Job 1:21 Does God takes away what He gave?

[TheBlade]

2 minutes ago, farouk said:

Hi @TheBlade There is a sense in which God sovereignty and the vast range of human experience (look at the Psalms, for example.....) runs to timeless proportions....and yet the Lord Jesus transcends them all.......

Hey farouk.. one word here just shines "sovereignty"... oh yes amen

[Deborah_]

We came into this world with nothing and we will leave it with nothing.

In between, everything that we possess is a gift from God - and it is all temporary. Even of we possess it until the day of our death, it won't be ours to keep.

Job recognises that he has no right to prosperity or happiness. God is free to grant or withhold these things, as He sees fit. And what is His to give is also His to take away.

[Gracejj]

5 hours ago, TheBlade said:

If we look at GOD through out the bible He always gives and never takes back what He gives. Be kind a twisted if you asked me to have a God that gives and takes

Please, Correct me if I am wrong, when King Saul was failing as a king didn't God planned to remove saul and give the kingdom to young shepherd David?  

I would see it as kingdom taken from one and given to the another one. Thats just one instance i remember when I was reading your reply. 

And even if God's take away  (we donno why) wouldn't it be His Sovereignty. Bcos He is sovereign God. We may not know the answer..yet. 

Thank you brother for replying! 👍

[farouk]

13 minutes ago, Gracejj said:

Please, Correct me if I am wrong, when King Saul was failing as a king didn't God planned to remove saul and give the kingdom to young shepherd David?  

I would see it as kingdom taken from one and given to the another one. Thats just one instance i remember when I was reading your reply. 

And even if God's take away  (we donno why) wouldn't it be His Sovereignty. Bcos He is sovereign God. We may not know the answer..yet. 

Thank you brother for replying! 👍

@Gracejj This did happen, but David was also still very respectful of the Lord's anointed king and not eager to take on the role before his time (1 Samuel 24.6).

[farouk]

@Gracejj Thanks for the 'like'. There is an imponderable aspect to Divinely ordained circumstances; where we cannot understand we must trust (Proverbs 3.5-6).

[BibleStudent100]

17 hours ago, Gracejj said:

The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.”

Job did not know why those calamities had come upon him. Job mistakenly concluded that in some way “God himself [had] given, and God himself [had] taken away.” (Job 1:21) Possibly, Satan deliberately sought to give Job the impression that it was God who had caused his affliction.  But as we know and was unknown to Job, Satan was testing Job's integrity and God was allowing it.  So Job was confused at that moments and this verse underscores Job's inability to understand the whole picture.
 

[FreeGrace]

On 8/15/2024 at 1:17 PM, Gracejj said:

Job 1:21
And he said, “Naked I came from my mother's womb, and naked shall I return. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.”
I have heard two different interpretation of this verse and which is completely confusing to me. 
What does this scripture says about God's actions?
Some say this scripture means God has given everything and God can take it away those things. 
Some say that it means God  gives good things(prosperity, healing, wisdom etc) and God takes away other things (sickness, depression, worries, sorrows, pain, bad situations, fear, financial lacks etc etc).
So what is the true essence and meaning behind this scripture.  I want to know true heart of God. Its okay if its something different than I usually perceived before. I am open to adapt.  
What matters most with these kind of scripture is that we need to know what does it says to us about God. How can  we get more closer to Him. 

I read all the responses.  Seems the focus is on trials.  However, it is clear in both ch 1 and 2 that Job wasn't being tested at all.  Rather, God was proving to Satan as well as the rest of the angels that Job wasn't faithful to God because of God's blessings.  iow, Satan accused God of bribery essentially, and Job just a man who could be bribed.

God allowed Satan to take everything away and then to allow Satan to affect his health in the most profound negative way possible.  And none of this resulted in Job losing his faith, in spite of the very bad advice of his wife, or his 3 friends.  

So God proved Satan to be wrong in front of all the angels.  Then God blessed Job with MORE than he had before what he endured.

[Neighbor]

Hi,

Test, trial, tempt, and tribulation, are not the same word; are they?

[Loving God Under Trials]

 From James; Blessed is the man who endures temptation; for when he has been approved, he will receive the crown of life which the Lord has promised to those who love Him.  Let no one say when he is tempted, “I am tempted by God”; for God cannot be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone.  But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires and enticed.  Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.

 Do not be deceived, my beloved brethren.  Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.  Of His own will He brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.

 

[D. Adrien]

The second line of Job 13:15 also show that Job suffered from self righteousness. (ESV),

15Though he slay me, I will hope in him;
yet I will argue my ways to his face.

By the end of the book he's been cured of it:

Job 42: 1-6, (ESV),

 

1Then Job answered the Lord and said:

2“I know that you can do all things,
and that no purpose of yours can be thwarted.
3‘Who is this that hides counsel without knowledge?’
Therefore I have uttered what I did not understand,
things too wonderful for me, which I did not know.
4‘Hear, and I will speak;
I will question you, and you make it known to me.’
5I had heard of you by the hearing of the ear,
but now my eye sees you;
6therefore I despise myself,
and repent in dust and ashes.”