172)

Even before death, I prefer die than deny Christ.
 

[Leonardo Von]

8 hours ago, Josheb said:

Neither did I say he ceased to be love. The fact remains the earlier statement, "Jesus always spoke the truth in love is simply not true."

If "Jesus always spoke the truth in love is simply not true.", therefore there are moments that He acts without love (and this isn't truth).

[Alive]

There have been a number of off-topic personal attacks in this thread.

[Alive]

@Coop--please don't read much into what I posted. Sin is sin and all of us need Grace, I only meant that an assumption was being made on a particular sin.

From a scriptural perspective, at the very least, this couple is confused.

Getting to know them, would make for a more specific conversation---or not.

THe Holy Spirit is quite capable of doing His work---only God knows.

[Willa]

In God's eyes there are two kinds of people:  those who are in satan and those who are in Christ.

Those who are in satan are blind, wretched and to be pitied.

Those who are in Christ are set free to love those who are blind, wretched and pitied.  God had pity on us when were were in satan and redeemed us, rescued us.  Thank you for the cross, Jesus!  

We pray for the blind, that God would open their eyes and ears.  We love them because there but for the grace of God go I.  

[Waggles]

2Cor 4:3  And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. 
4:4  In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. 
4:5  For what we proclaim is not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, with ourselves as your servants for Jesus' sake. 
4:6  For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 

[JohnR7]

15 hours ago, Alive said:

How do you know that they engage sexually?

She told me they did. That is a part of the reason that my wife wants to stay away from them and not talk to them. 

[appy]

Bible thumping them with verses about homosexuality being a sin, won't win them over. We cannot simply tell unbelievers they are sinners and are going to hell and then withhold the good news from them.

Tell them about the Savior who saves sinners! They need to see and hear that there is something better in store for them. And that something is a person.... Jesus Christ. The message they need to hear is the “good news” that redemption is available, that they can be washed, and justified, and sanctified in the name of Jesus.

Don't focus on them repenting from homosexuality, because their bigger problem is unbelief in the savior who saves them from sin.

Simply hand them an NIV bible which is easier to read and comprehend in the beginning of their journey. You don't want to make bible reading a drudgery, and having them scratching their heads trying to comprehend words and language that is not spoken in today's world. They can always pick up a copy of other widely accepted versions as they grow in the Lord.

Suggest that they begin with the book of John, and then Acts, followed by the book of Romans. And then read the other 3 gospels. The Holy Spirit will bring conviction as they read, be ready to answer any questions they have.

Our job isn't to bring conviction concerning their behavior, but to share the gospel message.

 

[Justin Adams]

1 hour ago, appy said:

Our job isn't to bring conviction concerning their behavior, but to share the gospel message.

Exactly correct. It is the Spirit that brings conviction. We are mere conduits.