The top reasons why the Anti-Christ can not rule the Whole World

[Revelation Man]

Lets face it, we were all taught that the Anti-Christ/Little Horn/Beast will rule the whole world and that there will therefore be a One World Government (OWG) and a one world currency. After hearing two non believers (Joe Rogan and a guest) discuss the Mark of the Beast and how the digital currency is making Rev. 13 seam real (and they then read from Rev. 13 on air) and how this "whole OWG" could be feasible, I had a thought, why not do a thread explaining why this OWG can not be a factual understanding and giving a list of reasons why. I also want to use logic here guys. So lets take Jesus' Ministry on earth and look at what he did in this equation.

Jesus came only unto Israel, his Ministry lasted 3 years or so (Never thought about this until now, but the A.C. has a 3.5 years reign hmm) Jesus did not try to reach the whole world, he left that for his followers to accomplish. Reaching the whole world in his lifetime was just not a feasible plan. Likewise, the Anti-Christ has one job, unlike Jesus which was to become the Lamb for mankind's redemption, the A.C. one job is to make sure he can prove God to be in error, thus infallible, thus not "God" he tried this by changing mans DNA in Genesis, but God flooded the world and placed those demons in the pit. So, his next effort was to kill baby Jesus, he failed, but he succeeded in killing Jesus, not knowing he would be the Lamb of Redemption for mankind, if he had killed baby Jesus however there would have been no ministry, so he failed. Now his last hope is to kill off every Jew therefore there can be no Kingdom Age therefore God is a liar. So the big question is how can he best he best accomplish this? And that is what this thread is about, sorry about the long lead in. 

 

Can the Anti-Christ be a world wide leader? Is that even feasible? 

So, if a man wanted to kill off all of the Jews and Israel and blow up this end time Kingdom Age plan by God how would he go about that? Well imho, he needs to come up with a specific plan for that area of the world, not world dominance which avails nothing unto his A-1 job.  If this man tries to rule the whole world he would fail, Jesus knew he needed to reach a few only. This man via Satan, understands he needs to rule an area that gives him access to Israel via a treaty with both them and the Mediterranean Sea Region(MSR) to accomplish this goal. Trying to rule China, Russia or the USA just adds nothing to the goal. By trying to rule the whole world he would only start mega wars, China has Nukes, Russia has Nukes, the USA has Nukes. Personally I think this is all misdirection by Satan. He will have a pinpointed plan to wipe out Israel, not a dynamic plan to try and create a OWG rule over the whole world, Satan already rules this world, having one man rule the world adds nothing to his goal of killing off all of the Jews. This would not profit Satan, he is already the god of this whole world, all it would do is start mega wars between mega powers, which would hinder the goal, the goal is to wipe out Israel and the Jews. 

What would be the proper plan to pull off Satan's main goal?

So, if you want to wipe out Israel who has nukes you must get them to give up there nukes freely, thus you need a plan that brings a certain type of peace & trust, but also gives Israel assurances. So, you need to have a man in a Government in the Old World close to Israel, not in the New World, so lets discount that, the USA would not be in the plans of Satan here. It also would not be China, not close enough ties to Israel and they would never trust them anyway. Russia, Iran and Turkey are anti Israel so it would not be them. The only answer is the E.U. and Israel currently play their football (soccer) in the European Leagues. They have current agreements with the E.U. called the European Neighborhood Policy (ENP) The E.U. also has agreements with every nation in the Mediterranean Sea Region (MSR), all of North Africa and all of Israel's immediate neighbors.

