Defense of the Pre Trib Rapture

[ChristB4us]

36 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

Where do you get that from?  Not in the passage you quoted.

I have no doubt that all unfaithful and disobedient believers will not survive the trib.  And many faithful believers also will not survive.  We are not to worry about this.

Be ready "or else".  Or else...what?  Please specify.

Being cast into the bed of the great tribulation for not departing from iniquity?  Does that not testify to those that do repent, will not be cast into the bed of the great tribulation in Revelation 2:18-25 thus alluding to the pre great tribulation rapture?

We are in the tribulation now as Jesus said in John 16:33 below;

John 16:33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

Keeping the faith is the good fight in these latter days where faith is hard to find as we are to pray that He will keep us from the snares of the cares of this life not to be taken unaware so we can escape and stand before the Son of man in Heaven.

Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away. 34 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares. 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth. 36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.

When the armies of the world are marching against Jerusalem because they know the King of kings is coming, how is that Jesus Christ coming as a thief in the night?

Jesus Christ warnings are for the believers now to avoid being castaways.

[Montana Marv]

3 hours ago, bloom said:

I wonder what phase of construction the master Carpenter is at right now.

Close.  We are still in the "as in the days of Noah before the Flood";  Environment is ripe and ready now.  When the Father says; it's Time, go fetch your Bride, We're gone. When the Ark was completed, Noah and his family went in.  Then the floods came.  In like manner, when the Church/Bride goes into the Fathers House. Then the 70th Week will begin and all the trials, tests, earthly disturbances, and God's wrath poured out on all humanity.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[FreeGrace]

2 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

Being cast into the bed of the great tribulation for not departing from iniquity?  Does that not testify to those that do repent, will not be cast into the bed of the great tribulation in Revelation 2:18-25 thus alluding to the pre great tribulation rapture?

Nothing "alludes" to a pretrib rapture.  There is no such thing. Or you would have a clear verse that says so.  But you don't. 

2 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

We are in the tribulation now as Jesus said in John 16:33 below

We just may be, since at least 2 of the 4 horsemen (seals) can be argued are in play now.

2 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

Jesus Christ warnings are for the believers now to avoid being castaways.

No believer can become a "castaway", if by that you mean losing salvation.

Read John 10:28.  After reading John 5:24.  Impossible.

[ChristB4us]

40 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

Nothing "alludes" to a pretrib rapture.  There is no such thing. Or you would have a clear verse that says so.  But you don't. 

We just may be, since at least 2 of the 4 horsemen (seals) can be argued are in play now.

No believer can become a "castaway", if by that you mean losing salvation.

Read John 10:28.  After reading John 5:24.  Impossible.

There is no loss of salvation, but a loss of being partakers of the firstfruits of the resurrection to be that vessel unto honor in His House. 

It is akin to the prodigal son giving up his first inheritance for wild living and thus can never get it back, but he is still son.

This is not clear to you yet because you keep seeing & reading your belief into scripture while glossing over scriptures that do not align with your belief or you think it is talking about something else entirely.

Castaway as in excommunicated from the Marriage Supper in Heaven. 

The Bridegroom goes away to prepare a place for His bride and then returns to receive her into the wedding reception.  That cannot occur if you are thinking He is immediately coming back with the saints at the end of the great tribulation after meeting them in the air like that.

Matthew 25:1-13 KJV

Castaway as in excommunicated to be left behind on earth in that bed of the coming great tribulation.

The King of kings is battling the world's armies & then cast Satan in the pit for a thousand years BEFORE He resurrects those saints that get left behind along with new believers that were killed during the great tribulation.

Revelation 2:18-25 KJV

This is why Jesus Christ is coming as the Bridegroom first before the great tribulation for that is when He judges His House at the BEMA Judgment Seat because after the great tribulation, He is coming as the King of kings.

Paul says he could become a castaway;  read how that can happen.

1 Corinthians 9: 24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

So if Paul did not keep under his body in bringing the infirmity in the flesh in subjection to Christ Jesus by His grace & by His help as Paul is to look to Jesus Christ to help him lay aside every weight & sin daily, he risks being a castaway.

So no loss of salvation, but the loss of the eternal glory that comes with our salvation and that is to be that vessel unto honor in His House for departing from iniquity.  All castaways will become vessels unto dishonor in His House for not departing from iniquity.

