Beware of False Teachers.

[Marathoner]

Accusations are a grave matter for us all. We have our hands full resisting the accuser of the brethren as it is without someone else coming along adding to the burden we already bear. How can anyone learn if all we're handed is an accusation?

It sows doubt among the unwary and vulnerable. It's gossip. The Lord is not the author of this. 

Without an example of these alleged false teachings, what should we do? Guess? No. As I wrote earlier, this has been done before. When asked to deliver, nothing was provided. It all boils down to a difference of opinion:

"I disagree with them, so they are false teachers."

Not so.

[missmuffet]

7 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

Accusations are a grave matter for us all. We have our hands full resisting the accuser of the brethren as it is without someone else coming along adding to the burden we already bear. How can anyone learn if all we're handed is an accusation?

It sows doubt among the unwary and vulnerable. It's gossip. The Lord is not the author of this. 

Without an example of these alleged false teachings, what should we do? Guess? No. As I wrote earlier, this has been done before. When asked to deliver, nothing was provided. It all boils down to a difference of opinion:

"I disagree with them, so they are false teachers."

Not so.

Maybe go to a Bible study of a trusted Bible scholar who will teach the true literal Word of God. Be interested in the truth.

 

[Dennis1209]

I have never heard or read two godly men preachers, scholars, or expositors agreeing in their entire exegesis-hermeneutics. Picking two out of thin air not any longer in the mainstream (G.H. Pember & Scofield), does that mean we discount everything they taught because we have a different theology on a couple of topics? Is how old the earth a tenet core of the faith? They can be wrong, as AdHoc suggests, but they are not false teachers with deceitful hearts (c.f. Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, et al.).

I believe John MacArthur to be one of our generation's most gifted and knowledgeable theologians, yet I only agree with roughly 95% of his views. Many factors go into shaping our theology. Sorry to put him on the spot, but I would like to know how @AdHoc theology was shaped, his background, denomination affiliations, if any, formal theology education, etc. I think we can agree that he is well-versed in the Bible.

As an assistant Sundays School leader in my Baptist church, I have concerns when presenting the lessons. The denomination and our preacher(s) have firm convictions in some areas that I have doubts about or consider differently.

When a lesson comes up that I have a different view on, I present it according to the doctrine and lesson plan. I will sometimes insert my opinion to compare and contrast for consideration. It is never, thus saith Dennis.

The thing I want never to do is be a false teacher spouting misinformation on God's Word.

[Alive]

3 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I have never heard or read two godly men preachers, scholars, or expositors agreeing in their entire exegesis-hermeneutics. Picking two out of thin air not any longer in the mainstream (G.H. Pember & Scofield), does that mean we discount everything they taught because we have a different theology on a couple of topics? Is how old the earth a tenet core of the faith? They can be wrong, as AdHoc suggests, but they are not false teachers with deceitful hearts (c.f. Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, et al.).

I believe John MacArthur to be one of our generation's most gifted and knowledgeable theologians, yet I only agree with roughly 95% of his views. Many factors go into shaping our theology. Sorry to put him on the spot, but I would like to know how @AdHoc theology was shaped, his background, denomination affiliations, if any, formal theology education, etc. I think we can agree that he is well-versed in the Bible.

As an assistant Sundays School leader in my Baptist church, I have concerns when presenting the lessons. The denomination and our preacher(s) have firm convictions in some areas that I have doubts about or consider differently.

When a lesson comes up that I have a different view on, I present it according to the doctrine and lesson plan. I will sometimes insert my opinion to compare and contrast for consideration. It is never, thus saith Dennis.

The thing I want never to do is be a false teacher spouting misinformation on God's Word.

Are you provided a lesson plan/outline to follow each time?

[Not of the World]

10 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

As an assistant Sundays School leader in my Baptist church, I have concerns when presenting the lessons. The denomination and our preacher(s) have firm convictions in some areas that I have doubts about or consider differently.

There are a lot of deep, Biblical, topics that are probably better left alone with most church attendees.  My recommendation is to focus on how we must love God and follow his commandments as he is our father and we want to make him proud to call us his own.  As well, we should focus on genuinely loving one another as Jesus commanded.  If we as "sowers" of the word @Sower (best username here!) can get believers to really buy into those things, then we have done a great service in the name of our Lord!  

[steve morrow]

WHO  IS  IT  THAT  IS  INVOLVED  IN  THIS  OP  PRIOR  TO  THIS  ENTRY  THAT --- IS  NOT  SEETTING  A  BAD  EXAMPLE ---  FALSE  TEACHING??

