Does God ONLY care about how much money you put in the collection plate?

[RdJ]

5 hours ago, ExactionForce10 said:

This is a serious question, and I would like some serious theologically correct answers here, please. I;'m just trying to get all this stuff figured out. 

 

I was watching some "prosperity gospel" preacher online and that church was saying that the ONLY THING God cares about is your tithing 10%, that that is ALL you have to do to get the "favor" of God and be blessed. They were teaching that God doesn't even care if you're a good person or if you really even believe in God, that He only responds to your tithing 10%.

Is that true? For example, if you were poor yourself and were not tithing 10% is it true that God won't care about you and bring you blessings because you are not tithing 10%? When  I read the Bible, it seems to say that the poor ARE BLESSED automatically because they are poor, and that those that have are supposed to give them money so that they won't be poor anymore. 

Also, that prosperity gospel church was teaching that we are gods, and it's okay to say that you are a god as long as it's god with a little g. We are "little gods' with a little g (whatever that means?). That is what they teach. They also teach that "money is god" and it's okay to go around saying that money is god. I wonder if the people in Ukraine would say money is God when the Russian bombs paid for with money are being dropped on their town? 

Is that correct theology according to the gospels? 

 

This is a serious theology question, because they are teaching this in their prosperity gospel churches.  Is that proper theology? 

No way. They really said money is god? How much more clear can you get it that they serve Mammon.

That we are gods is a Bible text.

‭Psalms 82:1-6 NKJV‬
[1] God stands in the congregation of the mighty; He judges among the gods. [2] How long will you judge unjustly, And show partiality to the wicked? Selah [3] Defend the poor and fatherless; Do justice to the afflicted and needy. [4] Deliver the poor and needy; Free them from the hand of the wicked. [5] They do not know, nor do they understand; They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are unstable. [6] I said, “You are gods, And all of you are children of the Most High.

https://bible.com/bible/114/psa.82.1-6.NKJV

 

[ExactionForce10]

Out of all the supposedly thousands of people on this forum, I’m just having a convo with basically one guy. Something is not genuine about that at all.

So in your opinion, it's okay for a minister to say that " he dares to think that he's equal to Jesus?" 

Great, so money is god, I'm god, and I can think that I’m equal to Christ, and love money money money money. I love money I love money i love money, and there is no other god but me. 

And God doesn't care if I'm a good person or sin all the time, he only cares about how much money I tithe. 

I'm equal to Jesus, that is a good thing to think and preach, and believe.

I can't wait to tell the kids that they are equal to Jesus because of their tithes and that they don’t have to believe in God or go to church, all they have to do is send in checks of 10% to the local church, and they are right with God. And it's okay for them to be lovers of money. 

Okay, I’m learning a lot of good Bible from this forum

 

In your estimation, it's okay for a preacher to be shouting "I love money, I love money" in church because the bible says "love of money is bad?" 

What, then, would he have to say before you believe that he is a lover OF money. Now we are playing word games that hold no water.

later 

[ExactionForce10]

Wow, learning so much good bible from this forum, and the prosperity gospel. 

I’m god, there is  no God but me, I'm also Equal to Jesus because of my tithes.

Edited June 14, 2024 by ExactionForce10

[Who me]

7 hours ago, ExactionForce10 said:

was watching some "prosperity gospel" preacher online 

 

Please stop watching these preachers and listening  to lies.

Please read "luke21 As Jesus looked up, he saw the rich putting their gifts into the temple treasury. 2 He also saw a poor widow put in two very small copper coins. 3 ‘Truly I tell you,’ he said, ‘this poor widow has put in more than all the others. 4 All these people gave their gifts out of their wealth; but she out of her poverty put in all she had to live on."

That clearly teaches that Jesus is not impressed by the size of one's donation, but is impressed by the spirit of love motivating one's giving.

Please search out a church that actually  preaches and practices  the gospel.

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, ExactionForce10 said:

Wow, learning so much good bible from this forum, and the prosperity gospel. 

