Only Those Who Pass Through GT are Resurrected or Gathered.

[Uriah]

9 hours ago, Diaste said:

Because I hear some define ' those who are Christ's at His coming' as everyone who died believing in Christ from Adam to the 2nd coming. 

What I see is, and who I see are:

"“These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

"And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years."

In this case it's a specific group of people. 

I know that Paul says, 'the dead in Christ will rise first', but in light of the above prophecy in Revelation it's defined as the dead in Christ from a very specific time; the rest wait till the 1000 years are over.

If it is everyone in Christ from Adam to the 2nd coming resurrected at His 2nd coming, I would very much like to see the evidence. 

 

1 Cor 15:22- For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

1 Cor 15:23- But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (parousia)

 

Rom 11:24- For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree,...

Rom 11:28- As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs,

 

Eph 2:15- Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new  man, so making peace;

Eph 2:16- And  he mightthat reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby

Eph 2:19- Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but are no more  strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens  with the saints, and of the household of God

 

Heb 3:5- And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;

Heb 3:6- But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. (context:entire chapter-all O.T. saints)

 

Heb 11:39- And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not  the promise: (v.35-context: resurrection)

Heb 11:40- since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect. (summary:resurrection O. T. saints and us TOGETHER)  

 

Edited October 9, 2023 by Uriah

[Diaste]

15 hours ago, Uriah said:

1 Cor 15:22- For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

1 Cor 15:23- But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (parousia)

 

Rom 11:24- For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree,...

Rom 11:28- As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs,

 

Eph 2:15- Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new  man, so making peace;

Eph 2:16- And  he mightthat reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby

Eph 2:19- Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but are no more  strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens  with the saints, and of the household of God

 

Heb 3:5- And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;

Heb 3:6- But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. (context:entire chapter-all O.T. saints)

 

Heb 11:39- And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not  the promise: (v.35-context: resurrection)

Heb 11:40- since God had planned something better for us so that only together with us would they be made perfect. (summary:resurrection O. T. saints and us TOGETHER)  

 

Yep, I get all that. "When?" is what I'm asking.

I'm not saying that all believers in Christ are not resurrected and translated into the kingdom. I'm saying scripture depicts a specific group resurrected at the time Jesus returns. The group is described as having come out from within GT or having faced the power and authority of the beast, and they live and reign with Jesus for 1000 years.

That's the primary resurrection. Everyone not in the primary resurrection waits 1000 years after Jesus returns. 

In Rev 7 this group that comes out from within GT is shown about the throne, clearly pure and holy, having washed their robes in the blood of the Lamb.

In Rev 20 it is said the group in v. 4 was beheaded for their testimony and also refused the mark and the image. This group is said to live and reign with Jesus for 1000 years.

So where is the group that did not take part in the GT, and did not face the beast's power and authority, shown in heaven about the throne or living and reigning with Christ for 1000 years? 

This is a very large group, in the billions, consisting of all believers of all time from Adam to the 2nd coming and should be noticeable somewhere in scripture.

Edited October 10, 2023 by Diaste

[Uriah]

1 Cor 15:22- For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

1 Cor 15:23- But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (parousia)

4 hours ago, Diaste said:

I'm saying scripture depicts a specific group resurrected at the time Jesus returns

Firstly, do you believe/deny the words above?

I once used an example like this;

I went to the stadium for the big game. I saw the quarterback, the refs, the the entire team and cheerleaders.

The above sentence is proof that all the seats were empty, right?

To use one sentence and pull out an argument from silence makes the bible itself or it's writers suborning falsehood/private interpretation.

 

1Co 15:51- Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

1Co 15:52-In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

No need to add to what it says, we need to BELIEVE the scriptures.

The scriptures don't contradict themselves. 

 

[Diaste]

18 hours ago, Uriah said:

1 Cor 15:22- For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

1 Cor 15:23- But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. (parousia)

Firstly, do you believe/deny the words above?

I do.

18 hours ago, Uriah said:

I once used an example like this;

I went to the stadium for the big game. I saw the quarterback, the refs, the the entire team and cheerleaders.

The above sentence is proof that all the seats were empty, right?

To use one sentence and pull out an argument from silence makes the bible itself or it's writers suborning falsehood/private interpretation.

