WHAT TIME DO YOU HAVE?

[angels4u]

4 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Afternoon their angels,

I don't know if will be Putin either? Today, each week that passes, we seem to have a clearer picture unfolding of the biblical narrative.

Putin's known intentions and aggression of reforming the old Soviet Union and actions are now suspicious. The world is giving him lip service instead of anything concrete to discourage his ambitions (as with Iran). Russia's presence in force, with a seaport, troops, advanced weaponry, and airstrips right next door to Israels' northern border, a coincidence? 

I have heard from multiple news sources Putin is different now. Strategists and analysts are seriously questioning his mental facilities. 

My analogy would be a cosmic chess match, Satan vs. the Grand Master, and we all know who wins.

I highly suspect all the end-time players are alive somewhere today. Whether they are in their prophetic roles yet, remains to be seen? As with my suspicions of Pope Francis and Putin, they may only be the precursors of the real McCoy.

As I suspected, the news media is finally getting around to the threat of China's invasion of Taiwan next. China and Russia have basically partnered up in their aggression.

Yes, the historical evidence and documentation Magog is Russia is overwhelming. I don't understand why some claim today's Turkey is Magog? 

 

Hi Dennis,

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I have heard from multiple news sources Putin is different now

I read somewhere that he has cancer, I don't know if  it's true and I  also did read that his personality has  changed..

All the end time play is getting more clear everyday , I do know that the president of the Ukraine and Putin are both connected to the WEF,I feel so terrible sad for the people who have to go through this...

[angels4u]

57 minutes ago, Josheb said:

 

 

I evidenced everything I posted. Not a single word of it is "false" and not a single word of it was shown to be false. Nor can it be. Mr. Walvoord wrote what he wrote, and I have read several of his books, including those to which I linked everyone. I can go through Walvoord's book and cite for anyone interested the places where is content is either questionable or clearly incorrect. I can do the same with Riddlebarger, too. Riddlebarger is not perfect; he's more accurate handling scripture than Walvoord, though. That is why I recommend him. I may not agree with everything either man wrote but if a teacher handling God's word correctly is the goal the Riddlebarger is measurably better at it than Walvoord. 

That's how Riddlebarger reached a different set of conclusions than Walvoord. It's also why the predictions Walvoord made in his books like, "Armageddon, Oil, and the Middle East," did not come true. I benefitted from reading Walvoord's books; much more those not on eschatology because outside of end-times doctrine Walvoord is much better and standing on God's word as written. 

Just as I evidenced what Walvoord wrote, providing everyone with the links so they examine what he wrote to verify what he wrote AND what I posted, the same is true of the scriptures. Everyone and anyone can look up the verses I cited and ee for themselves that what the Bible states is what I posted. Not a single word of either is false. 

 

It was not proven a word I posted is untrue or incorrect. 

Do you believe he was a born again Christian?

 

[Diaste]

13 hours ago, Josheb said:

How do you know that?

What scripture tells us the last days and the ends of the age are not synonymous? 

Scriptures. I don't know that, I listen to the Spirit. I hear the Word. I just repeat what I have heard. 

But if one does the suggested search and compares and contrasts the references, and looks up the words in the Greek, and avails themselves of the definitions of the Greek terms employed and their usage, there is only one conclusion.

The last days began as the Apostles said and the end of the age is not yet.

Jesus isn't here so that's a good starting point for the not yet idea of the end of the age. And we are still in this current age of the last days. So that's another idea. 

In some cases it's just better to encourage a short study than to preach.

 

[Starise]

Can we get one thing clear right now? 

A brother or sister who has a different interpretation of a subject or portion of scripture is not any less a brother or sister. The Lord loves us all equally.

I think we probably need to have a thread on the "non essentials".

Do we break off fellowship with a brother over a minor doctrinal disagreement?

The end times are a tough row to hoe and so it should come as no surprise people will analyze the data differently. Some of the answers are up for grabs. Others are more sure.