[The Light]

4 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Close.  We are still in the "as in the days of Noah before the Flood";  Environment is ripe and ready now.  When the Father says; it's Time, go fetch your Bride, We're gone. When the Ark was completed, Noah and his family went in.  Then the floods came.  In like manner, when the Church/Bride goes into the Fathers House. Then the 70th Week will begin and all the trials, tests, earthly disturbances, and God's wrath poured out on all humanity.

In Christ

Montana Marv

The flood comes on the 7th day after Noah enters the ark, just as destruction will come on the 7th year after the Church enters the Fathers house. Then God turns His attention to the 12 tribes.

The very day Lot leaves Sodom destruction came, just as destruction will come the very day the second rapture occurs and the 144,000 are the first fruits of this rapture.

Jacob had two brides, Leah and the chosen bride Rachel. 

[FreeGrace]

3 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

There is no loss of salvation, but a loss of being partakers of the firstfruits of the resurrection to be that vessel unto honor in His House.

You have not proved your claim.  Please provide verses.

3 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

It is akin to the prodigal son giving up his first inheritance for wild living and thus can never get it back, but he is still son.

Please re-read the parable.  Yes, he squandered his inheritance, but it is clear that on his return (repentance and confession of sin) his father gave him the following:

22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet.

23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate.

There are scholars who believe that the "ring" was the father's signet ring.  Are you familiar with what that entails?

 

3 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

This is not clear to you yet because you keep seeing & reading your belief into scripture while glossing over scriptures that do not align with your belief or you think it is talking about something else entirely.

Except you haven't shown me any verse that "does not align with my belief".  In fact, my views and beliefs are straight from Scripture.  

3 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

Castaway as in excommunicated from the Marriage Supper in Heaven. 

And...you have no verses that support your opinion.

3 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

Paul says he could become a castaway;  read how that can happen.

1 Corinthians 9: 24 Know ye not that they which run in a race run all, but one receiveth the prize? So run, that ye may obtain. 25 And every man that striveth for the mastery is temperate in all things. Now they do it to obtain a corruptible crown; but we an incorruptible. 26 I therefore so run, not as uncertainly; so fight I, not as one that beateth the air: 27 But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.

The KJV got it wrong.  The Greek word means "disqualified" and in context, Paul was saying that he didn't want to be disqualified for the prize (eternal reward for faithfulness).

3 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

So if Paul did not keep under his body in bringing the infirmity in the flesh in subjection to Christ Jesus by His grace & by His help as Paul is to look to Jesus Christ to help him lay aside every weight & sin daily, he risks being a castaway.

No, disqualified for the prize, which is eternal reward.

3 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

So no loss of salvation, but the loss of the eternal glory that comes with our salvation and that is to be that vessel unto honor in His House for departing from iniquity.  All castaways will become vessels unto dishonor in His House for not departing from iniquity.

No loss of eternal glory, since ALL believers will be in glory with Jesus and have a glorified body like His.  But there will be lack of reward.

[The Light]

15 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

Explain how those redeemed from the earth from among the living are also called firstfruits?

Back to Hosea 9

10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.

God saw the fathers of the Jews as the first ripe in the fig tree at her first time. That means God saw the fathers of the Jews as the 1st fruits of the 1st harvest. However, since the Jews served other gods, they would not be the first harvest. The Gentiles will be the 1st harvest.

So Christ returns and the dead in Christ rise first. Then after, the alive believers are caught up. The harvest is over.

That brings us to the 144,000. They are called first fruits also, because they are the first fruits of the second harvest. You don't get a harvest with God unless you have acceptable first fruits.

So Christ will return for another harvest. It will occur at the sixth seal and it will be the seed of the woman, the twelve tribes across the earth that is harvested. They that are Christs at His coming will also be raptured. 

The fig tree has two harvests. Jacob had two brides.

15 hours ago, ChristB4us said:

 

Maybe then the Lord will help you to see two events as separate below.

1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.

The order of how every man will be made alive in Christ has to include the dead with the living as firstfruits and then those that are Christ at His coming are made alive after the great tribulation is over with Satan in the pit for a 1000 years.

So you want two events. First fruits and then they that are Christs at His coming. That is correct. And yet there are two harvests. The first harvest is the grain harvest and is the mostly Gentile Church. After the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, part of Israel has it's eyes opened. The seed of the woman, which is the 12 tribes across the earth is second harvest, the fruit harvest.

