Will Jesus Rule With A "Rod Of Iron" A King's Scepter, During A Millennium As Many Teach?

[truth7t7]

Many falsely believe and teach "Rod Of Iron" Is a scepter to be used by Jesus Christ, to rule on this earth during a Millennial reign "False"!

A "Rod Of Iron" is a "Tool Of Destruction" that a Potter destroys clay vessels with

Jesus returns and destroy's the wicked like a Potter destroy's his vessels with a "Rod Of Iron" its that simple

Sad part is, many have been clearly shown this truth several times, and they continue to teach error

The "Rod Of Iron" is a "Tool Of Destruction" not a "Kings Scepter" as many falsely believe and teach

Psalm 2:9KJV
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Revelation 19:15KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

Edited February 8, 2023 by truth7t7

[Diaste]

Rod of Iron is probably a metaphor for something like unbreakable. 

It's not an actual rod of iron, though it could be. 

I'm convinced it's more akin to an idiom for 'you break the rules you get punished with out exception', as in 'there will be no nonsense in My house'. 

I think we are talking about an iron clad set of expectations for behavior and an iron like will to uphold those expectations without fail.

There isn't going to be any 'squeaky wheel gets the grease' foolishness going on. 

I can't wait for that day.

[Dennis1209]

I would agree with Diaste. Our Lord will be strict regarding sin and the consequences. My Dad ruled with a rod of leather, a belt.

Isaiah 65:20 (KJV) There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

[truth7t7]

On 1/29/2023 at 1:38 AM, Diaste said:

Rod of Iron is probably a metaphor for something like unbreakable. 

It's not an actual rod of iron, though it could be. 

I'm convinced it's more akin to an idiom for 'you break the rules you get punished with out exception', as in 'there will be no nonsense in My house'. 

I think we are talking about an iron clad set of expectations for behavior and an iron like will to uphold those expectations without fail.

There isn't going to be any 'squeaky wheel gets the grease' foolishness going on. 

I can't wait for that day.

I Disagree, scripture clearly teaches a "Rod Of Iron" is a tool of destruction, that a Potter destroys clay vessels with, the scripture is clear and straightforward

Jesus Is The Lord

[Diaste]

17 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

I Disagree, scripture clearly teaches a "Rod Of Iron" is a tool of destruction, that a Potter destroys clay vessels with, the scripture is clear and straightforward

Jesus Is The Lord

As I said, "It could be." I have no doubt there will be a rod of iron in some form or another; like withholding the rain on those who do not go up to the feast of Tabernacles.

 

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

As I said, "It could be." I have no doubt there will be a rod of iron in some form or another; like withholding the rain on those who do not go up to the feast of Tabernacles.

 

The Eternal Kingdom

Zechariah 14:8KJV

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

Revelation 22:1KJV

1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

Edited January 31, 2023 by truth7t7

[AdHoc]

On 1/29/2023 at 7:25 AM, truth7t7 said:

Many falsely believe and teach "Rod Of Iron" Is a scepter to be used by Jesus Christ, to rule on this earth during a Millennial reign "False"!

A "Rod Of Iron" is a "Tool Of Destruction" that a Potter destroys clay vessels with

Jesus returns and destroy's the wicked like a Potter destroy's his vessels with a "Rod Of Iron" its that simple

Sad part is, many have been clearly shown this truth several times, and they continue to teach error

The "Rod Of Iron" is a "Tool Of Destruction" not a "Kings Scepter" as many falsely believe and teach

Psalm 2:9KJV
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Revelation 2:27KJV
27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

Revelation 19:15KJV
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

 

On 1/30/2023 at 6:03 PM, truth7t7 said:

I Disagree, scripture clearly teaches a "Rod Of Iron" is a tool of destruction, that a Potter destroys clay vessels with, the scripture is clear and straightforward

Jesus Is The Lord

 

On 1/31/2023 at 12:28 PM, truth7t7 said:

The Eternal Kingdom

Zechariah 14:8KJV

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

Revelation 22:1KJV

1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

I appreciate your fervor. Here is the reason you are mistaken.

In many posting you have denied the thousand-year Kingdom. You admit a symbolic period but refuse the literal. Well and good. But if "the end" is when Christ comes, and the "eternal state" (your terms) begins, then that means that there is but one resurrection (which you also admit). The purpose of resurrection according to 1st Corinthians 15:35-44 is that that which was corruptible and mortal must be changed to something in corruptible and immortal.

If this is so, then the sin-nature of men is paid for and set aside. That is, even though men will languish in the Lake of Fire. THEY DO NOT POSSESS the tendency to sin. This means, in turn, that ANY for of rod is NOT NECESSARY! That is why on the New Earth the Church rules (Rev.22:5) but WITHOUT violence.

But is there is a Millennium, three things will be the order of the day.
(1) The Christians will be resurrected and with their glorious bodies will sin no more
(2) Israel will have a new heart, new spirit and a New Covenant with its laws written INSIDE of them. They will not sin anymore
(3) The Nations are made of those who survived the Great Tribulation and Armageddon. They will still be in the flesh. They will hate the strict righteousness of Christ's rule. They will initially (before the lesson is learned) resist Christ's Kingdom. Added to this, they will still have children. A New generation IN THE FLESH will be raised up during the 1,000 years. They will all resist Christ's rule because the "carnal mind is at enmity with God"!

It is THEY who will need the rod of iron! A "Rod" is used in the Bible for THREE things; (I) It can be a scepter - indicating authority. (II) It can be aid to walking on stony ground. (III) It is used for "discipline". Paul was beaten with the rod a number of times. It is used by Middle Eastern shepherds to direct sheep and goats in the right direction and give the hungry wolf a devastating blow. "Iron" is unbending. It is used when rigidity is needed above strength. Thus, the "ROD OF IRON" is a type of rule where the king does not compromise on his laws. "Wolves" are swatted down into submission. Lawbreakers are met with immediate and commensurate retribution. No exceptions are allowed and this type of rule is unbending and rigid.

To sum up;

IF THERE IS A MILLENNIUM WITH SURVIVING NATIONS, A "ROD OF IRON" IS NEEDED FOR THE NATIONS IN THE FLESH

IF THERE IS NO MILLENNIUM, ALL MEN ARE RESURRECTED AND THERE IS NO NEED FOR VIOLENT RULE.

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, AdHoc said:

(3) The Nations are made of those who survived the Great Tribulation and Armageddon. They will still be in the flesh. They will hate the strict righteousness of Christ's rule.

There isn't going to be any mortal human survivors after the return of Jesus Christ as you claim, it's going to be "Fire Time" (The End)

When Jesus Christ returns its "Fire Time" (The End) as you ignore this very clear fact of scripture below "All" not "Some"

"Destroyed Them All"

Luke 17:29-30KJV

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

Edited February 8, 2023 by truth7t7

[Revelation Man]

Jesus beings just God will not slay the normal human bring when he returns, if they have dodged 3.5 years of Wrath. So, if a person went through that and still goes out and rapes someone's, he's going to die. He may die just for the thought, SMILE.

[abcdef]

If you can accept it,

The rod of iron is,

You shall love God with all your heart, mind, and soul,

you shall love your neighbor as yourself,

And you shall love as Jesus loves us.

The rod of iron cannot be bent or broken.

His rod of iron has been ruling the kingdom since the day of Pentecost.

May God have mercy on those who break His law of the Spirit of God's love.