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5 hours ago, abcdef said:

Look at the event that follows the stone striking the statue, the wheat and chaff judgment.

Since this is showing wheat and chaff as good and evil, this can only be the resurrection of good and evil souls at the last judgment. John 5:28-29, Rev 20:11-15.

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The last event shown to take place on planet earth is the fire from heaven in Rev 2o:9, which is the stone in Dan 2.

Notice how both passages show parallel events such as in Rev 20:11, heaven and earth fly away and there was no place found for them. In Dan. 2:35, the chaff is carried away and there is no place found for them.

Both of these show this material planet and universe flying away completely and never returning.

Since the last judgment happens after the Dan. 2 stone and the Rev 20 fire, it shows that all human life on this planet is ended and the kingdom is completed and ready to be delivered up to the Father.

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The stone of Dan. 2 is actually a stone. A stone that was formed by God long ago. A huge stone that has been on a collision course with this planet since its formation, guided by God. Timed by God to strike at the precise moment that He intended, in the exact spot He intended. At a time not long from now.

He tells us exactly when and what the circumstances are. They center on Israel and Jerusalem.

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The "global government" is in reality Rome, the iron, which ruled over all the earth of Israel, that is, where ever the children of Israel were. 

You are putting things together that I don't see.


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On 4/22/2022 at 9:45 AM, OneLight said:

OK, the second video contradicts the first video, so which is it? 2029?  2036?  2068? The next 100 years??

I've often wondered why people build upon guess work, write books and create TV programs discussing this "guess" when we just don't know.  Even science itself claims they are not sure.  Here is what NASA says about Apophis:

https://www.nasa.gov/feature/jpl/nasa-analysis-earth-is-safe-from-asteroid-apophis-for-100-plus-years

From the link:

“A 2068 impact is not in the realm of possibility anymore, and our calculations don’t show any impact risk for at least the next 100 years,” said Davide Farnocchia of NASA’s Center for Near-Earth Object Studies (CNEOS), which is managed by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Southern California. “With the support of recent optical observations and additional radar observations, the uncertainty in Apophis’ orbit has collapsed from hundreds of kilometers to just a handful of kilometers when projected to 2029. This greatly improved knowledge of its position in 2029 provides more certainty of its future motion, so we can now remove Apophis from the risk list.”

There are far too many false teachings created from the imagination of the minds of men.  Will the prophesies in Revelation happen?  You bet they will!  Yet, the focus should be on ensuring we are in Him so when it all does happen, we will be ready.  What ever happened to when scripture is silent, we also should be silent?  Our imagine is a wonderful play area where we can have a lot of fun, but it is not reality.

It should be pretty obvious why there are always people trying to predict the end of the world. Simply,  it makes them lots of money. These guys know that what they say is false. If they really thought the world would end in a few years,  making millions would not be the first thing on their list. Therefore,  they know there are enough gullible people in world to spout their stories and make their money. 


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18 hours ago, abcdef said:

The asteroid that strikes the earth and ends all human life on this planet is shown in Dan. 2:34-35, as the stone that strikes the statue.

Rev 16:17-21, As the great earthquake and the division of the city.

Rev 20:9, as the fire from heaven.

It is a direct hit on Jerusalem, Rev 16:17-21.

These 3 passages are all describing the same event, which the things happening now in the Middle East are leading up to, the battle of Armageddon, which Israel will lose and the surrounding of Jerusalem.

The resur/rapt happens just before the asteroid strike, so Christians will not be here.

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I know that you disagree, that is ok, I disagree with almost everyone. We all seem to see things differently.

There is no need to answer unless you really want to know the truth about the sweet and bitter scroll. But the truth is coming for us anyway and He will be here soon.

 

The book of Revelation shows 2 different objects from space that will hit the earth. However neither of these events "ends" life on earth. The book of Revelation clearly shows life continues after every single judgement,  even the impacts with earth. Life on earth will never end. It is eternal. 


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36 minutes ago, Robtay7123 said:

The book of Revelation shows 2 different objects from space that will hit the earth. However neither of these events "ends" life on earth. The book of Revelation clearly shows life continues after every single judgement,  even the impacts with earth. Life on earth will never end. It is eternal. 

Scripture tells us something different in Revelation 20:11 thru 21:5.

Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them.  And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.  The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.  Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.  And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.  Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.  And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God.  And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

Seems to me that when the heavens and earth fled away and Jesus makes a new heaven and earth, there is a time during this process that no life will exist on the earth like it does now, so I'd say your statement that "Life on earth will never end.  It is eternal." is an incorrect conclusion.


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33 minutes ago, OneLight said:

Scripture tells us something different in Revelation 20:11 thru 21:5.

Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them.  And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books.  The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works.  Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.  And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea.  Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.  And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God.  And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.”

Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

Seems to me that when the heavens and earth fled away and Jesus makes a new heaven and earth, there is a time during this process that no life will exist on the earth like it does now, so I'd say your statement that "Life on earth will never end.  It is eternal." is an incorrect conclusion.

I would agree with you if I only looked at the passage you are quoting. However the new heavens and especially the new earth are mentioned in at least 20 books of the Bible. Also,  the heavens and earth fleeing away refers to a complete transformation or new teraforming of the landscape of the earth for the new millennial kingdom. 


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23 minutes ago, Robtay7123 said:

I would agree with you if I only looked at the passage you are quoting. However the new heavens and especially the new earth are mentioned in at least 20 books of the Bible. Also,  the heavens and earth fleeing away refers to a complete transformation or new teraforming of the landscape of the earth for the new millennial kingdom. 

Perhaps include 2 Peter 3:10-13 for clarification and support. 

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.  Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells.

Please, do provide the scripture you know of that tells us that the new heaven and new earth are just makeovers of the current and not a fully new creation as is shown in the scripture I provided.  It seems to me that if everything, every element, is melted, no human will ever survive such an event.


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1 hour ago, OneLight said:

Please, do provide the scripture you know of that tells us that the new heaven and new earth are just makeovers of the current and not a fully new creation as is shown in the scripture I provided.  It seems to me that if everything, every element, is melted, no human will ever survive such an event.

If the new city of Jerusalem has the size that is given, the new heavens and earth can not have the same physics laws as we have now.   A city that high simply is not possible in this present dimension.


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5 hours ago, Robtay7123 said:

The book of Revelation shows 2 different objects from space that will hit the earth. However neither of these events "ends" life on earth. The book of Revelation clearly shows life continues after every single judgement,  even the impacts with earth. Life on earth will never end. It is eternal. 

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Life on earth will never end. It is eternal. 

Do you have scripture for that?

1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea. 2 And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne, saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is among men, and He will dwell among them, and they shall be His people, and God Himself will be among them, 4 and He will wipe away every tear from their eyes; and there will no longer be any death; there will no longer be any mourning, or crying, or pain; the first things have passed away.” 5 And He who sits on the throne said, “Behold, I am making all things new.” And He *said, “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” 6 Then He said to me, “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give to the one who thirsts from the spring of the water of life without cost. 7 He who overcomes will inherit these things, and I will be his God and he will be My son. 8 But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.” 9 Then one of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and spoke with me, saying, “Come here, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.” 10 And he carried me away in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, 11 having the glory of God. Her brilliance was like a very costly stone, as a stone of crystal-clear jasper. 12 It had a great and high wall, with twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels; and names were written on them, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the sons of Israel. 13 There were three gates on the east and three gates on the north and three gates on the south and three gates on the west. 14 And the wall of the city had twelve foundation stones, and on them were the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb. Rev.21:1-14

 


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On 4/23/2022 at 7:06 AM, other one said:

You are putting things together that I don't see.

All prophetic time lines must agree and fit together. How they fit together is the center of the differences between the theories.

The simplest timeline is Dan. 2. It is sometimes accepted that the gold, silver, brass, and iron represent nations.

Where we are on the statue time line is of primary importance.

We are in the time just before the stone strikes.

The logic is this, the iron is Rome and the iron domination over the children of Israel has ended. It ended when Jerusalem was restored in 1967.

The end of the iron means that the toes have ended and the stone is about to strike.

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Briefly, all other timelines must agree with this Dan. 2 time line. 

The stone striking the statue is an event that can be identified in other prophecies such as the 7th trumpet, the 7th vial/bowl, and the Rev 20 fire from heaven.

This identifies the passages as parallel and not as consecutive.

Being parallel and speaking about the same event, we can identify the details and  circumstances leading up to the event and the event itself.

Sadly, all of the endings, involve the surrounding of Jerusalem once it has been restored to the children of Israel, the restoration happened in 1967.

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The indications seem to be that the stone striking is the end of human life on this planet.

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Posted
On 4/23/2022 at 3:07 PM, Robtay7123 said:

The book of Revelation shows 2 different objects from space that will hit the earth.

What passages do you find them in?

 

On 4/23/2022 at 3:07 PM, Robtay7123 said:

However neither of these events "ends" life on earth. The book of Revelation clearly shows life continues after every single judgement,  even the impacts with earth.

Life in heaven will always continue. But this material earth cannot go to eternal heaven, because this material earth is in a state of decay, not perfect.

 

On 4/23/2022 at 3:07 PM, Robtay7123 said:

Life on earth will never end. It is eternal. 

Gen 8:22, points to a time when the earth will not remain.

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