 

JOHN 6:63  it is the spirit that quickeneth  --the flesh profiteth nothing  ---  the words that I speak they are spirit and they are life--

 

GALATIANS 6:8  FOR  HE  THAT  SOWETH  TO  HIS  FLESH  SHALL  OF  THE  FLESH  REAP  CORRUPTION  ---  BUT  HE  THAT  SOWETH  TO  THE  SPIRIT  SHALL  OF  THE  SPIRIT  REAP  LIFE  EVERLASTING

 

PSALM 119:36  incline my heart unto  --THY  TESTIMONIES--and not to covetousness-- 

GALATIANS  1:10   --for do I now persuade men or  GOD-- or do I seek to please men   --for if I yet pleased men  ---  I  SHOULD  NOT  BE  THE  SERVANT  OF  CHRIST 

 

 

ISAIAH 2:11  THE  LOFTY  LOOKS  OF  MAN  SHALL  BE  HUMBLED  AND  THE  HAUGHTINESS  OF  MEN  SHALL  BE  BOWED  DOWN  ---AND  THE  LORD   --ALONE--   SHALL  BE  EXALTED  IN  THAT  DAY---

 

PROVERBS 8:13  the fear of  THE  LORD  is to hate evil   --pride and arrogancy and the evil way  ---  and the froward mouth-- do I hate

 

LOVING  THE  LORD  JESUS  CHRIST

[Not of the World]

One thing that I have learned is that it is difficult to see the truth when simultaneously filled with anger, resentment, and bitterness toward others.  

[missmuffet]

24 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I have never heard or read two godly men preachers, scholars, or expositors agreeing in their entire exegesis-hermeneutics. Picking two out of thin air not any longer in the mainstream (G.H. Pember & Scofield), does that mean we discount everything they taught because we have a different theology on a couple of topics? Is how old the earth a tenet core of the faith? They can be wrong, as AdHoc suggests, but they are not false teachers with deceitful hearts (c.f. Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer, et al.).

I believe John MacArthur to be one of our generation's most gifted and knowledgeable theologians, yet I only agree with roughly 95% of his views. Many factors go into shaping our theology. Sorry to put him on the spot, but I would like to know how @AdHoc theology was shaped, his background, denomination affiliations, if any, formal theology education, etc. I think we can agree that he is well-versed in the Bible.

As an assistant Sundays School leader in my Baptist church, I have concerns when presenting the lessons. The denomination and our preacher(s) have firm convictions in some areas that I have doubts about or consider differently.

When a lesson comes up that I have a different view on, I present it according to the doctrine and lesson plan. I will sometimes insert my opinion to compare and contrast for consideration. It is never, thus saith Dennis.

The thing I want never to do is be a false teacher spouting misinformation on God's Word.

Dr. Charles Stanley and Dr. David Jeremiah would agree with each other. Both of them would agree with John MacArthur as well on Biblical prophecy. These guys have been studying doctrine for 40 or 50 years. They have my respect on their knowledge. I would never say that I know more than they do. 

[Dennis1209]

43 minutes ago, Alive said:

Are you provided a lesson plan/outline to follow each time?

Yes, Lifeway Studies for Life. To my understanding, this has been used for a long time. They are excellent lessons but strictly follow Baptist doctrine as fact.

As I briefly mentioned in another post somewhere, I requested and was given permission to change our format from time to time. Sunday School is a place of learning, especially things you do not typically hear taught from the pulpit. For instance:

We have a very large framed “church covenant” on the wall of our church. What is it doing there, who wrote it, when, and why?

We identify with a Baptist denomination; why did we select this denomination? What is the history of the Baptist Church, particularly in America, from Plymouth Rock forward? How did Baptists influence and get the passage of our Constitutional 1^st Amendment Rights we enjoy presently?

I had to condense many books into a one-hour lesson, but it was doable. Our pastor asked me this morning if I was giving this presentation next Sunday, and I affirmed that I intended to, Lord willing. He seldom sits in on our Sunday School lessons, but I think he will on this one for some reason.

Probably to ensure I am not outside the boundaries, and rightfully so.

[Jayne]

Here's the thing.....

Is it a purposeful false teaching ...?

• or just someone who doesn't know what they are talking about based on a serious lack of knowledge of the Bible and patent refusal to attend a church?
• or someone who just specializes in copying and pasting?
• or an immature Christian who has to have the last word?

Wrong teachings - purposeful or not - are everywhere. 

• You can't just drive up to a church on a Sunday morning and say, "Well, this is a church. I'm sure the truth is told here."
• You can't just turn the TV on at any given time and watch a televangelist and say, "Well, he has a Bible in his hand, he must be telling the truth."
• You can't just go to a bookstore and pull any old book from the religious section and say, "Well, it's in the section with the Bibles.  It must be true."
• You can't join any "Christian" forum and say, 'Well, it says Christian [or Bible] on it so it's all going to be the truth."

Heresy started early ..... and grew quickly.

It started LONG before Jesus Christ was ever born.

The best thing to do when you encounter lies and false teaching is to confront it and shine the light of the truth from God's Word on it.

Missmuffet - I feel your pain.  Telling people it's here is moot.  It's everywhere.  Literally.  I've been on several forums.  Several.  I found wrong teachings everywhere.  You can't stop it.

Confront it and share what the Bible truly says and leave it to God.