Timelines

[Uriah]

I guess I'll stick  with using this previous timeline I put up a while ago, until I update it.

 

Edited April 17, 2022 by Uriah
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[abcdef]

3 minutes ago, Uriah said:

Hi ABCDEF,

do you associate Rome with Europe. Historically Rome pretty much owned it.

The main center of the beast prophecies is the gentile domination over the children of Israel and Jerusalem.

The idea would be that where ever the children of Israel are, that they would primarily persecuted or the origin of their persecution, would be Rome. History shows this to be true.

So the statue in Dan 2 is focused, centered, on that deteriorating power of Rome over the people of Israel until Jerusalem is restored and not necessarily over the geographic landscape of territories or maps.  

 

3 minutes ago, Uriah said:

The imagery in Rev. of the woman riding the beast is said to come from Greek mythology.

Daniel wrote about the beast nations in Babylon, long before the empire of the Greeks.

These symbols are meant to be understood by all men. They all have a history.

Think about the Egyptian writings. They wrote with symbols. In the same way, God writes to us with symbols. Communicates with us by symbols.

The meanings of the symbols can be reasoned out.

The beast nation is Rome.

The woman nation is Israel/Jerusalem in the 85 AD-96 AD ish time period and her future with the horns. She is seen as the slave of Rome persecuting Christians.

 

3 minutes ago, Uriah said:

The powerful animal (beast) seduced her convincing her to ride on its back.

The woman Israel is shown as property of the beast nation by the brand on her forehead. 

The name on her forehead is Babylon, but Rome is the beast.

The reason that the beast nation is not called Rome is because it was death to say anything against Rome or Caesar at the time of the writing of the Revelation and after. You couldn't say that Rome was a nasty beast, but you could say that Babylon was a nasty beast and get away with it. 

The children of Israel would know that the 4th beast of Dan. 7 was Rome.

 

3 minutes ago, Uriah said:

But it took her away into the sea. Her name,- Europa.

If you want to say that the "sea" is the "sea of the gentile nations", I would agree with that.

The great scattering of 70 AD was faithful Israel fleeing (the kingdom/church) and the unfaithful Israel (broken branches), being taken as slaves into all nations, not necessarily Europe in an exclusive way, Lk 21:20-24.

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[branchesofHim]

On 4/8/2022 at 5:06 PM, Uriah said:

I am asking if you would please provide YOUR timeline. (or your favorite one) And, please a description of support for it because many may have similarities or a particular point that needs to be emphasized. I'll get mine out there shortly, I'm going to make it a bit neater. 

What timeline specifically do you refer to please? Shalom.

2 Peter 3:[3] Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
[4] And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
[5] For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
[6] Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
[7] But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
[8] But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

[Retrobyter]

5 hours ago, Keras said:

What is described to happen on the terrible Day of the Lord's fiery wrath; when He will not be seen, is quite different to what is prophesied to happen at the glorious Return of Jesus.   There's plenty of scripture to prove the difference. 

However, your responses and rejection of the perfectly feasible idea of a CME being the cause of the destruction of the world as we know it, is the usual reaction I get.  God has made people incapable of understanding the Prophetic truths of the end times. This is in order to to make the coming great test by fire, 1 Peter 4:12, a real challenge to our faith and it will surely winnow out the chaff. Matthew 3:12

Shalom, Keras! Happy Passover and Resurrection Day!

The Day of the LORD, as described by Peter, is the 1,000-year Day, when the Sun of Righteousness arises and stays visible throughout the Millennium! 

Please, understand this: The Judgment Seat of Christ, of the Messiah, will be active THROUGHOUT the Millennium! It will be His job to rule the nations with a rod of iron. To do so, He must make colossal decisions between factions and nations, giving just judgment and a just decision. He shall do this without respect of persons, and He will make decisions that some will say are "not fair." However, equity is NOT His goal! JUSTICE is His goal!

For instance, between two people hired for the same job, if one does more work than the other, the one who does more work receives more pay! It's not "equitable"; it's not "fair," but it IS "JUST."

Peter (Kefa) said,

2 Peter 3:7-12 (KJV)

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, (Greek: hoi de nun ouranoi kai hee gee = "but now the skies and the earth"), by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition [destruction] of ungodly men. [This is talking about the Great White Throne Judgment at the END of the Millennium!]

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9 The Lord is not slack (Greek: ou bradunei = "not is-slow/is-tardy/does-delay") concerning his promise, as some men count slackness (Greek: braduteeta = tardiness/slowness/delay)"; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens (Greek: hoi ouranoi = "the skies") shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. [The "great noise" proves that this is the atmosphere, for "in space, no one can hear you scream!" This likewise occurs at the END of the Millennium!]

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens (Greek: hoi ouranoi = "the skies") being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat? 

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

The Greek of verse 13 is ...

13 καινοὺς δὲ οὐρανοὺς καὶ γῆν καινὴν κατὰ τὸ ἐπάγγελμα αὐτοῦ προσδοκῶμεν, ἐν οἷς δικαιοσύνη κατοικεῖ.

This transliterates to ...

