Test the Spirits,can Christians be deceived? ( Lets study this together with situations from our own life..

[other one]

41 minutes ago, angels4u said:

Other One,this is not the link I posted ,can't see any occult or dark about it,are you talking about the link I posted?https://evangelicaldarkweb.org/2023/01/28/why-andy-stanley-is-a-false-teacher/

Thanks for the explanation of this  dark and evil web, I had no clue, I heard about it but never checked it out,it doesn't refer to the link I posted ( I hope)

Most have been scary when you were exposed to it

No, just the terms in general.   It seems this site thinks Andy Stanley is not teaching the Bible so it considers what he is teaching is from the dark side or dark web.

[existential mabel]

22 hours ago, angels4u said:

There are some very good preachers to follow online!

Jack Hibbs is on of my favorite speakers who speaks up for truth and who's church is not compromising.

Mabel,God is not done with any of us yet ,as long as we're on earth He will be molding us and every time we read the Bible we see things we didn't see before...

yes Jack Hibbs..and as you say reading the bible i have a better understanding

[angels4u]

On 5/5/2023 at 5:46 PM, other one said:

True, but do those people really have a relationship with the Holy Spirit.   Are they really saved Christians?

Absolutely,only God knows the heart..

[ChristB4us]

On 5/5/2023 at 7:55 AM, angels4u said:

Test the Spirits,can Christians be deceived?

They absolutely can,we're living as in the days of Noah and the enemy has not giving up on deceiving people and of course mostly Christians ,they're hindering his work,we have to be so careful to who we listen and who to believe,the enemy knows his time is getting very short and he's on a lease.

Do you know that deceiving is rampant in churches these days?

How can Christians be deceived?

Maybe we should look together to what the Bible is saying about this topic and help each other to realize which belongs to God and what the enemy is doing to destroy God word ( if he could...

The time draws near~

There is another way that false prophets can lead many astray by and that is by doing signs and wonders.

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

1 Timothy 4:1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

2 Thessalonians 2:1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first,...

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

Verses 13-15 is a reminder of the tradition taught of us in exposing that lie in verses 9-12 of believers going astray by looking to receive the Holy Spirit by another way like by a sign other than by preaching the cross.

How you and other members apply this with the Lord's help, is up to Him, but since we believe we are in the last days and Jesus is coming back soon, where is this kind of massive falling away from the faith where signs and wonders are deceiving if possible, the very elect?

May God be peradventuring to recover some from this snare of the devil also.

Edited May 8, 2023 by ChristB4us

[R. Hartono]

On 5/5/2023 at 6:55 PM, angels4u said:

Test the Spirits,can Christians be deceived?

They absolutely can,we're living as in the days of Noah and the enemy has not giving up on deceiving people and of course mostly Christians ,they're hindering his work,we have to be so careful to who we listen and who to believe,the enemy knows his time is getting very short and he's on a lease.

Do you know that deceiving is rampant in churches these days?

How can Christians be deceived?

Maybe we should look together to what the Bible is saying about this topic and help each other to realize which belongs to God and what the enemy is doing to destroy God word ( if he could...

The time draws near~

I tried several Times to post short video of deception in churches at christian forum, they always delete it with reason : attacking church and destroying.

[angels4u]

5 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

I tried several Times to post short video of deception in churches at christian forum, they always delete it with reason : attacking church and destroying.

I was not aware of you trying to post some video's as I wasn't  much lately on Worthy for health reasons,we have to be so careful,walk the narrow road and test the spirits by the the word of God.Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. 2 Thess:2-3

 

[Keturah 123]

 The enemy wears masks to deceive, being the father of lies and can transform into an angel of light.......speaking half truths ...just enough to suck folks in!

We must be fully armoured by the word of God or we will be deceived !!!

[LiveWire]

On 5/7/2023 at 9:34 AM, ChristB4us said:

There is another way that false prophets can lead many astray by and that is by doing signs and wonders.

They still have to be Possessed by something to have power to exemplify Signs and Wonders.  Anyone who is in God and God is in them will feel through Discernment before a hair has a chance to split 10 ways concerning what they are.

People make Wolves seems so powerful.   Challenge them.   Grow some hair in places where it's fallen off over time and challenge these people.   They will fall faster than someone who thinks the Completed Bible is the 
Perfect to Come!

[ChristB4us]

On 5/7/2023 at 9:17 AM, angels4u said:

Absolutely,only God knows the heart..

Our hearts is not always good place for any one to have assurance for good standing with God in, for God knowing, even though He does know our hearts.  

Matthew 15:18 But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. 19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: 20 These are the things which defile a man:

Sometimes because of the wickedness of our hearts and sinful flesh, the devil wish to condemn us to give up our hope in Jesus Christ for all things including ceasing from sin.

Good thing He knows how and when our hearts and our spirits are broken that by His words, we know He cares.

Psalm 34:18The Lord is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.

Psalm 51:14The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

1 John 3:19 And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. 20 For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things. 21 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God.

Romans 8:31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? 32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? 33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. 34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

That also goes for saved believers found in iniquity that get left behind as He will finish His work in them too as vessels unto dishonor in His House, vessels of wood and earth, to serve the king of kings on earth after the great tribulation.

 

[ChristB4us]

15 minutes ago, LiveWire said:

They still have to be Possessed by something to have power to exemplify Signs and Wonders.  Anyone who is in God and God is in them will feel through Discernment before a hair has a chance to split 10 ways concerning what they are.

People make Wolves seems so powerful.   Challenge them.   Grow some hair in places where it's fallen off over time and challenge these people.   They will fall faster than someone who thinks the Completed Bible is the 
Perfect to Come!

If a saved believer or even a sinner was led to believe they can receive the Holy Spirit by a sign as in with evidence of tongues rather than come to and believe in Jesus Christ at the calling of the gospel, they would be committing spiritual adultery.

Matthew 12:38 Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

It was claimed that the Pentecostal/Charismatic churches sprang from the Azusa Stret Revival that had its emphasis on the baptism with the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues.  Yet Jesus's words in Matthew 12:38-40 would judge it as an apostate calling for how many are committing spiritual fornication & adultery.

In today's events, tongues speakers for private use will condemn holy laughter, slain in the spirit, and being drunk in the spirit as not of God and yet those phenomenon were also at Azusa street Revival from where tongues for private use sprang from.  So what was condemned by tongue users today as not of the Lord because of God not being the author of confusion, how can tongues without interpretation and thus assumed for private use, not be judged the same?