The flood when?

[other one]

22 hours ago, luigi said:

We are all aware of the flood in the book of Genesis that supposedly occurred many millennia back; but according to the book of Enoch this global flood is due to occur in the future. 

Keep in mind that the Book of 1Enoch was written before the flood.    At least the knowledge within the book came from before the flood.

[luigi]

Just now, other one said:

Keep in mind that the Book of 1Enoch was written before the flood.    At least the knowledge within the book came from before the flood.

Quite right other one,

The book of Enoch, supposedly from the Enoch seven generations from Adam was shown these things before the flood in Genesis with Noah. But the flood in Enoch LIV:7 is supposed to occur during the end times, as the whole book primarily pertains to the final distant generation who experience great tribulation.

Enoch 1:1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked and godless are to be removed. 2. And he took up this parable and said--Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God, saw the vision of the Holy One in the heavens, which the angels showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood as I saw, but not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come.

 

[OneLight]

2 hours ago, luigi said:

Quite right other one,

The book of Enoch, supposedly from the Enoch seven generations from Adam was shown these things before the flood in Genesis with Noah. But the flood in Enoch LIV:7 is supposed to occur during the end times, as the whole book primarily pertains to the final distant generation who experience great tribulation.

Enoch 1:1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked and godless are to be removed. 2. And he took up this parable and said--Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God, saw the vision of the Holy One in the heavens, which the angels showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood as I saw, but not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come.

 

Let me see if I have this right.  Because you believe Enoch is scriptural, you hold what is written in that book above the word of God?  God promised never again to cause such a flood, yet you continue to push that it will happen again.  Please explain why you believe God a liar and Enoch the only truth spoken about this future flood.

Genesis 9:11

Thus I establish My covenant with you: Never again shall all flesh be cut off by the waters of the flood; never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth.

[luigi]

I do believe the book of Enoch to be the Word of God, as Enoch is mentioned in Genesis, Luke, and Hebrews, and is quoted by both Peter and Jude.

5 hours ago, other one said:

 

 

 

Edited February 21, 2022 by luigi

[The_Patriot21]

Which is why one should never take the book of enoch as scripture. Its heretical in nature and blatantly contradicts scripture at multiple points.

Sure it makes for an interesting read, perhaps like that of a commentary, but it is far from being inspired.

Enoch was indeed a real person...but theres zero evidence he wrote this book...and little to no evidence this is the book referred to in the NT. The book of enoch we have today is definitely NOT scripture.

[other one]

6 hours ago, luigi said:

Quite right other one,

The book of Enoch, supposedly from the Enoch seven generations from Adam was shown these things before the flood in Genesis with Noah. But the flood in Enoch LIV:7 is supposed to occur during the end times, as the whole book primarily pertains to the final distant generation who experience great tribulation.

Enoch 1:1 The words of the blessing of Enoch, wherewith he blessed the elect righteous, who will be living in the day of tribulation, when all the wicked and godless are to be removed. 2. And he took up this parable and said--Enoch a righteous man, whose eyes were opened by God, saw the vision of the Holy One in the heavens, which the angels showed me, and from them I heard everything, and from them I understood as I saw, but not for this generation, but for a remote one which is for to come.

 

Since God promised to never flood the earth again, that simply can not be.

[other one]

1 hour ago, luigi said:

I do believe the book of Enoch to be the Word of God, as Enoch is mentioned in Genesis, Luke, and Hebrews, and is quoted by both Peter and Jude.

 

 

It actually doesn't qualify to be part of the cannon, but I do believe that what it contains to be true for the most part...

[luigi]

1 hour ago, Katie Müller said:

@luigi So how did the book survive the flood; and if it's inspire word of God, why isn't it in the Bible?

The BOOK of Enoch isn't quoted in the Bible; Enoch, the person, is quoted.

Jude: 1:14 "And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints"

That doesn't mean they were quoting a book.

The stories were handed down through generations. Just like the data in Genesis. 

Jude 1:14 which mentions the Lord coming with ten thousands of His saints appears in the book of Enoch I:9. And since the book of Enoch precedes the book of Jude; the book of Enoch is then part of the bible. 

Additionally, Katie, much of what is written in the book of Enoch appears paraphrased in the book of Revelation. So again, the book of Enoch is in the book of Revelation.

[luigi]

The main reason the book of Enoch is not accepted as the inspired Word of God, is the same reason why the book of Revelation was almost removed from the Canon. Many of the depictions in the book of Enoch are even more surreal than those in the book of Revelation. If, however, you understand what those depictions represent are, then the surreal aspect disappears.

[luigi]

59 minutes ago, other one said:

Since God promised to never flood the earth again, that simply can not be.

Keep in mind, that prior to written language, the stories were passed down through the generations, until they were finally written down. So while you are correct that God did promise to never destroy the earth again by flood; I have to wonder if it is the world of Noah that is completely destroyed by flood, or if it is the world of the generation at the end times described in the book of Enoch that is destroyed by flood.