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18 hours ago, FJK said:

I would consider them on the outside fringes of Christianity at best, KKK not even Christian at all with only occasional lip service to it and no adherence to Christian principles being advpcated to the slightest degree.

I, and I hope all calling themselves Christians, condemn them totally.  There is nothing in the teachings of Jesus that supports or encourages their actions.

Calling oneself Christian does not make one a Christian, following and practicing the teachings of Jesus in your life does.

Yes and these are the examples most of the press uses to describe Christians which is unfortunate. 

None of the Christians I am familiar with are even remotely like this. 


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18 hours ago, Slibhin said:

Why do you get to enjoy the privilege of drawing a distinction between you and guys like the KKK, but they don't?

They do, but those doing so are far and few between.

How many Imam's and Mosques do you find that preach tolerance and respect for Israel and the Jews worldwide and the right for Israel to exist compared to those doing the opposite?

There's the difference, those calling themselves Christain and preaching hatred are in direct violation of everything Jesus taught and are widely condemned by almost everyone calling themselves Christian while the opposite is true in Islam (of course, you could show differently using valid stats if you wish, and I would reconsider my position).

Something you might consider, would you consider the Black Hebrew Israelite's to represent Judaism as a whole or label them as just a fringe group claiming to be Jews when they are not?  They claim to be the real Jews from what i understand, next time you are in Israel you might seek them out and investigate them personally and post about them, you would know more than I do about it.

Hope you're doing well and staying safe, may God bless you and be your guide on that special path he has laid out just for you as that special person that he made you to be.

 


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23 hours ago, Slibhin said:

What then is your basis to claim killing Jews is their core doctrine? Where did you acquire this information? I never said antisemitism or terrorism were not problems in the Islamic world. I am responding to the demonization and dehumanizing of people as an excuse to obliterate them.

When you pick and choose what history you're going to cite and ignore anything that conflicts with your opinion, you do not have a valid opinion you have a prejudice.

You can read or download the Hamas charter of 1988 in pdf format.   I don't want to derail this thread, but read page 4 of that article and tell me if it does not explicitly mentions .     


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18 hours ago, Slibhin said:

A Christian is a person who follows the Christian religion. How else would one define it?

Clever indeed. Well ok if this is all you have to say.


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5 minutes ago, Slibhin said:

I don't consider anyone Jewish who doesn't follow Halakha and and believe in the Torah. I do not accept reformed, conservative, messianic, or any other group.

If you get to do that don't I (and most other Christians) get to consider those who practice hatred and ignore the teachings of Jesus to be non Christians?

Yet you seem to want to label them Christian to make a case for "Christian terrorism"

FWIW, I don't know if you're involved with Chabad at all, but I do see them favorably and as a refreshing revival of true Judaism in that they teach and promote a warm understanding in place of a cold understanding of scripture.

Thank you for your reply, it is appreciated.


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3 hours ago, Slibhin said:

The question was "do I feel safe".

The one country does not even recognize a passport issued by Israel.  A person with an Israeli passport cannot get a Visa to enter the country.  Safe there ? The others ethier have warning to Israelis or tell them to keep a low profile. Safe there?

But each of us is unsafe in terms of eternal life without a personal relationship with Yeshua. All else is moot for in this flesh each of us are but vapors of the moment. In Jesus alone is hope certain.


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1 hour ago, Slibhin said:

If you're response is to repeat that killing Jews is a core teaching of Islam, either show me where in their religious scriptures it says that, or I'm going to assume you're refusing to answer the question because you know you're being a hypocrite.

.."we hope that the words of the Prophet Muhammad will be fulfilled: Judgment Day will not come before the Muslims fight the Jews, and the Jews will hide behind the rocks and the trees, but the rocks and the trees will say: Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him — except for the gharqad tree, which is one of the trees of the Jews.”- Talaat Mohamed Afifi Salem

A friendly people indeed.


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On 3/5/2024 at 2:34 PM, Slibhin said:

A Christian is a person who follows the Christian religion. How else would one define it?

More precisely-- Just for the record.

Taken from Collins dictionary, as you are being formal.

"A Christian is someone who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ."

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1 hour ago, Slibhin said:

If you're response is to repeat that killing Jews is a core teaching of Islam, either show me where in their religious scriptures it says that...

Surah 3:151: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve (all non-Muslims) …"

Surah 2:191: "And kill them (non-Muslims) wherever you find them … kill them. Such is the recompense of the disbelievers (non-Muslims)."

Surah 9:5: "Then kill the disbelievers (non-Muslims) wherever you find them, capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush …"

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