Our default is the spirit (not the flesh)!

[Starise]

23 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

When you say outside the church I assume you mean outside gatherings. These days I am aware of so many passages that are telling us just to remain or abide in what is true. So practically speaking that means we do need to be turning to Him, praying and calling on his name while we are not in the gatherings or with other believers.

Also having his word in our heart and speaking His word I think are good ways to just let what already is true saturate our thinking more and more. This way our minds are renewed daily to experience walking in the reality that is from him.

I guess the plural goes away out in the field, yet we are never alone.

[Marathoner]

We always walk in the Spirit, serving the Lord all day long no matter where we happen to be or what we happen to be doing. Why?

The Lord dwells with us, and we dwell with Him.  

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

On 9/13/2023 at 9:21 AM, Neighbor said:

Perhaps our ( Christians) default is one of conflict, conflict between flesh and spirit.

We could make a quality decision to put away the desires of the flesh by the power of God's Word and the Holy Spirit within and quit being in conflict!

Galatians 5:16
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Quality Decision = a decision about which there
is NO debate, from which there is NO retreat.

It's not for sissies and Sunday morning quarterbacks!



 

[Your closest friendnt]

3 hours ago, Stan Murff said:

We could make a quality decision to put away the desires of the flesh by the power of God's Word and the Holy Spirit within and quit being in conflict!

Galatians 5:16
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.

Quality Decision = a decision about which there
is NO debate, from which there is NO retreat.

It's not for sissies and Sunday morning quarterbacks!



 

You make a point, and we should discern the good decision from the not so good when we are call to do that.

But we are not 100% healthy when we find our selves in that cross road...Jesus accepted us as we were...with all the afflictions of body mind and Spirit.

And he won't put a heavy burden on any one to asked them to be someone they are not ready to be. It took a long time to be in the place he finds us and he knows that it can take some time to shape us in the same way some other people are but he does not have to wait for that time to quide us by the Holy Spirit. 

We have examples where people who had not believe yet were quided and follow the Holy Spirit as was the Aithiopian Man who met Philip in the dessert. At that time he did not know that the Holy Spirit quided him to Philip who was waiting for him to pass by.

We must understand that the Spirit of the world can quide believers in considering the things of the world. And how much more the Holy Spirit can influence the thoughts and actions of believers who live in the world and many other people who are in the world including no believers.

Edited September 15, 2023 by Your closest friendnt

[Your closest friendnt]

On 9/14/2023 at 3:36 PM, Marathoner said:

We always walk in the Spirit, serving the Lord all day long no matter where we happen to be or what we happen to be doing. Why?

The Lord dwells with us, and we dwell with Him.  

This is truth for those who are dedicated in the work the Lord has entrusted them, and whom Jesus love. The very mature ones. 

But there are times He let us be on our own. He let us be the decision makers and he let us be the light to others. 

There times that we need to be tested...he let us on our own...would we get angry, would we let anger rule over our thoughts and words and our actions? 

Jesus said the Father loves me and whatever I ask he will do it. 

And as we needed other people at the beginning to guide us he make us quide other people because this what they need to be quided by others...that's why he gave us Pastors. Till the time we learn to discern his voice and his quidance and we are not in doubt. If that happens.

Also we can be quided by the Holy Spirit without us being consious about that and he can do that to others even to none believes...he can bring them to us, he can put them in our path, just like he put the Aithiopian Man in the path of Philip. 

 

Edited September 15, 2023 by Your closest friendnt

[Duck]

18 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

You make a point, and we should discern the good decision from the not so good when we are call to do that.

But we are not 100% healthy when we find our selves in that cross road...Jesus accepted us as we were...with all the afflictions of body mind and Spirit.

And he won't put a heavy burden on any one to asked them to be someone they are not ready to be. It took a long time to be in the place he finds us and he knows that it can take some time to shape us in the same way some other people are but he does not have to wait for that time to quide us by the Holy Spirit. 

We have examples where people who had not believe yet were quided and follow the Holy Spirit as was the Aithiopian Man who met Philip in the dessert. At that time he did not know that the Holy Spirit quided him to Philip who was waiting for him to pass by.

We must understand that the Spirit of the world can quide believers in considering the things of the world. And how much more the Holy Spirit can influence the thoughts and actions of believers who live in the world and many other people who are in the world including no believers.

The H.S guided Philip to the eunich, who was on his way home from worshipping God in Jerusalem 

Jesus chose the disciples 'as they were'...(although they were already searching for Him).but they weren't the same around three years later. Jesus' Spirit had transformed them.

Us Christians can't excuse ourselves for being as we were. We need to mature.

Edited September 15, 2023 by Duck

[Know Jah]

As sinners our default is fleshly not spiritual. Rom 5:12.

 

[SpiritSong]

4 hours ago, Know Jah said:

As sinners our default is fleshly not spiritual. Rom 5:12.

 

Aren't we supposed to be new creations?

[Duck]

22 minutes ago, SpiritSong said:

Aren't we supposed to be new creations?

Bingo!

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

29 minutes ago, SpiritSong said:

Aren't we supposed to be new creations?

Those that have been born again are.

2 Corinthians 5:17
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Those that claim the flesh is the default have no understanding of what a Christian even is are are deceived.

Romans 8:13,14
For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.
For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

James 1:22-25
But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer, he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a glass:
For he beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.
But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work, this man shall be blessed in his deed.