13 kainous de ouranous kai geen kaineen kata to epaggelma autou prosdokoomen, en hois dikaiosunee katoikei.

This translates word-for-word as ...

13 new but skies and an-earth new down/against/according-to the promise of-Him we-are-awaiting/expecting/anticipating, in which righteousness dwells. 

Rearranged for normal English word order, we get ...

13 but according to His promise, we are anticipating new skies and a new earth, in which righteousness dwells.

Simply harmonize this with what we know from Revelation 20-21:

Revelation 20:7-21:4 (KJV)

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. 9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a great (loud) voice out of heaven saying,

"Behold, the tabernacle (tent) of God is with men, and he will dwell (He will tent) with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. 4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

 

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[Uriah]

1 hour ago, branchesofHim said:

What timeline specifically do you refer to please?

I mean a "last days" "end times" timeline. But something encompassing more is ok too.

[Keras]

3 hours ago, Retrobyter said:

Shalom, Keras! Happy Passover and Resurrection Day!

Thank you Roy.  My best wishes to you and yours. 

Proofs that the Day of the Lords fiery wrath is BEFORE the Return and is only a one day event: 

Luke 17:29-30 On the day that Sodom was destroyed, fire and sulphur rained upon them and killed them all. It will be like that again when the Son of Man is revealed.    Amos 4:11-12
Matthew 24:37-42 As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be when the Son of Man comes. In the days before the flood, they ate, drank and married until the day that Noah entered the ark, they knew nothing until the flood came and swept them all away. That is how it will be again when the Son of Man comes. In His vengeance and wrath, not in His glory; as the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. 

Genesis 9:11-14 My covenant to never again destroy all living creatures by a flood is confirmed by the sign of the rainbow.
Deuteronomy 32:22 & 34-35 I have sealed in My storehouse, ready for the Day of punishment and vengeance, a fire that will be set ablaze by My anger. It will envelope the world in flames, burning to the depths of the earth. Jeremiah 50:25
Psalm 110:1-6....I shall make Your enemies Your footstool....In  glorious majesty, You judge the nations, shattering the wicked throughout the world.

Isaiah 24:18-23 On that Day, the Lord will punish in heaven the host of heaven and on earth the leaders of the nations are caught and punished. The sun and moon will be darkened, for the glory of the Lord will be in Jerusalem and is revealed to the elders of His people.
2 Peter 3:5-7 & 10....the world before Noah was destroyed by a great flood. Now, by God’s Word the present heavens and earth are reserved for burning, kept for the Day of judgement when the godless will be destroyed. That Day will come unexpectedly, the sky will dissipate with a great noise and the earth will be enveloped in flames. All its inhabitants will be tested.
Isaiah 66:1-6 My people are oppressed and afflicted and evil people displease Me, they say: Let the Lord come, we do not believe in Him. Therefore, the noise you can hear is the Lord dealing retribution to His foes.  Romans 1:18, Hebrews 10:27
Matthew 24:40-44 There will be two men in a field, one will be taken the other left, two women at the mill, one will be taken, the other left. Keep awake, therefore for the Lord will come unexpectedly.
Isaiah 63:1-6 The Lord comes from the godless nations, in His power and majesty, He tramples them in His fury, their blood spills out and splashes His garments.       At the Return He comes in blood splashed garments.

2 Thessalonians 1:6-10...the Day the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven in flaming fire….He       will reveal His glory among all believers. Revelation 14:1
What we can understand from the above Bible passages, is that the Day of the Lord, when the Son of Man takes action, is not Jesus’ Return as the Word of God, for the Millennium reign. At the Return: ‘all will see Him’, not as in this Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, where He is not seen: Psalms 18:11, Luke 3:17, but ‘His glory will be revealed to all believers’.  2 Thessalonians 1:10
God promised to ‘never again flood the earth’, but He has ‘stored up a fire that will envelope the earth in flames’, a worldwide judgement/punishment, vividly described by all the prophets.
This terrible fire and devastation will come upon the world unexpectedly, ‘While they are saying: All is peaceful, all secure, then destruction is upon them’. 1 Thess. 5:3          Huge numbers will be killed by the fire, earthquakes and the resulting famines afterward. Jeremiah 9:22, Isaiah 34:1-8, Ezekiel 30:2-5
The Lord is not seen on that Day, but His people are saved and protected, [not raptured] Isaiah 30:26b, Isaiah 43:2, Zechariah 9:5-16

Then, as in Ezekiel 20:33-38...by My outpoured wrath, [The Day of wrath] I shall bring you out of the nations and gather you back to Israel. The Lord is: ‘Waiting to show you His favor’, and to bless His true believing people as they fulfill the promises to the Patriarchs and their destiny: ‘to be a light to the nations’. Isaiah 49:8, Matthew 5:4-16

[Marilyn C]

On 4/9/2022 at 9:36 AM, Uriah said:

I am asking if you would please provide YOUR timeline. (or your favorite one) And, please a description of support for it because many may have similarities or a particular point that needs to be emphasized. I'll get mine out there shortly, I'm going to make it a bit neater. 

Hi Uriah,

[Marilyn C]

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