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[Starise]

18 minutes ago, Dan Knight said:

I am sure to get worked over for this one...

It's not about righteous Job,  rather self righteous Job.  He accounted God's goodness to his goodness.  Which negates grace.

Read where God begins in on him saying," where were you when I..."

Few verses later Job repents.

God refers to Job as.perfect in his own ways.  We know now that God's ways are not our ways.

It seems to me God was after Job to tell him something for good reason, so yeah he was likely arrogant. Much of what is thought to be in this book is read between the lines. Unlike Nebuchadnezzar, who bragged to himself about all the HE had accomplished, I don't recall reading that about Job. 

I think I remember chapters where he is moaning about his condition to the Lord. Maybe the references kwik is looking at in calling him a whiner. Kwik do you by any chance have the whining chapters? If not no worries. I'll look it up tonight.

The Lord is coming back at Job in what seems to be frustration at him for wondering why he is in such a pickle or bemoaning his circumstance.God reminds him who calls the shots.

Satan really wanted at Job in the worst way. He was convinced he could crack him if the Lord's protection was taken away. 

[ayin jade]

57 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

Can we talk about Job a little?

I'm probably gonna get chewed out here but that is my least favorite books in all the Bible( probably because everyone told me to ," read Job" for certain personal reasons when I was dead in sin)

Anyway,I still think Job was the whiningest,grumbling,complaining,wow is me,pity partier I ever heard.. ..Bless his murmuring self though,he remained Faithful & never cursed God!

Any thoughts? I'm asking for it,aren't I?

I confess, it is not my favorite book either. 

[kwikphilly]

25 minutes ago, Starise said:

It seems to me God was after Job to tell him something for good reason, so yeah he was likely arrogant. Much of what is thought to be in this book is read between the lines. Unlike Nebuchadnezzar, who bragged to himself about all the HE had accomplished, I don't recall reading that about Job. 

I think I remember chapters where he is moaning about his condition to the Lord. Maybe the references kwik is looking at in calling him a whiner. Kwik do you by any chance have the whining chapters? If not no worries. I'll look it up tonight.

The Lord is coming back at Job in what seems to be frustration at him for wondering why he is in such a pickle or bemoaning his circumstance.God reminds him who calls the shots.

Satan really wanted at Job in the worst way. He was convinced he could crack him if the Lord's protection was taken away. 

Oh boy,I'm on my phone which is such a problem & the reason I don't post Scripture lately cause I can't open new tabs,copy or paste- it's a bad phone- sorry

But when he finally does speak in Chapter 3 it's just lamenting & griping that he should have been stillborn.Then I think Chapter 10 is when he is telling God to leave him alone so he could just die.....I hope that right,I usually have good memory but not lately

 

[ayin jade]

Must be something wrong with the quote function. Johanns post quotes me but I never posted that. 

[Selah7]

16 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

Oh boy,I'm on my phone which is such a problem & the reason I don't post Scripture lately cause I can't open new tabs,copy or paste- it's a bad phone- sorry

But when he finally does speak in Chapter 3 it's just lamenting & griping that he should have been stillborn.Then I think Chapter 10 is when he is telling God to leave him alone so he could just die.....I hope that right,I usually have good memory but not lately

 

…but if you had lost your children, would you call it whining?  …a broken heart never unbreaks.   Sorry, Kwik, just had to say it.   Selah 

[kwikphilly]

3 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

…but if you had lost your children, would you call it whining?  …a broken heart never unbreaks.   Sorry, Kwik, just had to say it.   Selah 

I didn't whine,no.   Does not mean my heart was not broken or still aches

I don't mean to embarrass you dear Sister but be careful of assumptions

[DeighAnn]

1 hour ago, kwikphilly said:

You're 1000 percent right Brother! Rain falls on the just & the unjust....

We do have a tendency to self examine,search out hearts- don't we? I know God does not Allow ANYTHING to happen without reason so I do often wonder,why?

We just cannot forget that liar,the accusor,the one who would really like a foothold!Let's ,in Jesus Name,kick em to the curb right now because WHATEVER God's Reason is for our Good & His Glory!Amen?

If God had his hand in everything, then would we really have free will? 

 remember what Jesus said and get set free so you don't go seeing some 'punishment' when the reality of the situation is,  'it is just 'life' here on earth' in a 'corrupted' world.     


Luke 13:1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.

Luke 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?

Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Luke 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Bad things happen to GOOD PEOPLE all the time and it has nothing to do with God.  We have been given the tools to keep 'evil' away from us so we know when things happen we can be sure it is not of God nor of the devil. 

Granted,  if we don't use the tools we have been given,  we can't be sure,  but if we do...

BUT, I do believe if God has a specific plan for some people, those He will be using to do His will and those He will give extra protection to, but that doesn't happen to very many. 

How's that for short?  

[Selah7]

12 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

I didn't whine,no.   Does not mean my heart was not broken or still aches

I don't mean to embarrass you dear Sister but be careful of assumptions

…but Kwik, it was you who used the word “whining,” not me.  I don’t think Job whined at all, considering the heartbreaking ordeals he underwent.  Selah 

 

[kwikphilly]

5 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

…but Kwik, it was you who used the word “whining,” not me.  I don’t think Job whined at all, considering the heartbreaking ordeals he underwent.  Selah 

 

I understand Sis,I get you- I'm not offended( I love you)

Most people don't see Job as whiny,I do.   But I certainly can relate to his pain,his loss & his suffering,just not his complaining or his later on self-righteousness( imo)

I understand your compassion,I really do

You asked " if I losr a child would I whine". Unfortunately I am more that able to answer that question

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by kwikphilly

[kwikphilly]

9 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

If God had his hand in everything, then would we really have free will? 

 remember what Jesus said and get set free so you don't go seeing some 'punishment' when the reality of the situation is,  'it is just 'life' here on earth' in a 'corrupted' world.     


Luke 13:1 There were present at that season some that told him of the Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.

Luke 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?

Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Luke 13:4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

Bad things happen to GOOD PEOPLE all the time and it has nothing to do with God.  We have been given the tools to keep 'evil' away from us so we know when things happen we can be sure it is not of God nor of the devil. 

Granted,  if we don't use the tools we have been given,  we can't be sure,  but if we do...

BUT, I do believe if God has a specific plan for some people, those He will be using to do His will and those He will give extra protection to, but that doesn't happen to very many. 

How's that for short?  

That was cute D.    I get a kick out of you 

That's a good perspective,Amen!❤️