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1 hour ago, TrueFollowerOfChrist said:

Your hatred of Trump makes it difficult to have a good conversation. Your not going by scripture, your going by your own personal feelings of hatred. You seem to care more about bashing Trump ( I honestly don't know why since he did great things ) than about the actual subject. So I will wish you a good day and God Bless.

 

Some people just don't care for the kind of person Trump is.

I personally could never support a man who brags about sexual assaulting women.It goes against everything I believe in.Trump says it's normal man talk but there is nothing normal about grabbing women by their vaginas .

I believe Donald Trump is a despicable man.Im not alone.

 

Daniel 11:21

“The next to come to power will be a despicable man who is not in line for royal succession. He will slip in when least expected and take over the kingdom by flattery and intrigue.

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5 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

I do not play Pin the Tail on the Antichrist, but! One of his characteristics is that he is a wizard of words; his oratory skills will outrival any ancient or modern human (Daniel, Matthew, and Revelation). His speeches would have Hitler withdraw from the podium, listening in awe. He will mesmerize the masses with his oratory prowess.

I respect former President Trump and his commitment to MAGA, but in my lifetime as a leader, his oratory skills severely lacked attention. Trump’s worst enemy is his own mouth, IMO.

I will also donate $1000.00 to the charity of your choice if you can provide me one verse from the Bible that indicates that the Antichrist has "great oratory skills." Thanks. 


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1 hour ago, Revelation Man said:

Its pretty easy for those who heed all the identifiers God gave us, which this guy doesn't want to hear it seems. 

1.) He must be born in Greece

2.) He must come to power in the E.U.

3.) He must be an Assyrian by bloodline

4.) He must have attributes like unto Antiochus Epiphanes in every way

5.) He must be in cahoots with a Jewish High Priest (False Prophet) just like Antiochus was, the High Priests name was Jason (real name Yeshua)

These five things are more important than his physical appearance and his traits because without looking for a Greek born in the E.U. first we are wasting our time, and without looking for a Greek born in the E.U. who has Assyrian bloodline, we are wasting our time. God narrows down this mans roots by cross referencing all these attributes, birth place, bloodline, and Antiochus like attributes. Then we can go into appearance, demeanor, style, etc. etc. 

Well, as you know, we differ on the identity of the little horn. I believe you believe he is an end time arrival while I believe he arrives some 400 years after the cross. But I appreciate your response to this as it will give others an interpretation to think about. 
 

I hope others will also offer their thoughts on these two identifiers of the little horn from Daniel 7 and 8. 

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8 hours ago, Michael37 said:

When the anonymous anomos has dispatched and disposed of all that restrains him, then he will be revealed.

2Th 2:6-8  And now you know what withholds that he might be revealed in his time.  (7)  For the mystery of iniquity does already work: only he who now restrains will restrain, until he be taken out of the way.  (8)  And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

Except that the "revealing" there bespeaks his apokaluptó halfway through the Tribulation when he stands in the temple to proclaim himself "God." This will be a very public event to every person, believer and unbeliever, on the planet. It is at THAT time that forces, especially in Israel resist him. By this time, he will have already brokered a peace deal and (likely) set up the financial Mark of the Beast, (not to mention he will be standing IN A NEWLY BUILT TEMPLE.) Therefore, people would have REFUSED the Mark previously. Why? Because individual Christians would have seen these previous signs and connected the dots.

This word apokaluptó is similar to the word for "Revelation" (of Christ), a word that does rule out that other individuals have already recognized him, but a revelation to the entire world when He established His visible reign on Earth.

 

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18 minutes ago, Jonathan Dane said:

I will also donate $1000.00 to the charity of your choice if you can provide me one verse from the Bible that indicates that the Antichrist has "great oratory skills." Thanks. 

When did the little horn come to power? What kingdom did he come out of?

 

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5 hours ago, luigi said:

Besides the Antichrists primary characteristic being opposite the Lords character of loving your fellow man, here are a few more characteristics about the Antichrist (aka, the man of sin/lawlessness; the little horn; the mouth speaking great things; the false prophet).

He has eyes like those of men, and therefore relates with people by seeing things the way most people do, and speaks of how great things are going to be under his command. (Daniel 7:8; 11; 20; 25)

He is fatter than those around him (Daniel 7:20).

He casts truth to the ground and stomps all over the illumination of Gods angels (Daniel 8:10 & 12; 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12). As such, he a pathological liar so as to speak of the great things he will perform that are contrary to God; and as such he is a false prophet (Revelation 16:13; 19:20; 20:10).

He magnifies himself, and loves to see himself on the level of God (Daniel 8:11,25; 11:36-37; 2Thessalonians 2:4). As such, he is a massive narcissist.

Absolutely. And Trump does ALL of those things. Dead ringer.


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1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

I believe Donald Trump is a despicable man

Maybe he is. He is only one among many. He may have talked about it, but there is one in office that openly does it..... against women and children.

1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Daniel 11:21

“The next to come to power will be a despicable man who is not in line for royal succession. He will slip in when least expected and take over the kingdom by flattery and intrigue

It sounds like you are suggesting that this 'despicable man' that you name will take over "the kingdom."

Which kingdom will he take over?


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1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

Maybe he is. He is only one among many. He may have talked about it, but there is one in office that openly does it..... against women and children.

It sounds like you are suggesting that this 'despicable man' that you name will take over "the kingdom."

Which kingdom will he take over?

Who in office are you Accusing  sexually assaulted women?

Do you have any proof of your accusations?

 

 

Grab them by the p****. You can do anything,"

 

https://www.npr.org/2016/10/07/497087141/donald-trump-caught-on-tape-making-vulgar-remarks-about-women

 

"[W]hen you're a star," he said, "they let you do it. You can do anything."

 

 

The link you provide should look something like this.

 

https://apnews.com/article/trump-rape-carroll-trial-fe68259a4b98bb3947d42af9ec83d7db

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1 hour ago, Jonathan Dane said:

Absolutely. And Trump does ALL of those things. Dead ringer.

This outlandish statement is why you dodged all the facts I presented. You know its not Trump nor can be. Just like I called those out who claimed it was Obama. Too me, these types are just like like the drama queens who seek attention at every turn. 


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11 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

This outlandish statement is why you dodged all the facts I presented. You know its not Trump nor can be. Just like I called those out who claimed it was Obama. Too me, these types are just like like the drama queens who seek attention at every turn. 

Most of the things you put forth isn't about the man of sin.The man of sin is not the little horn.

The little horn who is given the host is not the one who provides the host.It is the host of the man of sin that is given to the little horn.

 

Daniel 8:12

And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.

 

The Israeli goverment is given the host.

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