For me personally, probably the best way to approach it is to look at the bible first and foremost. My take away might not be the same as someone else's take away, and for me, that's ok.

"False teaching" is a very strong statement to make unless it can be substantiated. If a teaching is deemed to be false, then whoever makes the accusation please show  IN THE BIBLE where it is beyond all doubt false. 

What I have found more often to be the case are those who are repeating something they heard a pastor say, while they themselves haven't fully investigated it. If I'm 4 years old and my dad tells me alcohol is good for me in large quantities I'm going to believe him. When I'm 20 and I've seen a few people die from liver damage, I will only then realize he was dead wrong.

Edited March 7, 2022 by Starise

[Dennis1209]

20 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

I must agree that most( if not all) do not understand, how could we though most folks seem to think they do( lol)

Jesus Himself Said to the Apostles( paraphrase)" How can I tell you of Heavenly things when you cannot even understand/ believe the things of this world....."( John 3:12) I cannot imagine John trying to describe what he saw & I often wonder myself if he fully Understood what he was being shown.... Imagine living in his day & seeing into the future?

With love- in Christ, Kwik

Hi kwik,

I believe the Bible was written using so much symbology, for one reason, so everyone would understand its meaning throughout the ages. I have a thought experiment: Describe the picture below without using any modern names, terminology, or Hebrew / Greek words that did not exist in OT times or John's Day. Describe the scream of the T53-L-13 turbine engine, and the sound of the rotor blades hovering and flying backward, vertical. The swords, bucklers, and shields on this thing. 

 

[kwikphilly]

5 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Hi kwik,

I believe the Bible was written using so much symbology, for one reason, so everyone would understand its meaning throughout the ages. I have a thought experiment: Describe the picture below without using any modern names, terminology, or Hebrew / Greek words that did not exist in OT times or John's Day. Describe the scream of the T53-L-13 turbine engine, and the sound of the rotor blades hovering and flying backward, vertical. The swords, bucklers, and shields on this thing. 

 

Without taking part in your experiment I will say this- " thats ex actly my point Brother"!lol- Good to know you undperstand what Im talking about

With love- your Sis Kwik

[Dennis1209]

13 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

Without taking part in your experiment I will say this- " thats ex actly my point Brother"!lol- Good to know you undperstand what Im talking about

With love- your Sis Kwik

You know, this could be an interesting thread on its own 

[kwikphilly]

48 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Relevance? 

 

What is it in scripture you think references 21st century helicopters? Let me clarify my question: I'm not asking what some teachers think references Huey gunships. I am ask you what you find in scripture that does so. 

"Flying machines" or "flying chariots."

 

Let me suggest an addition to the thought experiment: make it understandable to 1) the original readers and 2) any and every century of reader since then. 

Why? Because the moment it is made not understandable or comprehendible by all the scripture is made useless and irrelevant for that audience and scripture is never useless or irrelevant and that should be one of our criteria in measuring valid and invalid interpretations. 

The relevance was in response to the statement I made that I cannot imagine John trying to describe what he was shown in the future.......🤗

[kwikphilly]

53 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

You know, this could be an interesting thread on its own 

I think so too-Id love it!!!!❤

[kwikphilly]

9 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Missed that post. Was John shown only things in the future? Was John shown only things in his future, or those of people he'd never met and directed to tell those who would never meet those strangers?  

 

I'll peruse the thread to find your earlier post. When I was asked, "Do you believe he was a born again Christian?" you were asking about John Walvoord, not John, the author of Revelation, right? 

Yes Brother, I figured you didnt see my lil statement...( I refenced John(Apostle)writer of Revelation

 I wasnt the one asking you your opinion about John Walvoord.....It may have been Willa or Angels( not sure)- I was just reading your extensive study& research to show the evidence you had found in Scripture to support your opinion regarding his book, teachings( or lack of) and I did not comment.... Good work, very thorough

Edited March 7, 2022 by kwikphilly