I'm not adding what isn't there, that's the argument from silence. I'm saying, "The text doesn't forbid it, therefore it's true." I'm not filling a gap, I'm offering positive evidence of a scenario described in exact words. Consider the passage in question in Rev 7, 

13Then one of the elders addressed me: “These in white robes,” he asked, “who are they, and where have they come from?”

14“Sir,” I answered, “you know.”

So he replied, “These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

This is specific to Whom, 'these in white robes', Where, 'standing before the throne and the Lamb' and When and also Where, 'from out of the great tribulation'. 

If we are to apply 1 Cor 15:22 to this group, wouldn't 'all' include 'all'? In 1 Cor 15:22 there is no distinction made on just who this 'all' is. All in Adam died. That would be everyone that ever died since death on all people came through Adam. Then the same 'all' as in 'all in Christ made alive' will also be everyone who ever died.

In that context Paul is speaking about every person who ever lived when he says, 'as ALL in Adam die', not just believers. We can't then make the distinction it's only believers that will be made alive when Paul immediately says, 'ALL in Christ will be made alive'. 

This is borne out by Rev 20:

'The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. '

'And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne.'

'The sea gave up its dead, and Death and Hades gave up their dead'

As we know the resurrection is only possible because Jesus was resurrected. The dead who are judged are resurrected in the power and authority of Jesus Christ, there is no other way to be resurrected apart from His authority.

The point being, everyone will live again at some point in time, that's assured. 

But Whom? And When?

So even though all will be raised up at some time, I only see from the positive evidence contained in Rev 7 and Rev 20 it's those who came out of GT and who faced the beast that are resurrected at the 2nd coming.

There is no one else mentioned. The text is silent on any other group at that specific time and place. I cannot say something like, "Well, another group isn't mentioned, but they are there all the same." when the text is that specific.

 

18 hours ago, Uriah said:

 

1Co 15:51- Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,

1Co 15:52-In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

No need to add to what it says, we need to BELIEVE the scriptures.

The scriptures don't contradict themselves. 

 

But the context here has shifted, hasn't it? Paul says,

"Now I declare to you, brothers,"

What comes after this is for the specific group of brothers, not all flesh as before when Paul used general terms encompassing all people. Even in that, this passage everyone so loves from 1 Cor 15:50-58 is not immune from other facts about the resurrection at the 2nd coming. 

I can't say that Rev 7:11-14 and Rev 20:4 are minor facts about the resurrection of the saints that can somehow be overcome but other NT passages. The two sets of facts have to be merged. 

Yes there will be a resurrection. Yes, all in that resurrection will be changed from mortal to immortal. Yes, the resurrected ones at the coming of Jesus will be those that are Christ's. Yes, those resurrected, changed and belonging to Christ come from out of GT and faced the beast. 

There is nothing contradictory in that. It's a clarification using all the given evidence of the text about the primary resurrection of the elect saints at the 2nd Coming. 

Are there others in that group as described in Rev 7:11-14? The text is silent on that and so I cannot add to it no matter how personally uncomfortable.

Would this mean no other resurrection of a group or persons could never occur? Absolutely not. The Rev 20 resurrection is the chief resurrection, not the only one. God and Jesus can and do resurrect and/or translate to heaven any they wish, at any time. There is a lot of  witness to that truth.

But when the end begins and is brought to a close, the only ones I see in the primary resurrection come from GT and have faced the beast.

 

 

[Uriah]

14 hours ago, Diaste said:

I'm not adding what isn't there, that's the argument from silence

Nor am I. Taking something away is also a mechanism of an argument from silence.

 

14 hours ago, Diaste said:

"The text doesn't forbid it, therefore it's true."

I know. The text I posted declares it directly. 

 

14 hours ago, Diaste said:

There is nothing contradictory in that.

14 hours ago, Diaste said:

I'm offering positive evidence of a scenario described in exact words

So am I.

 

14 hours ago, Diaste said:

This is specific to Whom, 'these in white robes', Where, 'standing before the throne and the Lamb' and When and also Where, 'from out of the great tribulation'. 

Paul was quite specific as well. 

