Afghanistan child brides

[other one]

9 hours ago, Debp said:

@Jayne @Neighbor Any comments on the video or other aspects of life in Afghanistan?   One member thinks life is very nice there.

If you are a dedicated Islamic male and agree with Sharia Law, one might consider it to be nice.  No one else. Females are second class citizens at best and are pretty much considered as servants to the male society. 

It's a little off subject of this thread, but I do not understand how any female could possibly promote Hamas and be considered to have any intelligence at all.

 

[Neighbor]

39 minutes ago, other one said:

you really need to do some serious research on Islam

No, No I don't. Thanks, been there already.

[Neighbor]

32 minutes ago, other one said:

If you are a dedicated Islamic male and agree with Sharia Law, one might consider it to be nice.  No one else. Females are second class citizens at best and are pretty much considered as servants to the male society. 

It's a little off subject of this thread, but I do not understand how any female could possibly promote Hamas and be considered to have any intelligence at all.

 

Hi all, Shouldn't Mars Hill stuff be contained solely within Mars Hill?

[other one]

19 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Hi all, Shouldn't Mars Hill stuff be contained solely within Mars Hill?

Don't start a fight. 

The future of this Nation may well depend on how much people here understand Islam, and it's written plans of how to overthrow the USA government and instill Sharia Law.  It's people like yourself that lets their plans progress.   When I pledged to defend the constitution when I joined the military, I didn't realize I might be fighting people like yourself, but I don't back off my pledges.  So please don't start a fight here. I have several thousand hours of printed material that we can discuss with folks if you want to push it.

[Neighbor]

7 minutes ago, other one said:

Don't start a fight. 

The future of this Nation may well depend on how much people here understand Islam, and it's written plans of how to overthrow the USA government and instill Sharia Law.  It's people like yourself that lets their plans progress.   When I pledged to defend the constitution when I joined the military, I didn't realize I might be fighting people like yourself, but I don't back off my pledges.  So please don't start a fight here.

The future of the USA will depend upon God.

Ha, God has  a wicked good sense of humor. Since I started to avoid and then also stated I will be avoiding  the tar babies on the pathway the number of them seems to be nearly doubling. LOL! Good one LORD.  Never say never I guess. But  will still try to avoid all the diversionary efforts, all the tar babies on the pathway.

[other one]

