Conversation with those who believe Christ has NOT returned (2nd Advent) and will NOT be coming pre trib (rapture)

[Selah7]

Revelation 13:1-3

The Beast from the Sea

13 Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. 2 Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast.

Edited June 28, 2021 by Selah7

[Justin Adams]

On 6/28/2021 at 1:39 AM, R. Hartono said:

Your Millennium is not Christ's

Against the TOS and an implication of heresy. Be very, very careful please.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 6/25/2021 at 6:42 PM, DeighAnn said:

Do you think all the people in Jerusalem today are of the tribe of Judah and want to go back to animal sacrifice?   

80% of the people in Jerusalem who call themselves Jews are not Jews at all,
but are descendants of the Ashkenaz who converted to Judaism in the past.
Some of them descend from Esau. Very few of the mainstream 'Jews' actually
descend from Jacob.
The majority of those who actually do descend from Jacob are unaware of it.
And many are not in Israel, but are scattered all over the world.
The so-called 'Palestinians' the so-called 'Uighurs' and others.

40% of the 80% know of their past, and in truth worship the devil,
aiming to install the anti-Christ and do sacrifices to the devil.
The synagogue of Satan just as the Messiah said. Rev 2:9, 3:9.
The sacrifices established will not be sincerely to God,
but will be satanic sacrifices in disguise.

On 6/25/2021 at 6:42 PM, DeighAnn said:

Do you have an 'out line' of sorts you believe to be the coming order of events?  It would be nice to see it.

 

Prosperity

Supposed comets/asteroids

Economic collapse

War

Most likely a world war against Islam.
During the war beast #1 gets seemingly wounded to death then healed.
Healed by supposed beings that come down from 'outer-space'.
The world marvels and wonders at his seeming healing.

Other seeming 'aliens' come who are labeled as 'bad' 'aliens'
but in reality they are the beings from Revelation 9, controlled by beast #1.

Beast #1 announces that 'Jesus' will arrive soon.
Then 'Jesus' arrives and gives glory to beast number 1.

Then a cleverly disguised modern inquisition gets underway.

 

[Riverwalker]

27 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

80% of the people in Jerusalem who call themselves Jews are not Jews at all,
but are descendants of the Ashkenaz who converted to Judaism in the past.
Some of them descend from Esau. Very few of the mainstream 'Jews' actually
descend from Jacob.
The majority of those who actually do descend from Jacob are unaware of it.
And many are not in Israel, but are scattered all over the world.
The so-called 'Palestinians' the so-called 'Uighurs' and others.

40% of the 80% know of their past, and in truth worship the devil,
aiming to install the anti-Christ and do sacrifices to the devil.
The synagogue of Satan just as the Messiah said. Rev 2:9, 3:9.
The sacrifices established will not be sincerely to God,
but will be satanic sacrifices in disguise.

 

 

I would really like to see a source on this

[Desopixi Seilynam]

1 minute ago, Riverwalker said:

I would really like to see a source on this

Search for 'Ashkenazi Jews' in youtube and you'll find many various videos on the subject, most trying to insist that Ashkenazi 'Jews' are not Khazars, (but they are)
still most will admit that 80% of people who call themselves Jews, in Israel,
descend from the Ashkenazi.

Obadiah prophesied that they will be betrayed by those they think are on their side.
Obadiah 1:7

And the Ashekenazi are mentioned in Jeremiah as getting revenge on Babylon.
Jeremiah 51:27

Zechariah declares that Israel would 'subdue and devour with sling stones'
Zechariah 9:15.
In Israel today it is the so-called Jews that have soldiers guns and tanks,
and it is the so-called Palestinians that throw stones at the tanks and soldiers.

[Alive]

3 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Search for 'Ashkenazi Jews' in youtube and you'll find many various videos on the subject, most trying to insist that Ashkenazi 'Jews' are not Khazars, (but they are)
still most will admit that 80% of people who call themselves Jews, in Israel,
descend from the Ashkenazi.

Obadiah prophesied that they will be betrayed by those they think are on their side.
Obadiah 1:7

And the Ashekenazi are mentioned in Jeremiah as getting revenge on Babylon.
Jeremiah 51:27

Zechariah declares that Israel would 'subdue and devour with sling stones'
Zechariah 9:15.
In Israel today it is the so-called Jews that have soldiers guns and tanks,
and it is the so-called Palestinians that throw stones at the tanks and soldiers.

Are you saying that the Palestinians are the true Jews?

[Riverwalker]

5 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Search for 'Ashkenazi Jews' in youtube and you'll find many various videos on the subject, most trying to insist that Ashkenazi 'Jews' are not Khazars, (but they are)
still most will admit that 80% of people who call themselves Jews, in Israel,
descend from the Ashkenazi.

No offense  but I was hoping for something a little more substantive than a you tube video. Anyone can post those

[Desopixi Seilynam]

Just now, Riverwalker said:

No offense  but I was hoping for something a little more substantive than a you tube video. Anyone can post those

"Search for 'Ashkenazi Jews' in youtube and you'll find many various videos on the subject..."

Also:

The book of Obadiah, notable verses being 6-7, 11,14-15, and 21.

Revelation 2:9, 3:9.

Jeremiah 51:27 mentions the Ashekenazi, which makes clear they are not Jews,
none of the videos will deny that the modern 'Jews' are Ashkenazi.

Deuteronomy 28:43-44, 64 together with Zechariah 9:15
and a look at the state of modern Israel, makes clear who is who and what is what.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

9 minutes ago, Alive said:

Are you saying that the Palestinians are the true Jews?

Not all of the so-called Jews are false,
and not all of the so-called Palestinians are true. 

The nation of Israel is under the prophesied curse.

The stranger that dwells among them has gotten up very high above them,
the strangers do the lending and the Jews do not. Deuteronomy 28:43-44.

So if we look at who lends to who in Israel, then yes the so-called Palestinians are the ones borrowing, and the so-called Jews are the ones doing the lending.

Much of the misguided notions of prophecy come from the misguided notion that 1948 was some great return to Israel of the Jews, and it was not. Strangers invaded
and started a military occupation of the land that continues to this day.

[Alive]

30 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Not all of the so-called Jews are false,
and not all of the so-called Palestinians are true. 

The nation of Israel is under the prophesied curse.

The stranger that dwells among them has gotten up very high above them,
the strangers do the lending and the Jews do not. Deuteronomy 28:43-44.

So if we look at who lends to who in Israel, then yes the so-called Palestinians are the ones borrowing, and the so-called Jews are the ones doing the lending.

Much of the misguided notions of prophecy come from the misguided notion that 1948 was some great return to Israel of the Jews, and it was not. Strangers invaded
and started a military occupation of the land that continues to this day.

This is easy to say, but such claims demand some pathway of evidence.