The travailing woman who brings forth in Micah 4, 5 and Revelation 12

[luigi]

If the annexation of Palestinian homes in Jerusalem now is what is described in Micah 2:2, then the travailing woman in Micah 4 & 5; and Revelation 12 cannot be much further away.

Micah 2:2 And they covet fields, and take them by violence; and houses, and take them away: so they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage.

[R. Hartono]

God gave the land to Israel as He promised Abraham.

Edited May 18, 2021 by R. Hartono

[Guest]

Israel is not oppressing the "Palestinians."

Edited May 18, 2021 by Rick_Parker

[other one]

1 hour ago, Rick_Parker said:

Israel is oppressing the "Palestinians."

No they aren't. They aIsrael.  Also remember that there never has been a state or country of Palistine trying to live in peace and not have people like them.  Actually they help them where they can. And remember that God gave Israel a whole lot more than the little state of Israel.  And Israel did not tell the people there to leave.  Islam did. And until they want to live peacefully they won't be back.  At this point in time, knowing what I do about Islam, I don't see them ever being allowed back into the state of Israel.

[luigi]

2 hours ago, Rick_Parker said:

Israel is oppressing the "Palestinians."

Yes, they are deliberately coveting their neighbors property. 

[WilliamL]

2 hours ago, luigi said:

Yes, they are deliberately coveting their neighbors property. 

The Palestinians certainly are. If the power structure was reversed, it wouldn't be long before there was not a single Jew in the land. The Jews have been remarkably tolerant. Not entirely due to their own benevolence, however: world opinion and action would crucify them if they ever did to the Palestinians what the Palestinians want to do to them.

But now ethnos is rising against ethnos (i. e., the seas are building), and Jewish restraint is being sorely tested by the raging of souls' blood. Lev. 17:11

[luigi]

Micah 2:1-2 is about the people in power who are coveting the property of others. To spin this otherwise, is to be the devils advocate.

Micah 2:1 Woe to them that devise iniquity, and work evil upon their beds! when the morning is light, they practise it, because it is in the power of their hand. 2 And they covet fields, and take them by violence; and houses, and take them away: so they oppress a man and his house, even a man and his heritage.

[Dennis1209]

It seems to me Micah 2:2 is talking about the wealthy and affluent over the poor, not a nation, kingdom or government oppressing the people. 

The Lord gave Jacob [Israel] that land as a possession forever as His portion, and not just that tiny sliver they occupy today. Ishmael / Esau received their own inheritance. Why do the Palestinians claim it is their land? The Palestinians are of Arab descent, why is it their Arab neighbors won't take them in? Look at all the surrounding Arab land they could migrate to. 

God blessed the descendants of Esau [Arabs] with their own land, number of people, wealth and oil. 

[luigi]

41 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

It seems to me Micah 2:2 is talking about the wealthy and affluent over the poor, not a nation, kingdom or government oppressing the people. 

The Lord gave Jacob [Israel] that land as a possession forever as His portion, and not just that tiny sliver they occupy today. Ishmael / Esau received their own inheritance. Why do the Palestinians claim it is their land? The Palestinians are of Arab descent, why is it their Arab neighbors won't take them in? Look at all the surrounding Arab land they could migrate to. 

God blessed the descendants of Esau [Arabs] with their own land, number of people, wealth and oil. 

Hi Dennis1209,

Look at the scriptures in Micah 2:7 & 8, it is about those in power who covet their neighbors property in Micah 2:1-2. I believe this is what will eventually lead up to the future siege of Jerusalem compassed by numerous armies described in the Olivet discourse.

Micah 2:7 O thou that art named the house of Jacob, is the spirit of the Lord straitened? are these his doings? do not my words do good to him that walketh uprightly? 8 Even of late my people is risen up as an enemy: ye pull off the robe with the garment from them that pass by securely as men averse from war.

Luke 21:20  And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

[luigi]

By the way, for those here who want to claim Jerusalem compassed with armies in Luke 21:20 as the Roman destruction in the first century; Luke 21:22 describes these armies as the days of vengeance. The definition of vengeance is: "punishment inflicted or retribution exacted for an injury or wrong:". So the question is: What significant injury or wrong from the Jews did the Romans experience? The Jews were rebellious against the Roman empire, but they did nothing that could be considered doing the Romans unjust injury or wrong.

Luke 21:22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.