The Muslim Brotherhood in America: Part I –
Understanding the Threat

Posted by John Guandolo Mar 2nd 2011 at 2:10 pm in Foreign Policy, Homeland Security, Intelligence,
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It is now March of 2011. That jihadi attack on the United States is over nine years behind us. The declaration of
a global jihad from Iran in 1979 is over 30 years in our rear view mirror. The national security apparatus of the
United States has spent hundreds of billions of dollars to “make America safer,” yet we still have not defined our
enemy – or even tried. There is no place in the national security structure which has objectively evaluated the
threat doctrine of our enemy, and then created a strategic plan for victory for the United States – per U.S.
warfighting doctrine. This lack of strategic understanding of the nature of the threat we face is not only costing us
lives on the battlefield in wars with no realistically stated objectives, but so long as we drift aimlessly, we cannot
win and we allow the enemy to move our boat as he sees fit. That, is the enemy’s strategy. And he is executing
with great success.
Does anyone wonder how it is the U.S. military is crushing the enemy on the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan
(and elsewhere) daily, yet not winning the strategic war?
The United States continues to view the wars (the establishment sees this as several conflicts, not as one global
conflict) as kinetic engagements where guns, air power, drones, bombs, and other weapon of war are brought to
bear on “Al Qaeda terrorists” and others with whom we are engaged on the many battlefields around the world.
At the FBI, the focus is on preventing the next attack. While this is important, “attacks” are not the main focus of
effort for this enemy. Local and State Police are also focused on preventing attacks, the physical security of office
buildings, critical infrastructure, and the safety of important public figures. When the subject of an investigation is
found NOT to be involved in a plot to cause “violence” that case is closed and the investigator goes on to the next
one in the stack. This is where we are losing the war. While preventing a school bus bombing or the take-over
of a bank by Jihadis should be taken seriously by our law enforcement officers, from the enemy’s perspective,
these are tactical engagements, not strategic.
Every brand new intelligence officer in the United States military knows that when the United States evaluates a
threat, our doctrine drives us to begin our process with WHO the enemy says he is and with WHAT the enemy
says are HIS reasons for acting. That is where the U.S. analytical process begins – per our own doctrine. If we
had done this after 9/11, we would not have so much confusion about the enemy we are engaging.
One hundred percent of the enemy we are fighting states he is fighting “Jihad” in the “Cause of Allah” in order to
implement Islamic Law (Shariah). Therefore, U.S. analysts must begin here. Does Islamic Law exist? If so, what
does it say about “Jihad” and the requirements for Jihad? In fact, authoritative Islamic Law does exist. There are
not “a thousand interpretations” as the Muslim Brotherhood advisors tell our leadership. Islamic Law does define
“Jihad” and the requirements for Jihad. Islamic Law as defined by those using it to kill us and overthrow our
government necessarily becomes the “Stated Enemy Threat Doctrine.” As a 4-star general told me a few months
ago when I asked him what he thought about the fact that when Al Qaeda quotes Islamic Law they are always
accurately quoting Islamic Law: “Well, if that’s true, it completely changes the nature of the way we are fighting
this war.” Exactly.
Our entire national security apparatus is focused (fixed) on the threat of the violent Jihadis – Al Qaeda and the
hundreds of other jihadi groups throughout the world engaging U.S and allied troops on the ground around the
world.
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Our enemy has no intention of defeating us on the battlefield. The kinetic war being waged by organizations like
Al Qaeda, Hamas, and the many other jihadi groups is meant to bleed us, fix us in place, and create a strategic
distraction while the real war they are fighting is won in the information battlespace. While AQ fixes us in place,
the Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC) presses the U.S. – and the West at large – into a corner with a
stated foreign policy mirroring that of Al Qaeda. Who is the OIC? The OIC is the umbrella organization for every
Muslim nation in the world – 57 states (they count Palestine as a state). At the Head of State and King level the
OIC seeks to re-establish the global Islamic State (Caliphate) and implement Islamic Law. They have a 10-Year
Plan in English on their website that may begin shedding light on who they are and what they intend for the West.
In 1993, the OIC served an official treaty to the United Nations called the “Cairo Declaration” stating the OIC
defines “Human Rights” as Shariah (Islamic Law) – this is significantly different from the International Declaration
of Human Rights. In fact, the reason the International Muslim Brotherhood is calling for the death of Qaddafi is
because he is “killing Muslims without right,” a capital crime under Islamic Law, and an act defined as “terrorism”
by the OIC – that means the Head of State and King of every Muslim nation in the world has a parallel foreign
policy from the one they are discussing with our State Department, and our State Department does not have clue
one about it.
The International Muslim Brotherhood, the “vanguard” of the global Islamic Movement, is the leading edge of the
enemy’s assault on the United States and the West. The Muslim Brotherhood, like the OIC and Al Qaeda, seeks
to re-establish the global Islamic State (Caliphate) and implement Islamic Law (Shariah). You do not need a SCIF
or a “secure space” to pull this information up on a classified government system. All of the enemy doctrine can
be found on the worldwide web, in books, in speeches, in their training curricula, and coming out of their mouths
on a daily basis. We just need to listen. The Muslim Brotherhood’s creed includes the the phrase “…Jihad is our
Way, and martyrdom in the way of Allah is our highest aspiration.” The MB assassinated the Egyptian Prime
Minister in 1948, and the Egyptian security service killed MB founder Hassan al Banna on the streets of Cairo in
1949. Violence is inherent to MB operations, manifested in the “Special Section.” The “Special work” of the MB is
“Military work” – violence and warfare. Hamas was created out of the Palestinian Muslim Brotherhood as the
result of international MB meetings. Hamas is a designated terrorist organization. Recordings obtained by the FBI
of MB meetings in the U.S. reveal they have had weapons training camps here as early as the mid-1980’s. When
the MB says they have “renounced violence” they are – hold onto your hats – lying.
From several major terrorism trials in the United States, and other information, we now know nearly every major
Muslim organization in North America is controlled by the Muslim Brotherhood (MB) or a derivative group. We
know many are support entities for Hamas, and all of the Islamic organizations working with the U.S. government
are controlled by the MB. These include: the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), a Hamas support entity;
the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Hamas organization; the Muslim Students Associations
(MSA); the Muslim American Society (MAS); the Interntional Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT); the Islamic Circle of
North America (ICNA); the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC); the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT), a
Hamas support entity; and many other. We also know that the objectives of the MB mirror those of Al Qaeda.
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The MB’s doctrine is crystal clear on their objectives. The means for achieving these objectives is to wage a
“Civilization-Jihadist Process” – a “grand jihad” – to destroy us from within. They seek to co-opt our leadership in
all areas of our society – political, military, intelligence/law enforcement, media, religious. Civilization jihad by our
hands. When we see that the Islamic advisor to President Clinton was a Muslim Brother and an Al Qaeda
operative currently in federal prison, or that the MB runs the Shariah Compliant Financial programs for the U.S.
Department of the Treasury, or that senior policy advisors to Secretary Napolitano are Muslim Brothers, or that the
Assistant Director for the FBI’s Weapons of Mass Destruction Directorate is an Iranian-born Muslim, we see that
there are catastrophic security issue within the U.S. government and that - just maybe – the MB means what they
say.
During this series, we will go into painful detail to identify and describe the primary Muslim Brotherhood
organizations in the United States, especially those working with U.S. law enforcement, intelligence, and national
security organizations. We will also detail some of the individual within the U.S. system who are aiding and
abetting the Muslim Brotherhood, or at least unwittingly assisting them. The utter and complete catastrophic
failure of the very agencies charged with protecting us will be detailed over the next several weeks. If facts are
upsetting to you, please don’t read.

