Daniel 9:27

[angels4u]

Daniel 9:27

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This could happen any day now,there is so much misunderstanding of who the "he" is who will make a covenant with Israel.

Who do you think it it?

(I post my understanding later..

[Know Jah]

Well, I think according to context the he is the Messiah vrs 25,26

[R. Hartono]

19 hours ago, Know Jah said:

Well, I think according to context the he is the Messiah vrs 25,26

Antichrist will build the 3rd temple for his abomination.

[Charlie744]

On 1/22/2024 at 6:45 AM, angels4u said:

Daniel 9:27

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This could happen any day now,there is so much misunderstanding of who the "he" is who will make a covenant with Israel.

Who do you think it it?

(I post my understanding later..

The book of Daniel is about two main things: the complete restoration of the Jews, their city, the Temple, the Sanctuary, the 7 Feast days, all the Sabbatical cycles and the Levitical ceremonies and practices. In short, it is God purposely recording these 12 chapters to reveal His plan of restoration and salvation for His people after their complete destruction by the Babylonians. But of course, there is the bigger picture where HE (not he), will design this plan and all of those coming events (especially the cross), to reveal His plan of salvation for ALL MANKIND. 
 

Salvation was / does come through the Jews. God had decided it that way, but they did not go out into the world teaching and preaching the one true God. Then, they rejected HIM. Now, salvation will come through the death and resurrection of the Messiah. 
All of Daniel focuses on these two things and the most important chapter in Daniel is chapter 9 where it reveals the God given mission of His Messiah. 
Verses 9:24-27 are an unbelievable revealing of what would take place DURING the last week within the 70 weeks of years prophecy. There
 are, however, two events that will come to take place AFTER the end of the prophetic 70 weeks- but they are the consequences of the cross: the Temple will be destroyed in 40 years (I believe God gave His people 40 years- testing period, to accept Jesus as their Messiah), and the complete desolation of HIS people from their God. 
 The New Covenant was CONFIRMED (Jeremiah) by the Messiah. The Covenant was confirmed DURING (not for) the last 7 years of the 490 years. The Messiah was “cut off” in the middle of the last 7 years of the 490 years. The cross would ensure there would no longer be any need for the daily or annual animal sacrifices or offerings. 
HE arrived on the 1st day of the 70th week and was baptized (anointed by God) in the Jordan. 
Everything in these 4 Messianic verses reveal what would take place by the ONLY ONE this book is written about. 
The death of our Lord and Savior (cross) represents the ONLY EVENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD that could meet the definition of the ABOMINATION THAT CAUSES DESOLATION! It is the cross and the rejection of HIS people that caused God to separate HIMSELF from HIS PEOPLE for the next 2000 years. But this was in HIS plan of salvation since the beginning of the world. The Jews would be without their God - become completely desolate from HIM UNTIL HE REMOVES THE BLINDNESS FROM THEIR EYES. This will happen soon - I believe. 
 

It is ALL ABOUT HIM! 

 

Edited January 23 by Charlie744

[Revelation Man]

On 1/22/2024 at 7:45 AM, angels4u said:

Daniel 9:27

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

This could happen any day now,there is so much misunderstanding of who the "he" is who will make a covenant with Israel.

Who do you think it it?

(I post my understanding later..

Basically the agreement(s) framework (covenant in Hebrew simply means agreement) has been ongoing for 20 plus years in the form of the European Neighborhood Policy, where the agreements ran in 7 year cycles, but its a vehicle for the E.U. to incorporate the Mediterranean Sea Region under its sphere of influence, and with a possible future invite to the E.U. in the cards. Its not just Israel (think THE MANY) it is also Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, Syria, Tunisia, Libya, Morocco and Algeria. Satan is brilliant tactically speaking, he knows he has to draw them into a trap. He knows by reading the holy bible that one day soon Russia, Iran and Turkey will come against Israel, so he needs to gain their trust so one day this Agreement can happen. But WHAT IS THE AGREEMENT? 

Well what would trigger God's anger the most? Israel joining the E.U. to God is them giving His land away. That kicks off both the pre 70th week Rapture and the 70th week penance against Israel, that final week must see Israel repent just before God's wrath falls at the 1260 middle of the week event. The Two-witnesses are the 1335, which happens 75 days before the 1260.

The passages/bible had no verses back then, they had 25, 26 and 27 as three verses, when half of 26 should have gone to vs, 25 and half to vs. 27.