I’m god, there is  no God but me, I'm also Equal to Jesus because of my tithes.

Strawman arguments and insulting sarcasm from antagonistic posters tends to get them restricted to Moderation Review.

[TheBlade]

6 hours ago, ExactionForce10 said:

This is a serious question, and I would like some serious theologically correct answers here, please. I;'m just trying to get all this stuff figured out. 

 

I was watching some "prosperity gospel" preacher online and that church was saying that the ONLY THING God cares about is your tithing 10%, that that is ALL you have to do to get the "favor" of God and be blessed. They were teaching that God doesn't even care if you're a good person or if you really even believe in God, that He only responds to your tithing 10%.

Is that true? For example, if you were poor yourself and were not tithing 10% is it true that God won't care about you and bring you blessings because you are not tithing 10%? When  I read the Bible, it seems to say that the poor ARE BLESSED automatically because they are poor, and that those that have are supposed to give them money so that they won't be poor anymore. 

Also, that prosperity gospel church was teaching that we are gods, and it's okay to say that you are a god as long as it's god with a little g. We are "little gods' with a little g (whatever that means?). That is what they teach. They also teach that "money is god" and it's okay to go around saying that money is god. I wonder if the people in Ukraine would say money is God when the Russian bombs paid for with money are being dropped on their town? 

Is that correct theology according to the gospels? 

 

This is a serious theology question, because they are teaching this in their prosperity gospel churches.  Is that proper theology? 

I don't know something seems very off here with your posts. You oddly didn't quote them.. I give you just one which was said over the years its on video "there is no such thing as prosperity gospel in the word of GOD" then they kept talking as to why they do not believe that and you could tell it hurt them. By that I mean.. it was not the world saying it about them but "Christians" that just love JESUS.  Things you wrote about.. I watched videos and then called them asked about it and not at all what those people that only show the bad oddly not the good they do for Christ. I did the same thing when a Christian forum was going on and on about something Oral Roberts (when he was alive) had said. I had the thought "Oral is not here to answer back or defend himself" and those "Christians" didn't care it seemed, there were so many. So me being no one reached out and talked to the man himself (all can be proven). It was nothing..nothing at all like they were going on and on about and no one that I know of just asked. See if GOD is in it He will open all the doors and its happened before in my life. See I loved.. I didn't judge . nothing. 

You just have noticed how most answered you? Sure we all hear see things.. but what good do they do you do me do for Christ. Every word we say is recorded and no matter who the believer is... they are not my kids and I have no power no authority over them they do not nor do you or anyone on this forum have to answer to me. Now the choice is yours.... what ever path is taken you me made it

[RdJ]

Well He was quite interested.

‭Luke 21:1-4 NKJV‬
[1] And He looked up and saw the rich putting their gifts into the treasury, [2] and He saw also a certain poor widow putting in two mites. [3] So He said, “Truly I say to you that this poor widow has put in more than all; [4] for all these out of their abundance have put in offerings for God, but she out of her poverty put in all the livelihood that she had.” 

https://bible.com/bible/114/luk.21.1-4.NKJV

 

Oh and just before that:

‭Luke 20:46-47 NKJV‬
[46] “Beware of the scribes, who desire to go around in long robes, love greetings in the marketplaces, the best seats in the synagogues, and the best places at feasts, [47] who devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. These will receive greater condemnation.”

https://bible.com/bible/114/luk.20.46-47.NKJV

 

They're just doing the same thing the pharisees did. Ask tithes from poor widows instead of giving the tithes to them.

Benny Hinn came to Belgium in the 90s. It was on national tv. An atheist interviewer said to a woman there: Don't give him your money! He has money enough! He has mansions, swimming pools. And I thought: Ooooh he speaks against God's anointed!

Now Benny Hinn even said it himself. He got a warning dream that God wouldn't let him into heaven and now he said it was bad what he did.