So, why try to take over the whole world? This would make Israel wary of you instead of trust you and that would go against Satan's goal of gaining their trust. The best way to do this is to promise self autonomy while offering friendship and protection. The E.U. can say you will be independent and even allowed to leave the E.U., just like England did, come join us and we will protect you, they might give Israel's leaders an example of the way the USA protects modern day Hawaii in order to entice them, many modern liberal Israelis already want to be a part of the E.U. So, I think this Gog & Magog war is designed to drive Israel into the Anti-Christs arms. He not only does not need to rule the whole world to make this goal happen, trying to rule the whole world would hinder this goal. If you are in a war with Russia, China/North Korea or even the USA your real goal would be hindered massively !! So, this whole "He will rule the whole world", logically makes no sense, I do not think Satan, this super intelligent being, will go down that road. He will put forth the E.U. President/Leader, and he will get Israel to join the E.U. and to give up their Nukes while offering the peace of Statehood statis in the E.U. At that point his plan can go forward, once the DOTL arrives the coming Anti-Christ will be released by God to go forward conquering. His ruse has now caught Israel off guard, they will be in dire straights, but 2/3 of the Jews never see it coming, they are laughing at the 1/3 who turn to Jesus and flee Judea into the mountain terrains in Central & Southern Jordan (Petra/Bozrah) when this man forbids the Jesus Worship (Takes away The Sacrifice which is Jesus) and places an Image up in the Holy of Holies in the Temple. 

Now, why is it that people wrongly think the Anti-Christ rules the whole world?

Daniel 2 & 7 and Rev. 13 are the main places that give us insight on this end time Beast and his rule. Lets look at a few verses in each chapter that most people seem to have misconstrued. In Dan. 2:36-37 we see Nebuchadnezzar was said to have ruled over any place where man lay his head. Then in verses 39 & 40 we see the Greece kingdom is said to rule over all the earth, and the Roman beast followed him.

Daniel 2:39 And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth. 40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.

In Dan, 7 we see this dream as given unto Daniel instead of Nebuchadnezzar, instead of precious metals he sees these kingdoms as Beasts who dominate this particular region, Israel and the MSR. In verses 7-8 we get the Fourth Beast, in later verses we get the interpretation.

7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns. 8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Above, this fourth beast is said to be different from all the others, but verse 3 says they were all diverse, so later on we are told by the angel why this beast's diverseness was so special. Verse 8 seems to end by saying this was a Man speaking great/evil things. 

19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast(the Angel explains in detail), which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth(Rome), which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. 24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise(Complete E.U. reunited): and another shall rise after them(He is born in Greece after the E.U. is formed); and he shall be diverse from the first(Rome), and he shall subdue three kings.

In verse 23 this Fourth Beast which has 10 horns and a Little Horn that arises out of his head, is said to conquer the whole earth/world. So Greece was supposed to conquer the whole earth, as is this Roman Fourth Beast's off spring the Little Horn. So, these verses have to be understood in the context they are being used in, and that context is these Beasts all arise out of the Sea (Mediterranean Great Sea) and thus rule over the MSR and Israel in each case. That limits this "earth area" or the landmass being spoken about to the 7 Heads and 10 Horns' area. That means the Egyptian Kingdom, Assyrian Empire, Babylonian Empire, Persia, Greek Empire, Roman Empire and the coming Anti-Christ/Little Horn's end time Kingdom. So, anytime this 7 Headed 10 Horned beast is mentioned it can only be about that region of the world, and the earth as mentioned simply means the land in that region, around the Mediterranean Sea Region. The Rev. 13 Beast is no different.

Rev. 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea(MSR), and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? 5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

So, people sees these scriptures in English and assume this means he rules over the whole earth, but neither Nebuchadnezzar/Babylon nor Greece ruled the whole world, they merely ruled the whole earth being spoken about, as will the end time Anti-Christ. The 7 Headed 10 Horned area in the MSR. 

I see this end time Beast as a conglomerate of all these Beasts, Rev. 13 shows just this. He arose out of the Sea (MSR) and he also had features that show Greece, Babylon and Persia was a part of this figure or iron beast, he will rule in the Old World, from the E.U. This Beast System is a representation of the whole world in that this world is evil, and Satan is the god of this world, that s why judgment is coming.

