Heaven and Hell

[Forerunner]

I came across this question few weeks back, and i thought to share it here for more insight and biblical references

Question: Do you believe all your non-Christian friends are gonna go to Hell? How do you reconcile this with “people should be allowed to believe what they like”?

[Michael37]

8 minutes ago, Forerunner said:

I came across this question few weeks back, and i thought to share it here for more insight and biblical references

Question: Do you believe all your non-Christian friends are gonna go to Hell? How do you reconcile this with “people should be allowed to believe what they like”?

Typically this sort or question obscures the definition of hell, but as a Bible-believer I agree with the Scriptures that appoint all those unsaved to eternal damnation, also known as the second death, and choose not to be influenced by the normalising rhetoric of humanism which attempts to erode the foundations of the Christian Faith.

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The concept of the “second death” appears in the Book of Revelation in the New Testament. It is mentioned specifically in Revelation 2:11, 20:6, 20:14, and 21:8. Here are the key points:

1. Revelation 2:11: “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes shall not be hurt by the second death.”
2. Revelation 20:6: “Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.”
3. Revelation 20:14: “Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.”
4. Revelation 21:8: “But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

The “second death” is described as the final judgment and eternal separation from God, symbolized by being cast into the lake of fire¹²³. It represents the ultimate fate of those who are not redeemed and do not partake in the first resurrection¹³.[Copilot]

[Sower]

3 minutes ago, Forerunner said:

I came across this question few weeks back, and i thought to share it here for more insight and biblical references

Question: Do you believe all your non-Christian friends are gonna go to Hell? How do you reconcile this with “people should be allowed to believe what they like”?

No need to reconcile darkness with Light. God said you must be saved, born again, of His spirit.
I also once was lost, doomed to hell. But now I'm saved. God said believe in me and you shall be forgiven, saved.

          "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,
that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life"

Simple child like faith in God saves. Many do not want to change their lifestyle and nor want to hear the truth.

 

"Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, `You must be born again" 

 

"Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews.  This man came to Jesus by night and said to him, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God, for no one can do these signs that you do unless God is with him.”  Jesus answered him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”  Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God.  That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”    John 3:1-21

Yes, anyone not born again will not be with God after death. That is why we share the good news gospel.

                                    

 

                    "Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
         For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened"
                                                                                    Matthew 7:7-8

Hope I helped you Forerunner...

 

[ayin jade]

1 hour ago, Forerunner said:

I came across this question few weeks back, and i thought to share it here for more insight and biblical references

Question: Do you believe all your non-Christian friends are gonna go to Hell? How do you reconcile this with “people should be allowed to believe what they like”?

Christians are to spread the gospel. We cant force them to believe, but we can pray for them to believe. Ultimately I trust that God knows the heart and that He is just. 

The concept that folks should be allowed to believe what they like strikes me as a worldly view rather than a Godly view.

[AnOrangeCat]

1 hour ago, Forerunner said:

How do you reconcile this with “people should be allowed to believe what they like”?

There's no need to reconcile it at all. People are in fact allowed to believe what they like, but there are consequences. Even in the secular world consequences for acting on erroneous beliefs are a thing and the statement "people should be allowed to believe what they like" isn't without limitation.

Someone wants to make stew from poisonous mushrooms because he believes they're nutritious, delicious, and totally harmless.

Another person wants to get into the panda enclosure because he believes pandas crave human attention and would never hurt a human.

No one in their right mind is going to think people harboring beliefs along those lines are sane and that they should be allowed to believe what they like. They're out of touch with reality, and no matter how much they might believe something they can't change reality. The world draws lines on how far that goes. God has also drawn lines.

[Deborah_]

4 hours ago, Forerunner said:

I came across this question few weeks back, and i thought to share it here for more insight and biblical references

Question: Do you believe all your non-Christian friends are gonna go to Hell? How do you reconcile this with “people should be allowed to believe what they like”?

I'm going to assume that the question refers to religious belief (not the "poisonous mushrooms are nutritious" kind of belief).