Dan. 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks(so 69 weeks until Christ dies): the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times(7 weeks or 7 x 7 = 49 years). 26 And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself(62 weeks or 62 x 7 = 434 years): {{{ 434 + 49 = 483 Years }}}

I think the improper placement can confuse some people, it shouldn't but it very well might.

and the people(Romans) of the prince(A.C./Beast) that shall come shall(2000 some odd years later) destroy the city and the sanctuary;(Jerusalem and the Temple in  70 AD) and the end thereof shall be with a flood(Army), and unto the end of the war desolations are determined(The Diaspora comes). 27 And he(A.C./prince to come) shall confirm the covenant(Agreement) with many for one week(7 x 1 or 7 years): and in the midst of the week(1290, which is 30 days before the exact middle) he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate(It shall be defiled until God's wrath comes full and Jesus shows up to rule).

The A.C. only becomes the Beast at the 1260, the False Prophet (a Jewish High Priest like unto Jason under Antiochus) will stop Jesus worship by the 5 million Jews who repent at the 1335, which comes before the 1290. The F.P. places the image as Rev. 13 tells us, its the 2nd Beast that gets the people to place the image. It was Jason who welcomed Antiochus into the temple to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus and mandated that all Jews become Hellenized (take on the Greek culture, serve their gods,  accept homosexuality et al.  Everything is already cooked in the books (the bible tells it all) we just have to know how to dig it out.

By 2034 Jesus will be ruling, not may, but will be ruling. 

[JohnD]

Daniel 9:27 (KJV)
27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The verse turns a corner from the genuine Messiah in the previous verses to the counterfeit messiah:

he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week:

"he" being the false messiah / antichrist shall confirm THE covenant with the MANY.

The covenant in Daniel (occasionally referred to as the holy covenant) is the Old Testament Law of Moses. Which he will convince the world is the only covenant of God. It actually was before the true Messiah Jesus came and fulfilled the Old Covenant and ushered in the New Covenant in his own blood. But the false messiah will claim Jesus was a fraud and that he is the real messiah. And the world (minus born again believers in the true Messiah Jesus) will fall for it. The false messiah will have evidence that seems right to non-Christian people (there is a way that seems right to man but the ends thereof are the ways of death). I'll get to that evidence in a bit.

The "one week" is the 70th Week of Daniel (week of years = 7 years think of it as a Hebrew decade)

in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,

The false messiah will renege on his covenant with the Jews about mid 70th Week of Daniel causing the temple sacrifice to cease. Which means there will be a standing temple. There will be a sign / reason why he does this at this time. I'll get to that in a bit.

for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

ha shiqquts m' shamen refers to the defiling of the temple itself when the false messiah parks his miserable carcass on the mercy seat in the holy of holies and declares himself to be god.

Jesus refers to this in Matthew 24:15-24 and Paul refers to it in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-11. Daniel speaks about it prophetically Daniel 11:36.

Zechariah 5:5-11 takes it from there (which began on Temple mount and ends up in Babylon) the woman in the basket is Israel. As is the woman who tides the beast in Revelation 17... for the false messiah will have plowed with the LORD's heifer in this tribulation period. 

I know that's hard to hear. I was quite literally sickened by this revelation, and it still grieves me to this day. But to turn from God's Messiah is to head down this path of deception and destruction (for any peoples).

If we search for the false messiah in scripture the way we search for the genuine Messiah, we learn that there are only two scriptures that contain the phrase "son of perdition." 2 Thessalonians 2:4 and John 17:12. Judas Iscariot is pointed out but not specifically named. Some believe this is a prophetic prefiguring of the ultimate son of perdition. But there is only one human being that the Bible says Satan entered into. Luke 22:3 and John 13:26-27 where Judas Iscariot is specifically named. In Acts 1:25 it is said that Judas "went to his own place" in his death.

Sheol the grave has three compartments: Abraham's Bosom, Tartarus (the place of suffering) and a great divide / abyss between the two. This is how the false messiah will convince the whole world that the Old Covenant is the only covenant of God... he will be able to prove himself a man who lived 2000 years ago raised from the dead. By DNA or blood content or some other means. Remember the whole world has people of other religions and atheists etc to convince. Here comes a 2000 year old man who is able to prove his age and the world will believe every thing he says. All but Spirit-filled believers in Jesus, that is.