[The Light]

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Jesus comes to earth only TWICE total.  We call it Advents.  He comes back at the Second Advent.  So Rev 14 has to be the second advent.  

Jesus comes to earth more than twice. We can prove that HERE.

Revelation 14

And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Jesus comes for the 144,000 first fruits of the second harvest.

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

This is a ridiculous statement.  What I believe comes directly from the Bible.  There is just one resurrection, which will be for all believers, and it will occur when the King comes back to earth at the end of the tribulation.

Again as already proven several times. The tribulation is over before the wrath of God begins. This is marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. 

 

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

You can make what you want about the 6th seal.  Actually, the 6th seal, 7th trumpet and 7th bowl ALL describe a terrible earthquake.  Sounds as if the seals and trumpets overlap with the bowls and all come to a point with the world wide earthquake.

The 7th trumpet and the 7th vial are talking about the same earthquake. That has nothing to do with the earthquake at the 6th seal, because the 7th seal has to open before the trumpets can begin.

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

OK, so now I see where all your errors come from;  sloppy reading.  Rev 5 isn't "the Church", but rather EVERY believer that has died up to that point.  Including Adam.

No mention of them anywhere. There is plenty of mention of Churches though. 19 times in the 1st 3 books of Revelation. It is by the blood of Christ that we become kings and priests. Old testament and people before the flood did not have the option to accept or reject Christ as savior. Hence, they are not the dead in Christ.

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

The "great multitude" in heaven includes EVERY saved person from Adam forward who has died.

Nope. The great multitude includes the mostly Gentile Church and the seed of the Woman, Israel. Jacob had two brides, Leah and Rachel. Neither of these brides represent anyone before the flood.

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

 

v.2 proves that there will be a resurrection of the saved and a resurrection of the unsaved.  And that's not the only verse.

Doesn't answer my question. Why are MANY raised and not all raised. And why do we see the righteous raised at the same time as the wicked. 

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

 

Show me ANY verse that links resurrection with harvest.  You can't.  Not even 1 Cor 15:23, because "firstfruits" there only refers to the fact that Jesus is FIRST to receive a resurrection body.

The verses in 1 Corinthians 15 are referring to this event. Looks like a harvest to me.

Revelation 14

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

There are no barley/wheat/fruit harvests in regard to resurrection.

The barley harvest is the dead in Christ.

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

There is just one resurrection of the saved, and that will be at the Second Advent.

The dead in Christ are raised before seals are opened, not at the second advent.

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Referring to the resurrection at the Second Advent.  Just like 1 Thess 4.  What do you think this passage is referring to?

1 Thes 4 is talking about the Church, when it is like the days of Noah. 1 Corinthians 15 is talking about the seed of the woman when it is like the days of Lot. 

The facts are that the dead in Christ are raised first and then the alive believers. That happens in 1 Thes 4. In 1 Corinthians 15 the dead and alive are changed at the same time. Two completely separate events.

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Why do you think you have any right to make judgments about what I want or don't want.  That's arrogance.  I DO believe what is written.  And I've shared them which supports my views.  iow, what I believe is what the Bible SAYS.

Why are you unable to perceive that the tribulation is over before the wrath of God begins. The scriptures have been posted to prove this. And yet you seem to ignore what is clearly written.

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Can you find evidence for a pretrib rapture to heaven?  No.

Sure. I can find evidence. Does that mean you can see? 

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

 Can you find multiple resurrections?  No.

Already posted. Daniel 12 shows MANY are raised. Why not ALL are raised if there is not multiple resurrections?

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

You're really hung up on harvests, even though all of that is just a construct.

The Feast of God clearly lays out the plan. Barley is Passover. Wheat is Pentecost. Fruit is Trumpets. 

 

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

There are NO raptures.  One resurrection, occurring at the end of the trib.  I've shown you the facts (verses).  Why don't YOU believe them?

I've shown you multiple times that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal. The 7th seal is the wrath of God and wrath lasts for one year.

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

Nothing you've quoted supports your claims.

All is supported. 

Immediately after the tribulation Jesus sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. This occurs at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. Then the wrath of God begins. Tribulation and wrath are completely separate events. 

[FreeGrace]

7 hours ago, The Light said:

FreeGrace said: 

Jesus comes to earth only TWICE total.  We call it Advents.  He comes back at the Second Advent.  So Rev 14 has to be the second advent. 