So it says "at His coming"..."ALL"  If only some are in view, it will NOT be "ALL"! Gas-lighting going on? Nope...Can both be true? Absolutely!

14 hours ago, Diaste said:

But Whom? And When?

That has been answered.

14 hours ago, Diaste said:

There is nothing contradictory in that.

Look again at, "ALL." 

14 hours ago, Diaste said:

Are there others in that group as described in Rev 7:11-14? The text is silent on that and so I cannot add to it no matter how personally uncomfortable.

Paul is not silent. You cannot dismiss other scriptures.

14 hours ago, Diaste said:

the only ones I see in the primary resurrection come from GT and have faced the beast.

Its not the only ones I see. Paul declared that ALL will be resurrected at His coming. 

[Diaste]

8 hours ago, Uriah said:

Nor am I. Taking something away is also a mechanism of an argument from silence.

If it isn't there to begin with....

8 hours ago, Uriah said:

So am I.

Yes. Where I am is reconciling all the facts about the specific event of the resurrection at the 2nd coming and whom is resurrected and caught up, and when.

If it's true that every believer in Christ from Adam to the 2nd coming is taken out of the grave at that time, that group would be vast, in the billions. There are 2 billion Christians living on the earth today. 

I do not see this group described anywhere in scripture.

In contrast, we see in Rev 7 a vast group described as coming out from within GT.

We also see in Rev 20 the group that lives and reigns with Christ for 1000 years described as having specific attributes and behavior: Beheaded for Christ, refusal to worship the beast or it's image, refusal to take the mark, coming to life to live with Christ.

So I can't add any other group to the above since no other group of people is said to be about the throne or living with Christ except for those coming out from within GT and having faced down the beast's power and authority; at the time of Christ's 2nd coming.

So then, how does one reconcile the idea of 'all' with what is said above? 

I used to farm. When harvest was over we had 'all' the crops harvested. We did not do it at the same moment, nor on the same day, or even in the same month. It was an ongoing process sometimes even delayed for a time. 

In the end we did get it 'all' in the barns and storage.

With alfalfa there were two harvests, early and late in the year, sometimes even three times. Got it all, just not at the same time.

This is the same as the harvest at the end. Jesus is going to raise up 'all', doesn't necessarily have to be at the same moment.

It's clear this is the case with the two great resurrections. 

The primary resurrection comes first, then the 2nd resurrection.

From the sheep and goats judgement of Matt 25 we see both believers and unbelievers resurrected and living at the judgement. I cannot suggest the sheep and goats judgment happens at the 2nd coming, nor can I speculate that when Paul says 'all' in 1 Cor 15:51 that he means 'all' as in both unbelievers and believers raised up at the 2nd coming.

 

8 hours ago, Uriah said:

 

Paul was quite specific as well. 

So it says "at His coming"..."ALL"  If only some are in view, it will NOT be "ALL"! Gas-lighting going on? Nope...Can both be true? Absolutely!

Yes, but no truth of this time throughout all of scripture can be shunted aside but instead must be combined to arrive at a complete conclusion that fits every relevant fact. 

Both can be true, I agree. 

But if it is true as you and many others hold; where is the depiction of this great group resurrected and in heaven about the throne with God and Lamb? 

There is a group depicted as coming out of a single time period, the GT. There is a group living and reigning with Christ for 1000 years that faced down the beast, where is this other group resurrected from all time depicted? 

The answer is, at the 2nd resurrection. ALL will be resurrected, just not all at the same time. 

 

8 hours ago, Uriah said:

Paul is not silent. You cannot dismiss other scriptures.

The text is dead silent on the idea that all from Adam to the 2nd coming are resurrected at the same time. There are several portions of prophecy about the 2nd coming resurrection that contradict the idea that every person believing in Jesus from all time is resurrected at the 2nd coming.

Everyone is resurrected, just not all at the same time.

8 hours ago, Uriah said:

Its not the only ones I see. Paul declared that ALL will be resurrected at His coming. 

No. That's not what Paul is saying. That would contradict Rev 7:11-14 and Rev 20:4. If Paul was saying that it would add a very large group that did not come out from within GT.

I'm quite certain these people are not resurrected at the 2nd coming:

 32All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate the people one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. 33He will place the sheep on His right and the goats on His left.

34Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. 35For I was hungry and you gave Me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me something to drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in, 36I was naked and you clothed Me, I was sick and you looked after Me, I was in prison and you visited Me.’

Nor are these:

Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from Me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave Me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not take Me in, I was naked and you did not clothe Me, I was sick and in prison and you did not visit Me.’

44And they too will reply, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’

45Then the King will answer, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for Me.’

46And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”

Nor are these:

21Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’

23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’

Yet all of the above are resurrected with some entering eternal life and other others well, not so much.

For ALL to be resurrected, they just have to be resurrected and nothing in scripture demands 'all' means 'all at the same time'.

[Uriah]

15 hours ago, Diaste said:

If it isn't there to begin with....

But there is more than one verse on the matter.

The mechanism of an argument from silence is to say that because it doesn't say something in a particular sentence, it IS saying what I say.

15 hours ago, Diaste said:

I do not see this group described anywhere in scripture.

But I posted it more than once! 

15 hours ago, Diaste said:

Yes. Where I am is reconciling all the facts about the specific event of the resurrection at the 2nd coming and whom is resurrected and caught up, and when.

I am too.

1 Thes 4:13-  But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

1 Th 4:14- For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

1Th 4:15- For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

1 Thes 4:16- For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Is Paul gaslighting us? Is God? Secret interpretation? NO! There is a general resurrection and rapture at His coming.

15 hours ago, Diaste said:

So I can't add any other group to the above since no other group of people is said to be about the throne or living with Christ except for those coming out from within GT and having faced down the beast's power and authority; at the time of Christ's 2nd coming.

But you cannot dismiss other scripture on the matter.

15 hours ago, Diaste said:

No. That's not what Paul is saying. That would contradict Rev 7:11-14 and Rev 20:4. If Paul was saying that it would add a very large group that did not come out from within GT.

How can you Paul is not saying that. ALL resurrected would INCLUDE those in Rev. 20:4!

15 hours ago, Diaste said:

The text is dead silent on the idea that all from Adam to the 2nd coming are resurrected at the same time. There are several portions of prophecy about the 2nd coming resurrection that contradict the idea that every person believing in Jesus from all time is resurrected at the 2nd coming.

No it isn't.

Job 19:25- For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:

Job 19:26- And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God: 

Job is resurrected at the time when his redeemer stands on the earth.

 

Is 26:19- Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.

Is 26:20- Come, my people, enter your chambers, And shut your doors behind you;
Hide yourself, as it were, for a little moment, until the indignation is past.

Is 26:21- See, the LORD is coming out of his dwelling to punish the people of the earth for their sins. The earth will disclose the blood shed on it; the earth will conceal its slain no longer.

 

Rev 11:18- And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small  and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

 

And this,

Dan 12:1- “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people everyone whose name is found written in the book will be delivered.

Dan 12:2- Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

The resurrection happens when it is the worst time in history. Second coming! It's a match to Mat 25 which you posted.

But you chose to leave the first verse of the passage out;

Mat 25:31- When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne

THAT is WHEN people are from all nations are allowed to enter into "life eternal" and others are damned.

 

 

 

Edited October 13, 2023 by Uriah
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[Retrobyter]

Shalom, @Diaste et al.

Actually, one must understand the REASON why people are resurrected at Yeeshuwa`s coming! He is gathering all those "WHO BELONG TO HIM" (1 Cor. 15:23) FOR HIS KINGDOM, not to "take them to Heaven!" 

Remember Yeeshuwa`s words in one of His last parables:

Luke 19:11-27 (KJV)

11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear. 12 He said therefore,

"A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return. 13 And he called his ten servants, and delivered them ten pounds, and said unto them,

"'Occupy (Trade) till I come.'

14 "But his citizens hated him, and sent a message after him, saying,

"'We will NOT have this man to reign over us!'

15 "And it came to pass, that when he was returned, having received the kingdom, then he commanded these servants to be called unto him, to whom he had given the money, that he might know how much every man had gained by trading. 16 Then came the first, saying,

"'Lord, thy pound hath gained ten pounds.'

17 "And he said unto him,

"'Well, thou good servant: because thou hast been faithful in a very little, have thou authority over ten cities.'