[other one]

1 minute ago, Neighbor said:

The future of the USA will depend upon God.

Ha, God has  a wicked good sense of humor. Since I started to avoid and then also stated I will be avoiding  the tar babies on the pathway the number of them seems to be nearly doubling. LOL! Good one LORD.  Never say never I guess. But  will still try to avoid all the diversionary efforts, all the tar babies on the pathway.

God gave us a country where we actually get to decide where it goes and made it our responsibility to take care of it.  People like yourself who sit back and expect God to do their work for them are a detriment to our society.   Even the Israelites had to go to war against the people that were invading them and when the Israelites were worshiping God he made sure they won.  You can't set around and do nothing and expect Got to do your work, it's never worked that way.

[other one]

BTW I have several thousand pages of data and material similiar to the above if we want to go through it and several books.

I can't post Sharia Law for it's it copywrited and several places in the UAE monitor my posts to make sure I don't post it as it was there I got a certified English translated copy of it in PDF format for free.   But as I started sharing it places I got legal S&D notifications I would be taken to court if I continued, so all I can do is recommend people read the Book "Reliance of the Traveller".   It's 1200 pages of English and Arabic side by side to explain how everyone in an Islamic country HAS to live.  Last time I checked, Amazon had it in hard copy for $75

[Alive]

16 minutes ago, other one said:

God gave us a country where we actually get to decide where it goes and made it our responsibility to take care of it.  People like yourself who sit back and expect God to do their work for them are a detriment to our society.   Even the Israelites had to go to war against the people that were invading them and when the Israelites were worshiping God he made sure they won.  You can't set around and do nothing and expect Got to do your work, it's never worked that way.

Agreed. As citizens at least we have obligations. In this era, we are still a world of nations and nations have characteristics.

Ours is unique and it’s a good thing to protect it. If for no other reason, the continuation of the Gospel going out into all the world from here.

[other one]

BTW @Neighbor I discuss this subject with Muslims over the world and get death threats over it and it doesn't stop me, so don't think you are going to have any success either unless you can get George to ban me.

"Mars Hill"     really?