Jesus comes to earth more than twice. We can prove that HERE.

I've shown the verses that prove it.  Let's see your "proof".

7 hours ago, The Light said:

Revelation 14

And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

Jesus comes for the 144,000 first fruits of the second harvest.

First, realizing that Rev 14 is a look ahead vision of John, you have no point.  Second, there is NOTHING in Rev 114 about Jesus coming for them and taking them to heaven.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

 The 7th trumpet and the 7th vial are talking about the same earthquake. That has nothing to do with the earthquake at the 6th seal, because the 7th seal has to open before the trumpets can begin.

We actually don't know WHEN the various wraths begin and end, since the Bible doesn't tell us.  Are you clairvoyant or something?  There may be overlap between the seals, trumpets, and bowls. We just don't know.  Neither do you. 

7 hours ago, The Light said:

Nope. The great multitude includes the mostly Gentile Church and the seed of the Woman, Israel. Jacob had two brides, Leah and Rachel. Neither of these brides represent anyone before the flood

??  Point, please.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

Doesn't answer my question. Why are MANY raised and not all raised.

The Bible doesn't say.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

And why do we see the righteous raised at the same time as the wicked. 

We actually DON'T see that.  It's merely the speculation and presumption of some.

Rev 20:4-6 clears all that up.  The resurrection of all the saved will be at the Second Advent, and 1,000 years later, the resurrection of all the unsaved, to attend the GWT judgment.  

7 hours ago, The Light said:

The verses in 1 Corinthians 15 are referring to this event. Looks like a harvest to me.

You're only seeing what you want to see.  There is no harvest.  No verse links resurrection with a harvest.  The use of "firstfruits" in 1 Cor 15:23 ONLY refers to the FACT that Jesus is the FIRST human to receive a glorified immortal body.  

7 hours ago, The Light said:

Revelation 14

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

The barley harvest is the dead in Christ.

Uh, sorry to have to inform you of this, but, these verses aren't about the "dead in Christ".  Dead, for sure, but NOT "in Christ".  I wonder WHY you left out the next 2 verses, that complete ch 14.  Probably because they clarify what v.14-18 are REALLY about.

19 The angel swung his sickle on the earth, gathered its grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God’s wrath. 

20 They were trampled in the winepress outside the city, and blood flowed out of the press, rising as high as the horses’ bridles for a distance of 1,600 stadia.

So, of course you would leave them out.  They SHOW CLEARLY that all that sickle swinging is to KILL unbelievers.  The verses you erroneously think are about "the dead in Christ" is in FACT about God's WRATH against believers.  And showing that Rev 14 IS a look ahead to the end of the Trib when Jesus kills the rebels.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

The dead in Christ are raised before seals are opened, not at the second advent.

You simply have no idea.  And given your wildly erroneous view of Rev 14, I'm not surprised at your confusion.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

1 Thes 4 is talking about the Church, when it is like the days of Noah. 1 Corinthians 15 is talking about the seed of the woman when it is like the days of Lot.

Both are describing the resurrection of the saved.  That is undeniable.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

The facts are that the dead in Christ are raised first and then the alive believers. That happens in 1 Thes 4. In 1 Corinthians 15 the dead and alive are changed at the same time. Two completely separate events.

Both the same.  1 Thess 4 is one event, where the dead are raised with glorified bodies BEFORE the living are changed.  1 Cor 15 simply emphasizes the resurrection body.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

Why are you unable to perceive that the tribulation is over before the wrath of God begins. The scriptures have been posted to prove this. And yet you seem to ignore what is clearly written.

I don't "perceive" fallacy.  The ENTIRE tribulation is about God's wrath.  Begins with the 4 horsemen in Rev 6 and is completed with the 7 bowl judgments.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

Sure. I can find evidence. Does that mean you can see?

Sure.  Show me evidence.  So far, you have demonstrated a failure of understanding of a number of verses/passages.  

7 hours ago, The Light said:

Already posted. Daniel 12 shows MANY are raised. Why not ALL are raised if there is not multiple resurrections?

The "many" refers to the FACT that not ALL are raised at the same time.  Proven by Revb 20:4-6.  There is a clear 1,000 year space between the TWO resurrections, obviously.  And you can't refute that.  But you can reject the truth.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

The Feast of God clearly lays out the plan. Barley is Passover. Wheat is Pentecost. Fruit is Trumpets.

