Insult To Injury

[Walter and Deborah]

Sunday 11-28-21 Kislev 22, 5782 1st. day of the weekly cycle, 68th. Fall Day

Job 5:17-27

¹⁷ Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty:

¹⁸ For he maketh sore, and bindeth up: he woundeth, and his hands make whole.

¹⁹ He shall deliver thee in six troubles: yea, in seven there shall no evil touch thee.

²⁰ In famine he shall redeem thee from death: and in war from the power of the sword.

²¹ Thou shalt be hid from the scourge of the tongue: neither shalt thou be afraid of destruction when it cometh.

²² At destruction and famine thou shalt laugh: neither shalt thou be afraid of the beasts of the earth.

²³ For thou shalt be in league with the stones of the field: and the beasts of the field shall be at peace with thee.

²⁴ And thou shalt know that thy tabernacle shall be in peace; and thou shalt visit thy habitation, and shalt not sin.

²⁵ Thou shalt know also that thy seed shall be great, and thine offspring as the grass of the earth.

²⁶ Thou shalt come to thy grave in a full age, like as a shock of corn cometh in in his season.

²⁷ Lo this, we have searched it, so it is; hear it, and know thou it for thy good.

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LOL, Walter and Debbie

 

 

 

 

[Mama Etna]

Amen.  The Lord has protected me all of my days, even in hard times.

[missmuffet]

Job’s story is famous for its treatment of the universal themes of personal suffering, enduring hope, and God’s sovereignty. Job suffered tremendously and endured his trials with patience. However, while he was going through his darkest days, three of his friends arrived to “comfort him” (Job 2:11). They turned out to be “miserable comforters,” in Job’s estimation (Job 16:2).

Job’s would-be comforters offered all sorts of possibilities for why Job was going through such misery, but, adding insult to injury, they focused on the theory that Job must have unconfessed sin in his life and that God was punishing him (Job 11:14–15; 22:4–7). Knowing his conscience was clear, Job grew weary of their accusations and blurted out, “I have heard many things like these; you are miserable comforters, all of you” (Job 16:2).

The words of Job’s three friends highlight the tendency in all of us to rush to conclusions. Their theology reflected serious errors, as they insisted that the only reason Job would experience such catastrophes is if he had done wrong (Job 4:7–8; 22:5). Unfortunately, that same idea has crept into Christianity under the umbrella of the prosperity gospel and the Word of Faith movement. Job’s “miserable comforters” are echoed in the modern teaching that God rewards the righteous if they believe hard enough, but those with weaker faith or secret sin will reap calamities. The conclusion of such thinking is that, if someone suffers a string of disasters, contracts a terminal illness, or has a crippling disease, he or she must not be doing something right.

The Bible does say that we reap what we sow (Galatians 6:8; James 3:18) and that God blesses the righteous (Psalm 5:12; 32:10). But the blessing given to the righteous does not always (or usually) take material form. If it did, we would have no way to explain the anguish and deprivation suffered by the apostles, martyrs, or faithful Christians around the world (Hebrews 11:35–40). God’s blessing on the righteous is often spiritual, as we are seated “in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus” (Ephesians 2:6). By the same token, adversity and calamity in this world are not always a sign of God’s displeasure. To equate disaster with God’s curse is to behave like Job’s “miserable comforters.”

Instead of following the example of Job’s friends, we can truly comfort those who are suffering by assuring them that God knows what they are going through and He cares about them (Psalm 34:18). We can remind them that, as painful as their situation is, God promises to use it for good in their lives if they love Him and trust Him with it (Romans 8:28). Trying to assign blame during a time of loss can turn us into “miserable comforters.” Sometimes the greatest comfort we can give a hurting friend is our quiet presence. Sometimes, as Job’s friends should have learned, the best thing to say is nothing at all.

https://www.gotquestions.org/miserable-comforters.html

Edited November 28, 2021 by missmuffet

[Sower]

11 hours ago, Walter and Deborah said:

Behold, happy is the man whom God correcteth: therefore despise not thou the chastening of the Almighty

God is faithful.

