Zechariah 14:21...any insight?

[SwordMaster]

So, I am reading Zechariah, and I came upon Zec. 14:21 which says...

"And every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holy to Yahweh of Hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and take of them and boil the meat of the sacrifice in them. And there shall no longer be a trader in the house of Yahweh of hosts on that day."

 

So...by the context of the rest of the chapter, this refers to a time AFTER the Tribulation period, either during the Millennial Kingdom or afterwards. My confusion is this (which I am looking to see if anyone has any insight upon)...why is anyone sacrificing any animals here? Christ has already put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself, so I fail to see why anyone would be sacrificing anything for any reason during the days addressed by the verse.

Any insights by anyone here? Thanks!

 

[AdHoc]

24 minutes ago, SwordMaster said:

So, I am reading Zechariah, and I came upon Zec. 14:21 which says...

"And every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holy to Yahweh of Hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and take of them and boil the meat of the sacrifice in them. And there shall no longer be a trader in the house of Yahweh of hosts on that day."

 

So...by the context of the rest of the chapter, this refers to a time AFTER the Tribulation period, either during the Millennial Kingdom or afterwards. My confusion is this (which I am looking to see if anyone has any insight upon)...why is anyone sacrificing any animals here? Christ has already put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself, so I fail to see why anyone would be sacrificing anything for any reason during the days addressed by the verse.

Any insights by anyone here? Thanks!

 

Man is faced with accepting what Jesus did for mankind or not. If he accpts what Jesus did and confesses it, the complete work of Christ is applied to that man. If the man refuses the work of Jesus the things Jesus did are not applied to him. The believer has two big things done for him. His sins are put away AND he is made ritually clean to be in Emmanuel's presence. In Zechariah 14:16–17 we read;

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

The survivors of Armageddon must come up annually for the Millennium to Jerusalem and worship Jesus. For this they need to have their sins released AND they must be ritually clean like the High Priest was on Yom Kippur. Now 1st John 2:2 says that Christ's death was enough for the sins (plural) of the world. It does not mean that they are forgiven. It means that God may apply Christ's death how He likes JUDICIALLY. But Christ's death ONLY makes the Church clean (John 13). Those of Israel who are not resurrected, and the survivors of Armageddon are NOT CLEAN. This is where the animal sacrifices come in. They do not put away sins (Heb.10:4). But they make clean the Flesh of the unbeliever:

13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh (Heb.9:13).

For the sake of clarity, I repeat, The blood of animal sacrifices DOES NOT take away sins. But it DOES cleanse the flesh. Anybody in the Millennium who lives or works near Emmanuel and who did not believe in the age of grace, must be cleansed ritually. The cleansing by Jesus does NOT apply to them

 

[SwordMaster]

Interesting...that had not occurred to me when I was reading it.

Thank you!

[farouk]

5 hours ago, SwordMaster said:

So, I am reading Zechariah, and I came upon Zec. 14:21 which says...

"And every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holy to Yahweh of Hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and take of them and boil the meat of the sacrifice in them. And there shall no longer be a trader in the house of Yahweh of hosts on that day."

 

So...by the context of the rest of the chapter, this refers to a time AFTER the Tribulation period, either during the Millennial Kingdom or afterwards. My confusion is this (which I am looking to see if anyone has any insight upon)...why is anyone sacrificing any animals here? Christ has already put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself, so I fail to see why anyone would be sacrificing anything for any reason during the days addressed by the verse.

Any insights by anyone here? Thanks!

 

Some commentators speak in terms of memorial sacrifices along the lines of Levitical offerings.

[D. Adrien]

10 hours ago, AdHoc said:

Man is faced with accepting what Jesus did for mankind or not. If he accpts what Jesus did and confesses it, the complete work of Christ is applied to that man. If the man refuses the work of Jesus the things Jesus did are not applied to him. The believer has two big things done for him. His sins are put away AND he is made ritually clean to be in Emmanuel's presence. In Zechariah 14:16–17 we read;

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

The survivors of Armageddon must come up annually for the Millennium to Jerusalem and worship Jesus. For this they need to have their sins released AND they must be ritually clean like the High Priest was on Yom Kippur. Now 1st John 2:2 says that Christ's death was enough for the sins (plural) of the world. It does not mean that they are forgiven. It means that God may apply Christ's death how He likes JUDICIALLY. But Christ's death ONLY makes the Church clean (John 13). Those of Israel who are not resurrected, and the survivors of Armageddon are NOT CLEAN. This is where the animal sacrifices come in. They do not put away sins (Heb.10:4). But they make clean the Flesh of the unbeliever:

13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh (Heb.9:13).