These Spirit-filled believers in Jesus will not bow down to the false messiah nor accept his mark. This is what the mark is for... to expose the one people who will not accept it... to behead them. And once the beast believes Christians are vanquished, he will renege on the covenant with the Jews. He will desecrate the temple and move his capital to Babylon (Satan's Jerusalem founded by his Moses Nimrod). And the Jews will become the refuseniks the Christians had been. This will precipitate the great tribulation.

The purpose for the Great Tribulation is to put the remnant of Jews backs to the wall so that in a last desperate act, they cry out to Jesus for nothing else will have worked. And Jesus will return at their cry (Psalm 118:225-26 / Matthew 23:37-39). Hosha Nah (hosanna) Save now! Yehoshua HaMoshiakh (Jesus the Messiah).

Just FYI about Sheol:

 

 

[Desopixi Seilynam]

I believe there is a word missing from the translation of verse 27; fire.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one "week": and in the midst of the "week" he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation,
and that determined fire shall be poured upon the desolator.

[   For Tophet it is ordained of old; yea for the king it is prepared;
    God has made it deep and large; the pile thereof is fire and much wood;
    the breath of the Lord, like a stream of brimstone, does kindle it.
    Isaiah 30:31

    And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him....
    these both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with fire and brimstone....
    And the rest were slain with the sword of Him that sat upon the horse,
    which sword proceeded from His mouth...
    Revelation 19:20-21

    Creation of the lake of fire; Revelation 11:15, 19:20-21, 20:9  ]

And it should be clear that the word 'week' certainly does not mean week (as others have said)
or perhaps 'week' is an incorrect translation.

If we look at the whole context of the passage it becomes clear that Daniel is being told about
70 captivities; Daniel 1:21, 2 Chronicles 36:21, Daniel 9:1-23, Jeremiah 25:12,18,26.

The correct translation is therefore 'captivities' not 'weeks'.
This becomes evident in two main points within the passage:

Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command
to restore and build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be
seven weeks and threescore and two weeks ....  v 25.

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah suffer the death penalty. v 26.

Because of verse 26 we know that the rebuilding spoken of in 25 has happened,
also because the Messiah suffering the death penalty has happened in time already.

And scholars will multiply 7*7 to get 49 and multiply 62*7 to get 434,
and then add 49 and 434 together and get 483.
Then they'll talk about how about 483 years passed from Haggai to the time of Christ.

Darius died around 486 BC, (Daniel 9:1)
so from Daniels time to Christ was about 486 or so years, but years not days.

You'll see the above or similar numbers used to confirm Daniel 9:25,
they will use that math and say that about 483 years did pass.
But if the translation is weeks, and we stick to it, then it's 483 days not years.
Scholars will infer years, because of the time we can see,
but there is no context to just turn "weeks" into "years".

Now, if the real translation is 'captivities'
let's see how that would work.

Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the command
to restore and build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be
seven captivities and threescore and two weeks ....

A captivity is 70 years, the direct context of the passage tells us that: Daniel 9:1-2.

So the real math would be 70*7 for the years, 490 years, plus 62 literal weeks.

490 years and 62 weeks from the time of Darius up to the death and resurrection of Christ.

And also if the captivities translation is correct,
the whole Daniel 9:24-27 passage is telling us that
there would be thousands of years after the Messiah.

Going on to verse 27, scholars again infer years from the word "week".

But placing the better translation captivity;

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one captivity: and in the midst of the captivity he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation,
and that determined fire shall be poured upon the desolator.

We see that the anti-Christ has 70 total years, in the middle of which he causes sacrifice to cease.

And "one captivity" makes more sense, with "one week" one has to infer something that is not contextually there.

 

[BlindSeeker]

On 1/22/2024 at 9:43 AM, Know Jah said:

Well, I think according to context the he is the Messiah vrs 25,26

I wholeheartedly agree. If interested, here is my perspective.

[BlindSeeker]

On 1/23/2024 at 5:37 AM, R. Hartono said:

Antichrist will build the 3rd temple for his abomination.

I really do not subscribe to the Antichrist end time figure. The Apostle John under the unction of the Holy Spirit coined the phrase, and used it in the singular and plural, and that in application for his day and age. But yes, of course, the spirit of antichrist continues in many ways even today. However, John also wrote Revelation, under the unction and leading of the same Holy Spirit, yet nowhere does he reuse the word there. WHY?

Plus, I do not believe in a rebuilding of the temple...

Here's why...