Its not really a credible idea to think this man is going to rule the whole world. Too many nations have Nukes, China and Russia don't want to be a part of a OWG where one man is over them, its not going to happen, when people are shown this in stark narratives, they can sometimes see through the blind faith they have in this man being a OWG leader. The coup de gras to this kind of thinking can be seen in Daniel 11:40-43. We are shown who all he conquers, then told his end will come in Jerusalem. He conquers many nations to get at Israel, conquers Israel, and then all of North Africa. Verse 45 then says he comes to his end, no further conquering is mentioned in this play by play prophecy of the end time Anti-Christ.

The whole earth is in reference to the Landmass being spoken about in this 7 Headed 10 Horned region. Ever hear of the 10 Region fable people push? Why do they say this? Because they misinterpret the WHOLE EARTH verses as being the whole world, and not all the earth or whole land being spoken about in this region. Since Greece gives birth unto this end time Little Horn, they can conquer this whole earth area also, because no one but Rome conquered every square inch of the Mediterranean Sea Region. 

Rome Conquered every square inch of the Mediterranean Seas Regions coastline

The E.U. when it goes forth conquering via the Beast in Dan. 11:40-43 will look exactly like the above map.

Did Greece ever conquer all this land? No, but the Anti-Christ is a Greek born man, so he will thus fulfill Dan. 11:40-43 and thus Alexanders four kings territory will also be a part of this end time conflict, he's even called the King of the North in Dan. 11:40 !!

Yes, Greece ruled a large landmass, but only half of the Mediterranean Sea Coastline Region. So, only the end time Anti-Christ can fulfill the Dan. 2:39 prophecy that says Greece will rule all the earth (Mediterranean Sea Region Coastline) for the Greek Beast prophecy. 

Conquering the whole world just makes zero sense, this Little Horn/A.C. has one goal, kill off all of the Jews, the best way to accomplish this is via a close proximity relationship where Israel gains his trust to the point they are willing to give up their Nukes. Then his true plan will kick in, he will turn on Israel and the MSR, but that is all he needs to conquer in order to achieve his goals. In my opinion, the New World burns, that is the 1/3 of the Trees etc. that burns. 

Edited September 23, 2023 by Revelation Man

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

Revelation 13:16,17
And he causes ALL, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name

With today's globalism and the advent of AI, it's entirely possible the AC will effectively rule the rest of the world thru financial constraints and demand that ALL take the mark in order to be able to buy and to sell.

It's going to be hard to overcome Revelation 13:16,17 meaning ALL as it clearly states in scripture.

 

 

[Diaste]

4 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

So, people sees these scriptures in English and assume this means he rules over the whole earth, but neither Nebuchadnezzar/Babylon nor Greece ruled the whole world, they merely ruled the whole earth being spoken about, as will the end time Anti-Christ. The 7 Headed 10 Horned area in the MSR. 

This doesn't mean, and never did mean, every square foot of land mass. 

One can confidently assume this means they are top dog and when they growl everyone else reacts. In that way they do indeed hold power over the population. Europe was losing to Hitler before a shot was fired. No country stood up to him. He held power over the actions of the entire population for a time. 

The same with the kingdoms of the statue. There was no challenge to these 3 mighty powers. The great and powerful Persian Empire fell to the smaller forces of Alexander. The Grecian Empire was deemed so powerful there were no challengers in the minds of the people. 

So when the scripture says 'the whole world' or 'all the world', this is in the mind and not every square inch of dirt. In Rev 13 it's prophesied 'the whole world wondered after the beast' and ' they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?'

The beast takes over in the mind of all people, not by rampaging across every continent.

But, the problem is also a logical one. Just because something before had particular attributes it does not follow that what comes after must also be limited to those attributes. The kingdoms of the statute are not even in the same context as the beast. The beast rules at a time never before seen and never to happen again. 

The beasts rule is a special case and cannot have synchronous parallelism with any kingdom before.

This is sort of like law of first mention which is also logically unsound. 

 

 

[FJK]

The purpose of the Antichrist is to be Anti Christ and defeat Christianity then remove it from guiding the peoples lives.