 

‭Matthew 21:12-13 NKJV‬
[12] Then Jesus went into the temple of God and drove out all those who bought and sold in the temple, and overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold doves. [13] And He said to them, “It is written, ‘My house shall be called a house of prayer,’ but you have made it a ‘den of thieves.’ ”

https://bible.com/bible/114/mat.21.12-13.NKJV

Edited June 14, 2024 by RdJ

[Debp]

2 hours ago, ExactionForce10 said:

Out of all the supposedly thousands of people on this forum, I’m just having a convo with basically one guy. Something is not genuine about that at all.

So in your opinion, it's okay for a minister to say that " he dares to think that he's equal to Jesus?" 

Great, so money is god, I'm god, and I can think that I’m equal to Christ, and love money money money money. I love money I love money i love money, and there is no other god but me. 

And God doesn't care if I'm a good person or sin all the time, he only cares about how much money I tithe. 

I'm equal to Jesus, that is a good thing to think and preach, and believe.

I can't wait to tell the kids that they are equal to Jesus because of their tithes and that they don’t have to believe in God or go to church, all they have to do is send in checks of 10% to the local church, and they are right with God. And it's okay for them to be lovers of money. 

Okay, I’m learning a lot of good Bible from this forum

 

In your estimation, it's okay for a preacher to be shouting "I love money, I love money" in church because the bible says "love of money is bad?" 

What, then, would he have to say before you believe that he is a lover OF money. Now we are playing word games that hold no water.

later 

Of course we don't believe in the Prosperity Gospel.

Can you please tell us the name of the preacher you are talking about?   So we can view at least one of his videos.  Thanks.

[Neighbor]

40 minutes ago, Debp said:

Of course we don't believe in the Prosperity Gospel.

Can you please tell us the name of the preacher you are talking about?   So we can view at least one of his videos.  Thanks.

Perhaps some of the "we" do; but really what does it matter what  anyone else does regarding such things? Is God not capable  of moving his own about as he wills, when he wills?

Does not God make even that which may be intended for evil to instead do good for those that  believe on Him as Lord? If so then  even a Ken Copeland can be used of God, in spite of what may be taught by him or  any person including such pastors/teachers.

If I hear, as at one time many did, of the church at Jerusalem giving up all things, not returning to their homes to  tend their own crops and animals, while waiting for Jesus, do I give all I have for them, or part, or none? I may be encouraged to be generous to even a group that has fallen into a folly of a sort. Today it still really doesn't matter if it is  folly or not. For I do what  the Holy Spirit alerts me is  what I am to do at the time.

God it seems has me covered, and all that are his own too. I am not led to watch over another's shoulder to see what they are led into at the time.  Their purse and it's contents are none of my business, least not if I trust God's capacity to lead them just as he leads me, in the way  He deems fit for them as he does with me.

[RdJ]

17 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Perhaps some of the "we" do; but really what does it matter what  anyone else does regarding such things? Is God not capable  of moving his own about as he wills, when he wills?

Does not God make even that which may be intended for evil to instead do good for those that  believe on Him as Lord? If so then  even a Ken Copeland can be used of God, in spite of what may be taught by him or  any person including such pastors/teachers.

If I hear, as at one time many did, of the church at Jerusalem giving up all things, not returning to their homes to  tend their own crops and animals, while waiting for Jesus, do I give all I have for them, or part, or none? I may be encouraged to be generous to even a group that has fallen into a folly of a sort. Today it still really doesn't matter if it is  folly or not. For I do what  the Holy Spirit alerts me is  what I am to do at the time.

God it seems has me covered, and all that are his own too. I am not led to watch over another's shoulder to see what they are led into at the time.  Their purse and it's contents are none of my business, least not if I trust God's capacity to lead them just as he leads me, in the way  He deems fit for them as he does with me.

Some preacher had said decades ago that you had to say: Money cometh!  A woman in the church I went to had heard that and she needed money. She had to say it 5 times. Money cometh! And she really got 500 guilders (250 euro) LOL.