Russia Preparing for War.

[Dennis1209]

On 2/3/2022 at 8:03 PM, angels4u said:

Interesting conversation, it's a good question to ask when the destructuction of Damaskus might happen,I found this article by Dr Daniel Woodhead and like you and Marilyn  to read it,let me know what you think?http://doctorwoodhead.com/damascus-became-a-ruinous-heap/

Hi angels!

I read the article, and the author has the facts and history correct, no debate there. I'd like to clarify that article maybe correct, that the prophecies were dual and fulfilled. A number of biblical prophecies have dual or more fulfillments in different ages. I have no controversy with that article other than, I think another judgment is coming.

Jeremiah 49:27 And I will kindle a fire in the wall of Damascus, and it shall consume the palaces of Ben-hadad. Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. Isaiah 17:14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.

To my knowledge, both times Damascus was destroyed, it was not completely destroyed. I can find nothing in history that implies or mentions the entire city was destroyed in one night?

That's one reason I suspect a final fulfillment is forth coming again.

 

[angels4u]

1 minute ago, Dennis1209 said:

Hi angels!

I read the article, and the author has the facts and history correct, no debate there. I'd like to clarify that article maybe correct, that the prophecies were dual and fulfilled. A number of biblical prophecies have dual or more fulfillments in different ages. I have no controversy with that article other than, I think another judgment is coming.

Jeremiah 49:27 And I will kindle a fire in the wall of Damascus, and it shall consume the palaces of Ben-hadad. Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. Isaiah 17:14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.

To my knowledge, both times Damascus was destroyed, it was not completely destroyed. I can find nothing in history that implies or mentions the entire city was destroyed in one night?

That's one reason I suspect a final fulfillment is forth coming again.

 

Thanks Dennis,

That’s why I believe it’s prophecy but when I have no clue,can you find that somewhere in the Bible,I think it can happen at any time?

(You said : That's one reason I suspect a final fulfillment is forth coming again.)

[Dennis1209]

12 minutes ago, angels4u said:

Thanks Dennis,

That’s why I believe it’s prophecy but when I have no clue,can you find that somewhere in the Bible,I think it can happen at any time?

(You said : That's one reason I suspect a final fulfillment is forth coming again.)

I go into a lot of detail on that subject in my book also. Damascus, Syria is the oldest continuously occupied city on earth. It has never been abandoned, people still lived there during and after the two destructions. It has never been a complete ruinous heap from my studies, it was repaired and rebuilt twice in history.

[truth7t7]

2 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

I have no controversy with that article other than, I think another judgment is coming.

Jeremiah 49:27 And I will kindle a fire in the wall of Damascus, and it shall consume the palaces of Ben-hadad. Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. Isaiah 17:14 And behold at eveningtide trouble; and before the morning he is not. This is the portion of them that spoil us, and the lot of them that rob us.

To my knowledge, both times Damascus was destroyed, it was not completely destroyed. I can find nothing in history that implies or mentions the entire city was destroyed in one night?

That's one reason I suspect a final fulfillment is forth coming again.

 

The claim of another judgement being seen in Jeremiah 49:27 is unfounded, this event took place during the reign of King Nebuchadrezzar long ago

Jeremiah 49:27-30KJV

27 And I will kindle a fire in the wall of Damascus, and it shall consume the palaces of Benhadad.

29 Concerning Kedar, and concerning the kingdoms of Hazor, which Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon shall smite, thus saith the Lord; Arise ye, go up to Kedar, and spoil the men of the east.

29 Their tents and their flocks shall they take away: they shall take to themselves their curtains, and all their vessels, and their camels; and they shall cry unto them, Fear is on every side.

30 Flee, get you far off, dwell deep, O ye inhabitants of Hazor, saith the Lord; for Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon hath taken counsel against you, and hath conceived a purpose against you.

Edited February 5, 2022 by truth7t7

[Diaste]

19 hours ago, other one said:

The news stories I watched was training for citizens that had the wooden guns. They seem to be going the Swiss way in arming the entire population. It's not good to give a lot of people guns without safety training.

The Founders seemed to think it was a good idea. But you're right, it's probably training. 

 

 

[Diaste]

8 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Ezekiel 39:9-10 clearly teaches the battle seen below is "Historical" with wooden weapons , Shields, Bows, Arrows, Spears, these weapons were burnt in the fires of Israel long ago

Ezekiel 39:9-10KJV

9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord God.

I have heard reports from WWII that fighting came down to hand to hand. The soldiers ran out of bullets on both sides. The firearms become clubs if there is no ammo and are useless otherwise. It would be better to have a shield and a stave or a spear if there is no ammo. 

It's not like the movies where a tank or a .50 cal can fire forever. They can't and they don't. And there are many many more people than there are firearms and bullets. It's a not a stretch that a vast army as described in Ezekiel would be armed with close combat weaponry. 

And if you could post some historical evidence that Israel burned war weapons for 7 years, taking no wood from the forest nor cutting down trees during that time, that would be interesting.

[other one]

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

The Founders seemed to think it was a good idea. But you're right, it's probably training. 

I think people already had guns when the founders put this all together.   They were just smart enough to push to have us keep them.

 

[truth7t7]

3 hours ago, Diaste said:

It's a not a stretch that a vast army as described in Ezekiel would be armed with close combat weaponry. 

And if you could post some historical evidence that Israel burned war weapons for 7 years, taking no wood from the forest nor cutting down trees during that time, that would be interesting.

In today's modern warfare the claim that wooden, Shields, Bows, Arrows, Spears, would be used in battle today?

That claim would make santa claus and the tooth fairy blush 

In Love, Jesus Is The Lord

Edited February 5, 2022 by truth7t7

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, other one said:

I think people already had guns when the founders put this all together.   They were just smart enough to push to have us keep them.

 

Love that 2nd amendment, that defends the 1st

Red, White, and Blue, long may it wave, land of the free, home of the brave!

God, Family, Country!

Jesus Is The Lord

Edited February 5, 2022 by truth7t7

[angels4u]

10 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

I go into a lot of detail on that subject in my book also. Damascus, Syria is the oldest continuously occupied city on earth. It has never been abandoned, people still lived there during and after the two destructions. It has never been a complete ruinous heap from my studies, it was repaired and rebuilt twice in history.

Interesting,isn't it? I feel awful for all the people who will be involved in this war,Damaskus is a big city,I wonder if there are many Christians in that city.