He already rules the world where there is no Christianity opposing him and is currently defeating Christianity throughout the rest of the world where it has flourished in the past.

He rules by default when Christianity is removed.

There will be only a remnant left to oppose him in the final battle where his defeated, which countries do you see that remnant coming from?

(My way of seeing it)

 

[Shilohsfoal]

Your not understanding who will persecute who.Yes Jesus preached the gospel in Israel for 3.5 years.So to will those who Jesus sends to Israel to preach for 3.5 years.

They will be persecuted and killed throughout all the cities in Israel for those 3.5 years.The rulers of Israel will imprison and kill them right up to the day Christ comes.

 

Jesus talks about it all through the gospel.

 

commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

⁶ But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

⁷ And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.

⁸ Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

⁹ Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,

¹⁰ Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.

¹¹ And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.

 

¹² And when ye come into an house, salute it.

¹³ And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.

¹⁴ And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

¹⁵ Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

¹⁶ Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

¹⁷ But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;

¹⁸ And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.

 

¹⁹ But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.

²⁰ For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.

²¹ And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.

²² And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

²³ But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.

 

 

Over and over Jesus spoke of this persecution of them who preach in Israel for those final 3.5 years.

 

Mathew 23:37

“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.

 

 

It has nothing to do with the rest of the world.As with 98 percent of the rest of the bible,this end time persecution is about what takes place in and around Israel .But mostly just Israel.

[Shilohsfoal]

8 hours ago, Stan Murff said:

Revelation 13:16,17
And he causes ALL, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name

With today's globalism and the advent of AI, it's entirely possible the AC will effectively rule the rest of the world thru financial constraints and demand that ALL take the mark in order to be able to buy and to sell.

It's going to be hard to overcome Revelation 13:16,17 meaning ALL as it clearly states in scripture.

 

 

Apparently not ALL.

 

Revelation 20:4

I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

 

 

Now I will admit that almost everyone in the land of Israel will receive the Israeli governments mark but not ALL.There are some in the land of Israel who will not receive it.Insted of receiving the mark they will be killed for their instruction to others .

Daniel 11:33-35

Wise leaders will give instruction to many, but these teachers will die by fire and sword, or they will be jailed and robbed.

During these persecutions, little help will arrive, and many who join them will not be sincere.

And some of the wise will fall victim to persecution. In this way, they will be refined and cleansed and made pure until the time of the end, for the appointed time is still to come.

 

These saints who go throughout the cities of Israel for 3.5 years giving instruction concerning the kingdom of God and giving warning to the people to repent will be persecuted and killed for their testimony.They will be resurected in the first resurection and will reign with Christ.They don't recieve the Israeli governments mark.They don't make the mistake of choosing the wrong king of Israel.

 

 

 

Edited September 23, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Last Daze]

12 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Conquering the whole world just makes zero sense, he has one goal, kill of the Jews,

And the offspring of the woman:

Then the dragon was enraged at the woman and went off to wage war against the rest of her offspring—those who keep God’s commands and hold fast their testimony about Jesus.  Rev 12:17

Her offspring are all over the world. Consequently his reach extends around the entire world.

 

It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation.  Rev 13:7

Stated in such a way as to leave no doubt as to the scope.

[Last Daze]

7 hours ago, Diaste said:

The beast takes over in the mind of all people, not by rampaging across every continent.

This is exactly right.  The signs and wonders that he performs deceives the world and it is those deceived people who build the image that must be worshipped.  He has a global army of deceived people eager to do his bidding and rid the world of Christians.

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

3 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Apparently not ALL.

Well, of course those that don't are killed...

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, Stan Murff said:

Well, of course those that don't are killed...

Where does scripture say they are killed?

 

Jesus talked about the throughout the gospel.He said where they will be beaten and where they will be persecuted and where they will die.

 

You just need to figure out where this takes place.

 

 

 

Edited September 23, 2023 by Shilohsfoal