From a secular/government point of view, people should be allowed to believe what they like - otherwise you get religious persecution. 

My belief is that non-Christians are facing the judgement of God and eternal destruction. Therefore I will try to persuade them to follow Jesus. But I can't force them to believe, and I won't persuade them by ramming Christianity down their throats. So if they reject Christianity, I have to allow them to do so - and I have to stay on good terms with them, in case they change their minds in the future.

I Peter 3:15,16

Edited August 11, 2024 by Deborah_

[enoob57]

6 hours ago, Forerunner said:

I came across this question few weeks back, and i thought to share it here for more insight and biblical references

Question: Do you believe all your non-Christian friends are gonna go to Hell? How do you reconcile this with “people should be allowed to believe what they like”?

It is given, by understanding of God's Word, to mankind truth or lie... it is that simple... if choosing lie you cannot be of truth vice versa ... Truth is of God and lie is of satan... choose you this day whom you will serve! 

[Inquiring Mind]

7 hours ago, Forerunner said:

I came across this question few weeks back, and i thought to share it here for more insight and biblical references

Question: Do you believe all your non-Christian friends are gonna go to Hell? How do you reconcile this with “people should be allowed to believe what they like”?

This two-part question is always a tough one and can get you in trouble with Christian fundamentalists real quick, as Billy Graham even discovered.  However, it's only tough when answered from the complexities of religious dogma, or man’s design of the requirements for entering Heaven. Somehow, I don’t believe God intended for it to be that complicated.  As to the first part of the question, even if you are not a Christian, lived in the pre-Christian era, or someone never exposed to the gospel, but seek and love God (as He makes himself known to you), repent of your sins and change direction, aren’t you still asking Him to save you no matter your religion or lack thereof?  Christian fundamentalists will quickly answer, oh but you must accept Jesus as your savior to be saved.  Yet, they will turn right around and say Jesus and God are the same…   As to the second part of the question, ‘believe what they like’ is too much of a stretch for me.

[Dennis1209]

Truth and consequences, reality, and deception: If I am representative of humanity, I have pondered who am I, why am I here, what is my purpose, and where am I going. In the history of time, I have only a vapor of time to form my faith and beliefs.

Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. (James 4:14)

Set apart from all other physical creation, we are given free will, and free choice. Set apart from the animal kingdom and all other life, we possess critical thinking, reasoning, calculation, creativity, and a spirit that can guide us and know right from wrong, truth from error.

The preceding to say, we have all the tools to discern truth and communicate it:

And the heavens shall declare his righteousness: for God is judge himself. Selah. (Psalm 50:6)

The Lord sends no one to Hell. We send ourselves by rejecting the free gift of eternal Salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, who died for us. We can save no one; only the Lord can. Our job is to go and tell, share our testimonies, plant the seed of Christ, and reason with them, similar to what Paul did on Mars Hill. We are all called; the ultimate eternal choice is our own.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. (John 3:16)

Every human being are the whosoever’s, by choice.

[TheBlade]

On 8/10/2024 at 9:58 PM, Forerunner said:

I came across this question few weeks back, and i thought to share it here for more insight and biblical references

Question: Do you believe all your non-Christian friends are gonna go to Hell? How do you reconcile this with “people should be allowed to believe what they like”?

No I do not. Well if you were blind you would have no sin. You say you see your sin remains Christ said.  What hell and heaven are we talking about? India alone has thousands of gods. Mormon have  another book, Muslims have Allah and Christ yet not the risen Christ. Catholics have Christ and Mary but I like what one man said "why can't Catholics be right about Jesus just wrong about Mary". So I think you get the point.  In one thread they are talking about abortion which we know is a sin yet what is the world telling them? Its not a life yet, no life in it at all. Kinda hard to judge someone when they don't know what they did wrong. 

I truly believe its so easy to be found (Saved) then lost. Like trying to teach someone about faith when they don't know the word of God.  Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God. So to have so many voices in this world about just GOD which one is He requiring them to believe? 

Lol this popped up in my head "How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!"

So He knows.