THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO KNOW IS JESUS

[TheBlade]

On 8/9/2023 at 11:13 PM, Stan Murff said:

Does this mean you are sin free now and never doing anything that is sinful ,at all?

I was reading some stuff about someone that claimed they don't sin and all the other people were claiming he was a false christian for claiming that 

Apparently it's widely accepted that all people were born sinners and nobody can stop sinning.  I'm seeing a lot of people saying this is true

Hi.. so you've bounced around long enough what is it you believe? Jesus son of God came in the flesh .. this ones a given what do you believe about sin? You've read about what others say here and there great what do you believe. 

[Vine Abider]

2 hours ago, Stan Murff said:

I don't need a big fancy mansion so as long as I'm not losing THE reward of going to heaven, than I'm all good.

Carry on then! 

BTW - "mansion" as it is translated in some versions like KJV is actually better rendered "abode" or "dwelling." According to Ephesians 2:19-22 and John 14:23 we are an abode, a dwelling place of God in spirit. Therefore the traditional thought of some big, white, palatial southern style mansion is probably a little off.

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

Ha ha you guys!

If we were all born sinners and we can't help but sin every day and Jesus has forgiven all sins past present and future, then what's the problem?

You can't say on one hand all sin has already been forgiven and then turn around and say your born a sinner, you can't help but sin, and then say you're supposed to not sin.

You are contradicting yourself by saying one thing and then turning around and opposing what you just said!

[other one]

4 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

Ha ha you guys!

If we were all born sinners and we can't help but sin every day and Jesus has forgiven all sins past present and future, then what's the problem?

You can't say on one hand all sin has already been forgiven and then turn around and say your born a sinner, you can't help but sin, and then say you're supposed to not sin.

You are contradicting yourself by saying one thing and then turning around and opposing what you just said!

26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, “Vengeance is mine; I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge his people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

[Vine Abider]

17 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

Ha ha you guys!

If we were all born sinners and we can't help but sin every day and Jesus has forgiven all sins past present and future, then what's the problem?

You can't say on one hand all sin has already been forgiven and then turn around and say your born a sinner, you can't help but sin, and then say you're supposed to not sin.

You are contradicting yourself by saying one thing and then turning around and opposing what you just said!

 

11 minutes ago, other one said:

26 For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. 28 Anyone who has set aside the law of Moses dies without mercy on the evidence of two or three witnesses. 29 How much worse punishment, do you think, will be deserved by the one who has trampled underfoot the Son of God, and has profaned the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified, and has outraged the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him who said, “Vengeance is mine; I will repay.” And again, “The Lord will judge his people.” 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

And this is a great passage in Hebrews 10 which illustrates that there are consequences for not living according to Christ after being saved! The Hebrew believers were warned a number of times in this book - this shows that God does not take things a believer (His child) does lightly!

So again, while Jesus paid a very high price for all sins, and those who accept His free gift are forgiven, it is what we do now with the grace and life we've been given - will we live by Him in us or by our sinful flesh?  There is accountability, rewards and very uncomfortable consequences of not allowing His life to grow in us! 

[Neighbor]

On 8/6/2023 at 2:10 PM, Stan Murff said:

Once we get saved, we can't ever lose that right? 

I've always heard that our actions in this life cannot cause us to to not be saved because Jesus paid for all our sins including the future sins we might commit.

You have heard wrong. 

[Neighbor]

On 8/5/2023 at 6:01 PM, backontrack said:

The rest is left up to us live for him or against him. Romans 8:31 

End result choose life or death eternal for ever.

No it is not. 

[Neighbor]

"THE ONLY THING WE NEED TO KNOW IS JESUS"

No, not so. It is  insufficient for me to isolate Yeshua, His atonement for my sin against God, to a casual just know Jesus statement.

Romans 8:31 is  one line of a very lengthy letter covering a series of answers to questions that had likely been asked of rabbi Paul. The immediate three lines preceding what a man has numbered as 8:31 tells a very different tale than it is up to us to then decide on anything.

Romans 8  of that lengthy letter, as it has been divided up into  chapters later on by a man, not by inspiration of God, is a transitional portion of the letter leading to an explanation of God's plan  for Israel. That plan has been,  divided up by a man into chapters 9, 10 , and 11.

Just knowing Jesus has no redeeming value for demons. They know him. 

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

6 hours ago, Neighbor said:

You have heard wrong. 

Looks like many of the forum here say you are wrong.

[Neighbor]

16 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

Looks like many of the forum here say you are wrong.

Oh I am sure of that too. Again opinions are not worth a hoot when held up to the word of God the Bible along with understanding of it that comes through one's own prayer about it with one's own  reading of it, the thinking over what has been read and then more prayer  over it.