Fantasy.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

I've shown you multiple times that the tribulation is over at the 6th seal. The 7th seal is the wrath of God and wrath lasts for one year.

No, you've only SAID it multiple times.  You've shown nothing.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

All is supported.

Nothing you have claimed has been supported.

7 hours ago, The Light said:

Immediately after the tribulation Jesus sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. This occurs at the 6th seal as marked by the signs of the sun, moon and stars. Then the wrath of God begins. Tribulation and wrath are completely separate events. 

I think you are just very confused.  YES, all the saved will be "gathered" after the tribulation.  Matt 24 says so, as does 2 Thess 2:1.  That gathering is WHEN the resurrection of all the saved will occur.

[ChristB4us]

13 hours ago, FreeGrace said:

You have not proved your claim.  Please provide verses.

Please re-read the parable.  Yes, he squandered his inheritance, but it is clear that on his return (repentance and confession of sin) his father gave him the following:

22 “But the father said to his servants, ‘Quick! Bring the best robe and put it on him. Put a ring on his finger and sandals on his feet.

23 Bring the fattened calf and kill it. Let’s have a feast and celebrate.

There are scholars who believe that the "ring" was the father's signet ring.  Are you familiar with what that entails?

Except you haven't shown me any verse that "does not align with my belief".  In fact, my views and beliefs are straight from Scripture.  

And...you have no verses that support your opinion.

The KJV got it wrong.  The Greek word means "disqualified" and in context, Paul was saying that he didn't want to be disqualified for the prize (eternal reward for faithfulness).

No, disqualified for the prize, which is eternal reward.

No loss of eternal glory, since ALL believers will be in glory with Jesus and have a glorified body like His.  But there will be lack of reward.

Only Jesus can prove this to you, but if you continue to rely on what you are taught rather than prove it with Him, then He will have to d a miracle.

Note how the father spoke to the elder son in the field in that all that he has was his?  Thus indicating that it is not the same for the prodigal son since he squandered his first inheritance but the elder son did not.

And yes, the prodigal son will get a ring and a robe, and this is something else the Lord has to show you because after each warning or exhortation to the 7 churches in Revelation, when it s written "he who overcometh" that is the reward for those that did not repent or hold fast as Jesus is the One that overcomes by how they get that reward.

Note the reward given to the first church in Revelation and ask yourself what need does the firstfruit have for eating from the tree of life?

Luke 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage: 35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage: 36 Neither can they die any more: for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, being the children of the resurrection.

Revelation 2:1Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks; 2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: 3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted. 4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love. 5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. 6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate. 7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

So the firstfruits would have no need for eating from the tree of life but those resurrected after the great tribulation will need it as only the power of the second death will not be over them, thus indicating the power of the first death will as they will marry and raise up the coming generations that will need the tree of life also.

That explains the vessels unto dishonor as vessels of wood and earth that did not depart from iniquity for why they get left behind as opposed to the vessels unto honor, vessels of gold and silver that lives for ever and never marry.

2 Timothy 2:18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour. 21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

So may every former believer and unrepentant saints living in sin go to Jesus for help and the truth so that they too may lean on Him to depart from iniquity & be ready to go for when the Bridegroom comes or else risk becoming castaways.

And as for your slight about castaways being wrong in the KJV, try ignoring Jesus's words here for not being ready as found abiding in Him by His grace & by His help.

Luke 12:40 Be ye therefore ready also: for the Son of man cometh at an hour when ye think not. 41 Then Peter said unto him, Lord, speakest thou this parable unto us, or even to all? 42 And the Lord said, Who then is that faithful and wise steward, whom his lord shall make ruler over his household, to give them their portion of meat in due season? 43 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing. 44 Of a truth I say unto you, that he will make him ruler over all that he hath. 45 But and if that servant say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming; and shall begin to beat the menservants and maidens, and to eat and drink, and to be drunken;

46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes. 48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more. 49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled?

What do you call that being cut off?  A castaway.  Again below as this warning is real for any disciple that stops abiding in Him.

John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

The warning to the church at Thyatira in Revelation 2:18-25

Revelation 2:21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. 22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. 23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

So your translation of 1 Corinthians 9:27 as not being a castaway is wrong.