Is the Old Testament applicable for Christians?

[JohnD]

When asked if the Old Testament is not for Messianics / Christians I reply it most certainly is!

The Old Testament contains the New Testament concealed.
The New Testament contains the Old Testament revealed.

The thing to remember about the Old Testament is that it is God's instructions for getting through this current life
given our fallen nature... along with prophetic hints and clues about the afterlife and how to get right with God
forever and ever.

All references to the scriptures in the New Testament are of the Old Testament Tanakh as the source, revelation, and authority
of the Gospel message (Acts 17:11, 2 Timothy 3:16, 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 etc).

And we can authenticate the claims of the New Testament by the established Old Testament (especially with regards to the authenticity of the Messiah Yeshua Jesus).

[FJK]

For me, the New Testament doesn't make any sense without the Old Testament.

[Selah7]

Amen.  I agree.  The Bible is ALL the Word of God.  Maybe some folks ought to dust off the front 2/3 of their Bibles …because some of the OT books, such as the book of Ezekiel and the book of Revelation, for example, actually include more prophecy than the NT.

1 Corinthians 10:11 teaches us that the physical “types” we read about in the OT happened for our admonishment—to give us a clear picture of what we can expect to happen to us spiritually in the latter days of this generation.

Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness. Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play." Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

- 1 Corinthians 10:1-11 

s e l a h

[Marathoner]

Indeed. I've expressed this in the following way:

Moses veiled his face, having witnessed the glory of the Lord (old),
But we behold the glory of the Lord (new). 
He appeared to Moses in the burning bush (old),
But He walked among us all in this flesh (new). 
YHWH, I AM (old),
God with us, Immanuel (new). 

What was veiled (hidden) in days of old is revealed during these last days in the only begotten Son of the Father, Jesus Christ. 

[Hopefully]

I agree:

“So do we destroy the law by following the way of faith? Not at all! In fact, faith causes us to be what the law actually wants.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3‬:‭31‬ ‭

[farouk]

21 hours ago, Selah7 said:

Amen.  I agree.  The Bible is ALL the Word of God.  Maybe some folks ought to dust off the front 2/3 of their Bibles …because some of the OT books, such as the book of Ezekiel and the book of Revelation, for example, actually include more prophecy than the NT.

1 Corinthians 10:11 teaches us that the physical “types” we read about in the OT happened for our admonishment—to give us a clear picture of what we can expect to happen to us spiritually in the latter days of this generation.

Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness. Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, "The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play." Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

- 1 Corinthians 10:1-11 

s e l a h

@Selah7 The OT is indeed such a precious resource. It's interesting that in the accounts of the institution of the Lord's Supper the word 'new' is used by the Lord Jesus, indicating a state of affairs which differs from that of Israel in the OT.

[other one]

If all a person has is the New Testament can he see Jesus, make him his/her Lord, and be born again (saved)?

[farouk]

22 minutes ago, other one said:

If all a person has is the New Testament can he see Jesus, make him his/her Lord, and be born again (saved)?

The NT has so many quotes from the OT - Hebrews, for example - but the Epistle shows how in Christ all is "better" than anything under the Old Economy.

[Alive]

What scripture do you suppose Paul had in mind when he penned the following?

2Tim. 3:16 (NAS20S) All Scripture is inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness;

[Sower]

1 hour ago, other one said:

If all a person has is the New Testament can he see Jesus, make him his/her Lord, and be born again (saved)?

Salvation is by grace through faith. Faith comes by hearing the word. Or feeling the word as Helen Keller.
One could memorize the whole bible and never believe. It's child like faith, completely available in the new testament.

One does not need any bible, new or old testament, KJV or NIV etc to believe. Just know the truth/light of the gospel.
We are spoiled, because for centuries there was no bibles, new or old testament available, just 'words' passed on.

When we get to heaven we can ask the thief what he had to believe to get to paradise.....

Faith.