18 "And the second came, saying,

"'Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds.'

19 "And he said likewise to him,

"'Be thou also over five cities.'

20 "And another came, saying,

"'Lord, behold, here is thy pound, which I have kept laid up in a napkin: 21 For I feared thee, because thou art an austere man: thou takest up that thou layedst not down, and reapest that thou didst not sow.'

22 "And he saith unto him,

"'Out of thine own mouth will I judge thee, thou wicked servant. Thou KNEWEST that I was an austere man, taking up that I laid not down, and reaping that I did not sow: 23 Wherefore then gavest not thou my money into the bank, that at my coming I might have required mine own with usury?'

24 "And he said unto them that stood by,

"'Take from him the pound, and give it to him that hath ten pounds.'

25" (And they said unto him,

"'Lord, he HATH ten pounds!')

26 "'For I say unto you, That unto every one which hath shall be given; and from him that hath not, even that he hath shall be taken away from him. 27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and SLAY them before me!' "

Can one follow the logic? It's not the Resurrection that determines a person's standing within the Kingdom; it's what happens AFTER the Resurrection! How do they "measure up" in the eyes of the Messiah to be King?!

Edited October 12, 2023 by Retrobyter
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[FreeGrace]

On 9/1/2023 at 5:35 AM, Diaste said:

Rev 11

After this I looked and saw a multitude too large to count, from every nation and tribe and people and tongue, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and holding palm branches in their hands. 10And they cried out in a loud voice:

“Salvation to our God,

who sits on the throne,

and to the Lamb!”

11And all the angels stood around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. And they fell facedown before the throne and worshiped God, 12saying, “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanks and honor and power and strength be to our God forever and ever! Amen.”

13Then one of the elders addressed me: “These in white robes,” he asked, “who are they, and where have they come from?”

14“Sir,” I answered, “you know.”

So he replied, “These are the ones who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 

Rev 20

 

And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image, and had not received its mark on their foreheads or hands. And they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.

5The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were complete. 

Face the beast, live and reign with Christ.

Don't face the beast, wait till the 2nd resurrection. 

[One exception]

The title of this thread is not found in Scripture.  ALL believers from ALL time will be resurrected at the Second Advent.

1 Cor 15:23 - But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

This verses that Jesus Christ is the FIRST person to receive a glorified immortal resurrection body.  'firstfruits' is the term.

Heb 9:28 -  so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

This verse is about the Second Advent (appear a second time).  So every mention of "the coming of Christ" is a direct reference to the Second Advent.  This verse proves that the singular resurrection of ALL believers will be at the Second Advent per "when He comes".

The last phrase "those who belong to Him" refers to every believer in the history of mankind.

Or, please prove from Scripture any group of saved people who don't "belong to Him".

[Retrobyter]

22 minutes ago, FreeGrace said:

The title of this thread is not found in Scripture.  ALL believers from ALL time will be resurrected at the Second Advent.

1 Cor 15:23 - But each in turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

This verses that Jesus Christ is the FIRST person to receive a glorified immortal resurrection body.  'firstfruits' is the term.

Heb 9:28 -  so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.

This verse is about the Second Advent (appear a second time).  So every mention of "the coming of Christ" is a direct reference to the Second Advent.  This verse proves that the singular resurrection of ALL believers will be at the Second Advent per "when He comes".

The last phrase "those who belong to Him" refers to every believer in the history of mankind.

Or, please prove from Scripture any group of saved people who don't "belong to Him".

Shalom, FreeGrace.

All of this is true. However, one shouldn't forget that there is a THIRD Resurrection mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15:20-28. Verse numbers can sometimes just get in the way of understanding.

1 Corinthians 15:23-28 (KJV, rearranged and numbered for clarity)

23 But every man in his own order:

(0) Christ the firstfruits;
(1) afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 24
(2) Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 

25 For he (Christ) must reign, till he (God) hath put all enemies under his (Christ's) feet. 26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. 27 For he (G0d) hath put all things under his (Christ's) feet. [But when he saith, "all things are put under him," it is manifest (obvious) that "he" (God) is excepted, which did put all things under him (Christ).] 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto him (Christ the Son), then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him (God the Father) that put all things under him (Christ), that God may be all in all.