The Logos (Word)

[Alive]

@kwikphilly

Good morning sister.

Per your suggestion, I thought I would start this OP and attempt to clarify my intent and meaning in another thread.

I will try to be brief. :-) What I am about to write, is something I think you know, but for clarity and a wee witness--here it is.

Logic is actually a very simple concept. One of the easiest ways to 'express' it by example is with a logical construct, which is what I referred to earlier.

"if this--than that" or put another way. If A is A, it cannot be B. Or if a thing is good, the opposite cannot be good.

Jesus Christ is the Word--the LOGOS as John expressed by the Holy Spirit.

3056. λόγος logos, log´-os; from 3004; something said (including the thought); by implication, a topic (subject of discourse), also reasoning (the mental faculty) or motive; by extension, a computation; specially, (with the article in John) the Divine Expression (i.e. Christ): — account, cause, communication, x concerning, doctrine, fame, x have to do, intent, matter, mouth, preaching, question, reason, + reckon, remove, say(-ing), shew, x speaker, speech, talk, thing, + none of these things move me, tidings, treatise, utterance, word, work.

Many years ago, I took two courses in Logic at college. I realized, simply that this is how I thought every day and we all do whether we are aware of it or not.

Since first reading the bible, I was always fascinated with what John wrote there in referring to Jesus as the Word--the Logos.

I believe the Holy Spirit shed light on that for me in beginning to understand who God is. Again, brieifly...

:-)

The Logos is the rational logical reason for all things. He is such, (if) so what follows (then) is that everything He made is an expression of Himself. If God--then........... everything follows "I am". He exists and because He exists everything else 'IS'. I am going to refrain from (at this time) getting afield into 'ontology', but what we are discussing is existence or 'being'. God the Word wished to share 'being' or existence and to have a family with which to share it.

He is the logical rational reason for all things.

I hope this is helpful for folks to expand their thinking about our God. The 'Paraclete' is present to Help.

:-)

Edited March 26, 2022 by Alive
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[kwikphilly]

Blessings Brother

 FANTASTIC.....I dont have time right now as I was just about to sign out but I'll be more than happy to join you here tomorrow for further discussion

                                                                                                        With love-in Christ <,Kwik

[Raven]

God is Truth, and the Word of God is Truth.

As soon as we try to use logic, or reasoning to the Truth, it no longer is the Truth. It becomes a logical or reasonable version that makes sense to the knowledge already gained by one's imperfect mind. The mind is subjective and all thoughts are subject to it.

The Word is deeper than a computer, or the mind, or even what is written in the Bible.

The Word / Truth cannot be compromised. It is unconditional.

[Michael37]

12 minutes ago, Raven said:

As soon as we try to use logic, or reasoning to the Truth, it no longer is the Truth.

Giggle.

[Willa]

Jesus, the Logos made flesh, is the expression of the invisible God.  Logos is therefore much more than what we can comprehend.  That Logos spoke everything into existence.  I also don't thing we can condense Him to human logic.

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, Willa said:

Jesus, the Logos made flesh, is the expression of the invisible God.  Logos is therefore much more than what we can comprehend.  That Logos spoke everything into existence.  I also don't thing we can condense Him to human logic.

But we are using our God-designed logic to arrive at such conclusions.

Ecc 3:10-11  I have seen the burden which God has given to the sons of men to be afflicted with.  (11)  He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in their hearts, yet so that man can’t find out the work that God has done from the beginning even to the end.
 

[Raven]

3 hours ago, Michael37 said:

But we are using our God-designed logic to arrive at such conclusions.

Ecc 3:10-11  I have seen the burden which God has given to the sons of men to be afflicted with.  (11)  He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in their hearts, yet so that man can’t find out the work that God has done from the beginning even to the end.
 

There is a difference between a 'knowing' and knowledge. The 'knowing' is a conviction of what is true without having any logic or reason for it. Truth can not be broken down into the expression of language without compromising; and once compromised, it is no longer the Truth. However, Truth can be expressed fully by unconditional love and faith. Some call this the language of the heart, between Spirit and spirit. The best 'language-type expression' from the heart is a profound internal silent "YES" of confirmation of what is True.

[Alive]

Is. 1:18    “Come now, and alet us reason together,”

Says the LORD,

“bThough your sins are as scarlet,

They will be as white as snow;

Though they are red like crimson,

They will be like wool.

[Alive]

8 hours ago, Willa said:

Jesus, the Logos made flesh, is the expression of the invisible God.  Logos is therefore much more than what we can comprehend.  That Logos spoke everything into existence.  I also don't thing we can condense Him to human logic.

We certainly cannot condense GOD.

IT seems what I tried to convey has been misunderstood. It is my intent to magnify and glorify God and in a small way to give a testimony of this as the Lord has expanded my understanding of a bit of His Greatness.

To each person according to what the Lord provides.

[Marathoner]

13 minutes ago, Alive said:

We certainly cannot condense GOD.

IT seems what I tried to convey has been misunderstood. It is my intent to magnify and glorify God and in a small way to give a testimony of this as the Lord has expanded my understanding of a bit of His Greatness.

To each person according to what the Lord provides.

I understood what you were getting at, brother. 

As for the notion that truth is beyond man? The truth is a person, and He is the Son of the living God. The Lord Almighty is pleased to reveal Himself to us, even to men and women who see darkly and know only in part. We are the work of His hand after all. 

As for the scriptures being inadequate to explain the Son of God to us, are the same scriptures not God-breathed? They are indeed, and they are fit for our instruction and edification. The scriptures testify of Him.