For the sake of clarity, I repeat, The blood of animal sacrifices DOES NOT take away sins. But it DOES cleanse the flesh. Anybody in the Millennium who lives or works near Emmanuel and who did not believe in the age of grace, must be cleansed ritually. The cleansing by Jesus does NOT apply to them

 

This is the best explanation that I've ever heard or read. Thank you, AdHoc!

[AdHoc]

15 hours ago, farouk said:

Some commentators speak in terms of memorial sacrifices along the lines of Levitical offerings.

The thing that stumble many students of scripture is how God runs His household. The Greek word is "oikonomia" which means "dispensing" and from which we get "dispensation". The human mind likes things to be in one row, so the thought that God could be running more than one way of dispensing at a time is foreign. But it is so. It says that the Law and the Prophets wee until John Baptist but that does not mean that God's dispensing by Law is over. Far from it. In Luke 22 emphatically states that He will partake of the Passover in the Millennium "until all might be fulfilled" (v.16). That quickly negates the theological theory that all is fulfilled by Jesus. What is true is that Jesus fulfilled all things but Israel DID NOT.

This leads inescapably to the fact that the "dispensing" by Law is still valid. The salvation work done by Jesus is complete and valid, BUT ONLY FOR THOSE WHO ACCEPT JESUS. For instance, Jesus is rightfully King of Israel. But it still awaits fulfillment. In actual fact when one sees what is happening to the Jews today, it is patently obvious that Israel have broken the Law and are being subjected to its penalties. Israel are fulfilling the Law negatively.

The nations are to be judged by their conscience. God's dispensation of conscience will go on until Magog at the end of the Millennium. Thus, God is dealing with men in at least three ways - at the same time. This begs the question then; did Israel fulfill "all things". Let the tragedies that befall them still today answer. Israel is dictated to by Law and the New Covenant predicted in Jeremiah 31 is a Covenant of Law. Since not one jot or tittle of the standing Law will be removed, Israel is under Law and will be under Law till Magog.

This does not in anyway hamper Christ's work. But it clearly shows that Christ's work is only applied to them who seek and confess Him.

[Dennis1209]

The following is how I view it, but first, let us break this down and put it together in context. Initially, everyone entering the millennium will be believers in Christ. At the end of the Tribulation, the wheat will be separated from the tares, and the goats will be separated from the sheep. In other words, the surviving tribulation tares and goats will be killed off. The nations will be judged based on their treatment of Israel.

• Who? The Jews. The 1/6^th remnant of Israel that God protected through the Tribulation and is allowed to enter the millennium. Noah and the seven (remnant) were protected through global judgment. Enoch was protected from global judgment. Christians will be protected from the worst time in history or ever will be (a.k.a. the harpazo-caught up-rapture).
• What? Restoration and continuation of the Hebrew-Jewish sacrificial system.
• When? The millennial reign of Emmanuel (God is with us).
• Where? The Millennial Temple, God’s capital of the world, the holy city of Jerusalem, and the confines of the borders of the greatly expanded Judah.
• Why? Honoring and memorializing Christ, these sacrifices will look back to His death, just as the sacrifices before Him looked forward to His coming.

John the Baptist came preaching the Kingdom of Heaven, followed by Jesus preaching the Kingdom until it was apparent the offer would be rejected; therefore, it was postponed and delayed.

At that time, the Kingdom was offered to the Jews only, not the Gentiles. Because the Jews rejected the offer and crucified their Messiah, we Gentiles were grafted into the Vine to provoke jealousy, known as the Age of Grace (the church age). Thus far, this dispensation has lasted about two millennia.

Christ’s redeemed, those saved by Grace, covered by the blood of the Lamb, were not, are not, and will not be covered or participate in the millennial sacrificial system for God’s chosen people, Israel. In the millennial reign of Christ, those saved by faith under the blood of Christ will be kings and priests.

@AdHoc I hold slightly different views (as scholars and theologians debate) on whether Christian entrance and participation in the millennial Kingdom are reward-based and works-based. I do not claim to have the correct view, but it is my exegesis.

[luigi]

On 10/15/2024 at 6:19 PM, SwordMaster said:

So, I am reading Zechariah, and I came upon Zec. 14:21 which says...

"And every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holy to Yahweh of Hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and take of them and boil the meat of the sacrifice in them. And there shall no longer be a trader in the house of Yahweh of hosts on that day."

 

So...by the context of the rest of the chapter, this refers to a time AFTER the Tribulation period, either during the Millennial Kingdom or afterwards. My confusion is this (which I am looking to see if anyone has any insight upon)...why is anyone sacrificing any animals here? Christ has already put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself, so I fail to see why anyone would be sacrificing anything for any reason during the days addressed by the verse.

Any insights by anyone here? Thanks!

 

For there to no longer be any trader in the house of Yahweh of hosts on that day;--would mean that money is no longer used there.

