just_abc Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 901 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 538 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/06/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Sparks said: If you live in the United States, it's not a democracy, it's a Republic. 8 hours ago, Rick-Parker said: Wrong. The United States is a Republic. hi. Just a small note. If I am not mistaken.... Whether the Usa is considered a democracy or not.. might depend on which english language one is using.... Republic (american english definition) = representative democracy (UK english definition) Also while the Usa would be considered a Republic too in different english languages.... the reason why the Usa is considered a republic might be different (depending on the which english language one is using ).. Outside the Usa... the term Republic simply refers to countries which don't have a monarchy etc.. So for example.. Japan.. India.. Thailand.. Singapore.. all these countries have elections to choose governments... India and Singapore .. are called Republics.. but Japan and Thailand.. are not called Republics.. because they have a monarchy.. Sorry just a small note. Because I think both many americans and non-americans too might not realise there are differences in definitions used.. Thanks. Edited September 24, 2022 by just_abc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,159 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 2,513 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/20/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 57 minutes ago, just_abc said: hi. Just a small note. If I am not mistaken.... Whether the Usa is considered a democracy or not.. might depend on which english language one is using.... Republic (american english definition) = representative democracy (UK english definition) Also while the Usa would be considered a Republic too in different english languages.... the reason why the Usa is considered a republic might be different (depending on the which english language one is using ).. Outside the Usa... the term Republic simply refers to countries which don't have a monarchy etc.. So for example.. Japan.. India.. Thailand.. Singapore.. all these countries have elections to choose governments... India and Singapore .. are called Republics.. but Japan and Thailand.. are not called Republics.. because they have a monarchy.. Sorry just a small note. Because I think both many americans and non-americans too might not realise there are differences in definitions used.. Thanks. The two are not synonyms. The United States was the world's first Constitutional Republic. A democracy is a whole different animal. Now the main stream media calls the USA a democracy, but that is out of a desire. Others call the USA a democracy, but that is out of ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_abc Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 901 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 538 Days Won: 1 Joined: 12/06/2002 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) On 9/24/2022 at 10:26 AM, Sparks said: The two are not synonyms. The United States was the world's first Constitutional Republic. A democracy is a whole different animal. Now the main stream media calls the USA a democracy, but that is out of a desire. Others call the USA a democracy, but that is out of ignorance. From dictionary site : In British / UK english language : And in Usa english too : democracy https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/democracy republic https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/republic The definitions in American english might be a bit different than in UK english... That does not necessarily mean one english language is wrong or that just the other one is correct.. However it does mean that when people around the world use those terms republic and democracy.. sometimes the words might not always mean the same thing as it does to another person.. because there can be differences in the meaning /definition .. especially between american english.. and many / most other english languages.. Just my thoughts thats all. No offence intended. And my apologies to all for being off topic.. Sorry and Thanks. Edited September 25, 2022 by just_abc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparks Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 6,159 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 2,513 Days Won: 8 Joined: 01/20/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 3 hours ago, just_abc said: From dictionary site : In British / UK english language : And in Usa english too below that : democracy https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/democracy republic https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/republic The definitions in American english might be a bit different than in UK english... That does not necessarily mean one english language is wrong or that just the other one is correct.. However it does mean that when people around the world use those terms republic and democracy.. sometimes the words might not always mean the same thing as it does to another person.. because there can be differences in the meaning /definition .. especially between american english.. and many / most other english languages.. Just my thoughts thats all. No offence intended. And my apologies to all for being off topic.. Sorry and Thanks. We are talking about the United States of America. We in America invented the concept of a Constitutional Republic. Every day little kids in schools all across America start their day by pledging allegiance to our flag and they say, "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." The word democracy is repugnant to those who were born free in a Constitutional Republic. There’s a reason why the American founders created a republic, and not a democracy. Republics are the best form of government for protecting the individual from the tyranny of the majority. And there most certainly is a tyranny of the majority that always manifests in democratic style systems. Democracy vs a Republic Perfectly Explained 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick-Parker Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.23 Content Count: 4,273 Content Per Day: 4.86 Reputation: 1,855 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/17/2021 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/03/1955 Share Posted September 24, 2022 22 hours ago, JimmyB said: You're wrong. Bye. You keep saying that. Prove with scripture that GOD did not give us free will. I can prove that we have free will just by looking at Adam and Eve's choice to eat the forbidden fruit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyB Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,628 Content Per Day: 1.15 Reputation: 304 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rick-Parker said: You keep saying that. Prove with scripture that GOD did not give us free will. I can prove that we have free will just by looking at Adam and Eve's choice to eat the forbidden fruit. You don't understand what "bye" means? BYE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, JimmyB said: You don't understand what "bye" means? BYE! You have free Will to say bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyB Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,628 Content Per Day: 1.15 Reputation: 304 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/23/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted September 24, 2022 48 minutes ago, R. Hartono said: You have free Will to say bye. You realize, of course, that this was said to Rick-Parker, not to you. So why are you posting this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 22 Topic Count: 194 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 11,054 Content Per Day: 6.48 Reputation: 9,018 Days Won: 36 Joined: 09/12/2019 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/09/1956 Share Posted September 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Rick-Parker said: You keep saying that. Prove with scripture that GOD did not give us free will. I can prove that we have free will just by looking at Adam and Eve's choice to eat the forbidden fruit. Consider that perhaps Adam/Eve before the fall, possessed a kind of will not bound by sin, but afterwards, their will was significantly bound up by sin and death and thus limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Hartono Posted September 24, 2022 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 775 Topics Per Day: 0.34 Content Count: 6,953 Content Per Day: 3.05 Reputation: 1,985 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/15/2018 Status: Offline Author Share Posted September 24, 2022 7 hours ago, JimmyB said: You realize, of course, that this was said to Rick-Parker, not to you. So why are you posting this? You have freewill not to reply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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