Some believe he is the chosen one of end times.

[Diaste]

12 hours ago, BlindSeeker said:

Like I said in my post, "can this all actually be a clever devilish scheme to promote Trump to the Church?"

I think so....

2 Co 11:4 - For if, indeed, the one coming proclaims another Jesus, whom we have not proclaimed, or if you receive another spirit, which you did not receive, or another gospel, which you never accepted, you might well endure these.

Like the Church doesn't already have all the wolves in sheep's clothing required to lead them all astray. But I guess, what's one more? 

[Shilohsfoal]

1 hour ago, Diaste said:

That really doesn't follow. 

So where is Trump making sure no one tears down a cross?

 

No where.

 

Now,would you like to buy a bible for the low low price of $60.00 from multi billionaire Trump?He needs support to save Christianity and christians.Or pay his lawyers.

Edited March 27, 2024 by Shilohsfoal

[Last Daze]

13 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Krill supports the war and doesn't care how many Russians and Ukrainian christians are killed.The more die the better as long as he can keep the churches in the former Soviet Union in check.

Truth is the first casualty in any war.  

[Neighbor]

1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

So where is Trump making sure no one tears down a cross?

 

A cross is just a stick or two. That's all any cross is, nothing to venerate in of itself. My Lord was crucified on a cross; as were many. It is not the crosses that are holy, but my Lord alone.

Crosses are but trinkets, not much different from statues, many sold as artwork for gain of the seller and enjoyment of a buyer. Yet every cross, symbol or icon, or avatar, in the world could be lifted up or torn down and destroyed and it would not affect the gospel of my Lord and savior Yeshua one little bit.

[Neighbor]

Just now, Neighbor said:

A cross is just a stick or two. That's all any cross is, nothing to venerate in of itself. My Lord was crucified on a cross; as were many. It is not the crosses that are holy, but my Lord alone.

Little crosses or even big ones are but trinkets, not much different from statues, many sold as artwork for gain of the seller and enjoyment of a buyer. Yet every cross, symbol or icon, or avatar, in the world could be lifted up or torn down and destroyed and it would not affect the gospel of my Lord and savior Yeshua one little bit.

 

[Montana Marv]

23 hours ago, BlindSeeker said:

Is this to imply God creates sinners?

Sinners create sinners.  God creates a path to Righteousness.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Montana Marv]

On 3/25/2024 at 1:09 PM, Shilohsfoal said:

I was anointed with God's holy spirit 

I don't see where the anointing is called a task in scripture.

 

90 percent or more of those who post on this Forum have also been anointed with God's Holy Spirit.  And many of us reject what you claim.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Shilohsfoal]

2 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

90 percent or more of those who post on this Forum have also been anointed with God's Holy Spirit.  And many of us reject what you claim.

In Christ

Montana Marv

You reject my claim that the anointing of God is the holy spirit?

What is it that you believe the anointing of God is?

 

 

If this isn't the holy spirit of God being spoken of then do tell what you believe the anointing is.

 

1 John 2:27

As for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you, and you do not need anyone to teach you. But as his anointing teaches you about all things and as that anointing is real, not counterfeit—just as it has taught you, remain in him.
 

[BlindSeeker]

On 3/23/2024 at 11:43 AM, Montana Marv said:

Jesus chose Saul/Paul. Jesus chose the 12, one of who was a traitor.  God chose King David to be a man of God.  God gave extreme wisdom to Solomon.  God gives gifts unto men.  Each man of God has purpose.  Trumps purpose may to bring America back and restore it.  What is your purpose?  Belittle everyone.  Was Churchill not chosen to lead England,  All are chosen, some produce wood hay and stubble.  Others Gold, Silver and Precious Stones.  Anointed of God, or anointed of men.  A lot of unanswered questions.

In Christ

Montana Marv

I'm just not certain I am understanding your point, or points. 

When you say God chooses men, are you speaking of the occasional partiality of God towards certain individuals for His purpose, i.e., some to be godly, some to be traitors, some to be wise and others left as fools, or are you speaking of all men?

Also, when you say some produce wood, hay, and stubble, and others, gold, silver, and precious stone.  Are you applying that to all men, whether they be professing Christians or not? For my understanding of that verse is specifically addressing those who profess to be teachers or leaders in the church. 

I believe in the sovereignty of God and His providence, but in the sense nothing can go against God ultimate will, but much evil he permits in His permissive will that men may learn to hate sin and love righteousness.

I hope we can labor together to settle some of these "unanswered questions."

[BlindSeeker]

Montana Marv and Shilohsfoal, you are both correct.

There is indeed places in scripture where "anointed" means "chosen" or set "apart," but it is indeed absolutely correct to understand it as "being poured upon" or a "filling."

Perhaps, being specific with each other how you are using it  will allow a path to agreement and a return to the Original Topic.