I think this would therefore correlate with when people cast away their idols of gold and silver (Isaiah 31:7).

Isaiah 31:7 For in that day every man shall cast away his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which your own hands have made unto you for a sin.

[AdHoc]

9 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

The following is how I view it, but first, let us break this down and put it together in context. Initially, everyone entering the millennium will be believers in Christ. At the end of the Tribulation, the wheat will be separated from the tares, and the goats will be separated from the sheep. In other words, the surviving tribulation tares and goats will be killed off. The nations will be judged based on their treatment of Israel.

• Who? The Jews. The 1/6^th remnant of Israel that God protected through the Tribulation and is allowed to enter the millennium. Noah and the seven (remnant) were protected through global judgment. Enoch was protected from global judgment. Christians will be protected from the worst time in history or ever will be (a.k.a. the harpazo-caught up-rapture).
• What? Restoration and continuation of the Hebrew-Jewish sacrificial system.
• When? The millennial reign of Emmanuel (God is with us).
• Where? The Millennial Temple, God’s capital of the world, the holy city of Jerusalem, and the confines of the borders of the greatly expanded Judah.
• Why? Honoring and memorializing Christ, these sacrifices will look back to His death, just as the sacrifices before Him looked forward to His coming.

John the Baptist came preaching the Kingdom of Heaven, followed by Jesus preaching the Kingdom until it was apparent the offer would be rejected; therefore, it was postponed and delayed.

At that time, the Kingdom was offered to the Jews only, not the Gentiles. Because the Jews rejected the offer and crucified their Messiah, we Gentiles were grafted into the Vine to provoke jealousy, known as the Age of Grace (the church age). Thus far, this dispensation has lasted about two millennia.

Christ’s redeemed, those saved by Grace, covered by the blood of the Lamb, were not, are not, and will not be covered or participate in the millennial sacrificial system for God’s chosen people, Israel. In the millennial reign of Christ, those saved by faith under the blood of Christ will be kings and priests.

@AdHoc I hold slightly different views (as scholars and theologians debate) on whether Christian entrance and participation in the millennial Kingdom are reward-based and works-based. I do not claim to have the correct view, but it is my exegesis.

It is fine and well to differ. In Ephesians 4 we are to expect a long time "TILL" we come to the unity of THE faith - that is, the unity of what we believe. Here's my counter to some of your points - with respect and the sure knowledge that I could be wrong.

The reward of being a king in the Millennium is WORKS-based (Matt.24:46 the faithful servant is found "SO DOING", Lk.19:17-19 was earned by diligence. Rev,2:26-27 is because one "Overcame and kept His WORKS")

The earth population during the Millennium is as follows
The kings; Christ and those who earned it
The servants. Israel is host nation to Emmanuel. The saints who went through the Great Tribulation and were matured by its fire (Rev.7)
The chastised of the Church; IN outer darkness and weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth
The "sheep* of Matthew 25 are "ALL Nations" who treated Christians and Jews well during the Beast's reign (Rev.12)
The "goats" of Matthew 25 are "ALL Nations" who refused help to the Christians and Jews who were in trouble during the Great Tribulation. They are not "killed off" They go alive to the SECOND Death like the Beast
The Tares; Are counterfeit Christians. They are harvested BEFORE the wheat (Matt.13, Rev.17)
The Subjects of the Kingdom; One third of the Gentiles will survive the Great Tribulation
The Nations will breed. Many gentiles will be added to the world's population
There will be no war and long life. The earth's population will grow exponentially
Magog's rebellion will cause many deaths at the end of the Millennium

I judge that our main difference is that you believe in a pre-Tribulation rapture for the whole Church. I believe that there is a "special resurrection" and the "PRIZE of the Upward call" for Overcomers (Phil.3:9-14, Rev.20:1-6). But the effect is the same. Your belief leaves the earth without the gospel and my belief leaves the saints impotent (Rev.13:7). The majority hold your view.

[missmuffet]

On 10/15/2024 at 3:19 PM, SwordMaster said:

So, I am reading Zechariah, and I came upon Zec. 14:21 which says...

"And every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holy to Yahweh of Hosts, so that all who sacrifice may come and take of them and boil the meat of the sacrifice in them. And there shall no longer be a trader in the house of Yahweh of hosts on that day."

 

So...by the context of the rest of the chapter, this refers to a time AFTER the Tribulation period, either during the Millennial Kingdom or afterwards. My confusion is this (which I am looking to see if anyone has any insight upon)...why is anyone sacrificing any animals here? Christ has already put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself, so I fail to see why anyone would be sacrificing anything for any reason during the days addressed by the verse.

Any insights by anyone here? Thanks!

 

Important passages and reminder that the Messiah will one day rule over all; it also

illustrates how important holiness is the the Lord.