christmas is evil

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

3 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Learn not the way of the heathen... for the customs of the people are vain;
for one cuts a tree out of the forest... with the axe.
They deck it with silver and gold; they fasten it with nails that it moves not.

Jeremiah 10:2-4

"Christmas" started as Saturnalia, a pagan set of days given to fornication and drunkenness.
It is Saturnalia that traditions such as kissing under mistletoe come from.
 

Some would say, well, we remember the birth of Jesus on Christmas.

And sing songs such as "Come on ring those bells, light the Christmas tree... Jesus is the king, born for you and me....
 Jesus we remember this your birthday"
It's a nice song, but let us consider the actual words of Jesus.

 

And He sent Peter and John saying. Go prepare the Passover, that we may eat.
Luke 22:8

And when the hour was come (for Passover)
He sat down with His twelve disciples
And He said unto them, with desire I have desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer.
Luke 22:14-15

And He took the cup and gave thanks and said, take this and divide it among yourselves.
And He took bread and gave thanks... saying; This is my body which is given for you:
do this in remembrance of me.

Luke 22:17-19

'After the same manner He took the cup, when He had supped, saying;
this do ye, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me'
1 Corinthians 11:25

 

So the way the Bible says we are to remember the Lord is by the Lords supper.
And we know when that supper happened, it was on Passover, and the same night Christ was captured to be crucified.
 

And the servants and officers stood there, who had made a fire of coals;
because it was cold: and they warmed themselves:
and Peter stood with them and warmed himself.
John 18:18

And it was cold at that time.

 

 

You may not be aware of this, but the passage in Jeremiah isn't talking about Christmas or Saturnalia. Neither holiday existed during Jeremiah's time. There are no scriptures that mention either holiday. 

If you believe that The Lord's Supper is a more appropriate celebration, then do it with all your heart. I actually agree that we definitely should do communion. Why don't pastors and families celebrate communion on Christmas? 

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

3 minutes ago, TreeFivew said:

Also, it's Saturnalia.

Actually it's not. Saturnalia didn't yet exist in Jeremiah's time. I've already researched that argument. 

[ayin jade]

I plan on enjoying Christmas. Despite the family drama.

I'm not worshipping a pagan god.

[TreeFivew]

12 minutes ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:

Actually it's not. Saturnalia didn't yet exist in Jeremiah's time. I've already researched that argument. 

Krampus  Helios is Sun Christos Christ Crescent Christ-mas but ok

[other one]

2 hours ago, Ghostdog said:

how come no one started this thread yet? ill start it even though its almost too late

see what you started....     bad dog....   bad bad dog....

[Desopixi Seilynam]

32 minutes ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:

You may not be aware of this, but the passage in Jeremiah isn't talking about Christmas or Saturnalia

Right, it's not, it's talking about the practice of cutting a tree out of the woods and putting decorations on it.

[Neighbor]

It is not a birthday. It is an incarnation.

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[other one]

1 minute ago, Neighbor said:

It is not a birthday. It is an incarnation.

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I wonder if Mary would agree with that.

[TrueFollowerOfChrist]

10 minutes ago, Desopixi Seilynam said:

Right, it's not, it's talking about the practice of cutting a tree out of the woods and putting decorations on it.

Yes, which by itself can't be used to approve or condemn any holidays that aren't even related to it. People really twist the Jeremiah passage. It's condemning the actual worship of Idols. I don't know anyone who "worships" their Christmas tree, so its not even close to the same thing. Scripture doesn't condemn decorations, only worshipping them.

[Marathoner]

@Ghostdog should be slapped with a fish for starting this topic. Oh wait, pagans used fish imagery. They also cooked and ate them. 

Okay, bad doggie should be sentenced to wear a cone for three months on account of this travesty... but wait a minute. Cones... trees... pyramids... got it. Pagan. 

Fine. Let's send ghostdoggy to sit in the corner! But pagan temples had corners, too. Bah. 

Hmmm.