I think it's sad that we as Christians in the army of God, see a fellow soldier in the Lord, stumble and fall, wounded, as an opportunity to point the finger at him, judge him, instead of lifting him up and caring for him as he was wounded on the battlefield  against a great evil enemy.

Thank God for his great Mercy, and compassion....

[MrBear]

He indeed was with me way before I found him!

I look back at all the times I should have been taken from this earth and I see he protected me

i came inches from a telephone pole drunken driving, Had guns pulled in my face when I was with bikers and in situations I shouldn’t have walked away from

He was always there for me even when I refused to listen, I have reaped some bad I sowed but it goes both ways

you can reap blessings if you sow them and my goal is to sow good because I’m promised to reap what I sow, we can all do that even a small handout to homeless person or helping an elderly neighbor 

Bur God is present and watches our Deeds and judges accordingly 

SHALOM❤️
 

[Willa]

When people are grieving deeply no matter what we say it will be wrong because anger is a part of that grief so they lash out.  Often it is the person in pain who falsely accuses, just as Job falsely accused God. It was correct to say that saying nothing can be best.  And when our 3 friends falsely accuse us, don't forget to pray for them with compassion.  

[MrBear]

Heard a pastor say be careful what you quote from the Bible, it might be a lie

im veering off just for a second 

The book of Job shows us that we need to mind what we quote because if you quote from what any of Jobs friends said you might be quoting a lie

JOB 42:7

After the LORD had said these things to Job, he said to Eliphaz the Temanite, “I am angry with you and your two friends, because you have not spoken the truth about me, as my servant Job has.

The book also reveals how powerless satan is Against God because God sets the terms for the deal..tells Satan what he cannot do

Job1:12

Very well,” said the LORD to Satan. “Everything he has is in your hands, but you must not lay a hand on the man himself.”

Also shows satan is not omnipresent he can only be one place at one time

Job 1:7

 

7“Where have you come from?” said the LORD to Satan. 

“From roaming through the earth,” he replied, “and walking back and forth in it

if satan was omnipresent God wouldn’t ask this

Job did indeed get a good tongue lashing from God after all that talking ( I think he was trying to get Gods attention because he felt cut off from God, the worst feeling for any believer… Well he got the attention ? but regretted it)

We learn how cruel even the closest of people can be…. His own wife told him just curse God and DIE .. that must have hurt a lot more than his friends remarks ?

We learn forgiveness, Job repented and was still forgiven by God

We learn what some might not realize, Job was a priest and once again we are shown that the Law existed before Moses

Job 42:8-9

 

8So now, take seven bulls and seven rams, go to My servant Job, and sacrifice a burnt offering for yourselves. Then My servant Job will pray for you, for I will accept his prayer and not deal with you according to your folly. For you have not spoken accurately about Me, as My servant Job has.”

9So Eliphaz the Temanite, Bildad the Shuhite, and Zophar the Naamathite went and did as the LORD had told them; and the LORD accepted Job’s request.

How would they know the sacrifice of the Burnt offerings if they didn’t know the Law and only a priest can perform the offering ( Job) 

This book is fascinating and revealing isn’t it

sorry I didn’t mean to derail.. I never know where the spirit will lead me I’m just along for the ride ?

But I agree that sometimes just being there without saying a word, just showing that you are with them is stronger than words?

SHALOM❤️

Edited November 29, 2021 by MrBear

[Justin Adams]

Job is fascinating and later scholarship dates it much later than the wrongly held belief it is far earlier than many other books.

 

Edited November 29, 2021 by Justin Adams

[Your closest friendnt]

@MrBear

Genesis 18:20

20 And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

Genesis 18:21 

21. I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know. 

 

[MrBear]

2 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

@MrBear

Genesis 18:20

20 And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

Genesis 18:21 

21. I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know. 

 

Well said I’m still convinced that is why Abram didn’t take anything from the king of Sodom he knew the wickedness in the kings heart and didn’t want to be subject of the king ever wanted something back in return 

SHALOM❤️

Edited November 29, 2021 by MrBear