Downfall of America and Israel in 2027

[enoob57]

reminds me of the song my achey breaky heart
except it my head

[GodIsLife]

8 hours ago, Tristen said:

I understand looking to the heavens for "signs" (Gen 1:14, Lk 21:25), but I'm not following the point or logic of your argument.

You tell us that the path of two recent solar eclipses crossed each other over the American continent. You "believe" this "mark" means "destruction". You have not filled-in the gaps of logic required to justify this conclusion. Then you say, "Listen. Yes, listen. I have more to tell you". 

Well, OK - I should hope you have more "to tell" - since you haven't really written anything of notable substance yet.

You then tell us 3 things:

1 - that the first eclipse occurred on the Hebrew New Year. OK - what is the significance of this?

2 - that "Pluto returned to America" during the second eclipse. Again - what does this mean? Surely the proximity of Pluto to America is the proximity of Pluto to the whole earth.

3 - that "Pluto represents birth and death". We are therefore expected to derive prophetic meaning from the fact that a minor-planet, which was named less than 100 years ago after the Greek god of the underworld - has some notable proximity "to America"? These are massive, incredulous leaps of logic.

 

You then say, "Listen, listen, i have more to tell you"

Well good - because what you have given so far is nebulous at-best.

And what's with all this "Listen, listen" nonsense? Are you trying to dramatically posture like a prophetic orator? This is written work. You should instead be saying something like, "keep reading" - or better still, just say what you have to say without all the posturing.

You go on to tell us that two upcoming lunar eclipses will occur during the time of Purim in 2025 and 2026. That is actually interesting. You are correct that Purim stems from the Esther narrative.

But then you present obscure factoids to propose the ill-supported conclusion that "the book of Esther represents separation from God". Whereas the clear theme of Esther (for anyone who reads it) is God protecting the Jews from destruction through His divine providence. 

 

"Listen, because I have more to tell you" 

:(

Anyways - In 2027, there will be a full solar eclipse in the "Middle East" on the Hebrew month of "Tammuz" (the same month the walls of Jerusalem were breached twice previously).

OK - but the full solar eclipse doesn't actually cross Jerusalem - or even any part of Israel. It will run across Northern Africa, then take a path through Saudi and Yemen.

https://www.timeanddate.com/eclipse/map/2027-august-2

That seems a very imprecise sign of God against Jerusalem/Israel.

Next, we have an "asteroid" arriving a year too early for a significant event. Again, that seems very imprecise for a sign of God. Doesn't that push your predictions out to 2028?

Furthermore, there was no point in 1947 when "Jews captured the first lands in Palestine". Jews had been immigrating to Israel since the early 1800s - even buying up abandoned land from the failing Ottoman Empire. In 1947, there was a "Two-State" UN resolution. The truly significant event was in 1948 - when Israel declared independence - i.e. when God reinstated the ancient Jewish nation and homeland. But this makes your "asteroid" two years too early - pushing your predictions further out to 2029.

 

"But this is not all"

Of course not.

You claim that Av is "when the Neo-Babylonians (587/6 BCE) and the Romans (70 CE) destroyed Jerusalem". That is inaccurate. The walls of Jerusalem were breached by these armies during Tammuz. In Av (three weeks later), the Romans destroyed the temple.

 

"I believe America/Israel is Babylon of Revelation"

But your above date references are about Israel (Jerusalem and the temple) being destroyed by Babylonians and Romans. I can't understand how you are logically putting these ideas together. It doesn't make sense to me.

 

"And I believe that an islamic alliance will destroy Babylon in 2027"

What??? Where does "an islamic alliance" fit into this?

 

I'm not saying you are wrong, but what you have presented here is a disjointed mess.

And even if true, Jesus Christ, the King of kings (and our Lord) remains seated on His throne until the appointed time.

Jeremiah 10:2
Thus says the Lord: “Do not learn the way of the Gentiles;
Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven,
For the Gentiles are dismayed at them.

As I said before, I believe these signs announce a coming destruction. There are so many things happening in the sky regarding America and Israel that you should at least admit that it is strange. If you and others see it differently and don't see a  coming destruction, then that's your interpretation. But we know that before the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE, strange things were also happening in the sky.

We must not forget that America is the world power. America's sins are very serious. America's history began with genocide and America has spread a lot of spiritual poison through Hollywood.

[Revelation Man]

On 1/2/2025 at 5:44 AM, GodIsLife said:

The Declaration of Independence of the USA was signed in 1776. The orbital period of Pluto is 248 years. 1776 + 248 = 2024

I don't believe in everything astrology says.

Look to the bible and figure out what THE PROPHESIES MEAN, when God said He used the sun, stars and moon for SIGNS, here is what He meant. The Stars can be used as Navigation Sign Points, the Sun of course gives the world its  Days/Nights/Seasons years,  etc. etc. and finally THE MOON was God's way of setting up "God Time" with ONLY Israel, a New Moon brought in a Feast, the 7 Feasts were SIGNS unto Israel and now the world and Israel that God via a SEED (Jesus) that would be His son, born unto a human woman, would FULFILL ALL SEVEN (7) of these Feasts, no kidding.

Jesus Fulfilled the Thee Spring Feast via his first coming

1.) Feast of Passover (whatever the actual Hebrew name is his is not important tbh, his blood covers us from all of our sins)

2.) Feast of Unleavened Bread (Jesus knew NO SIN)

3.) Feast of First-fruits (Jesus was the first-fruits of the dead)

Summer Harvest

4.) Feast of Weeks/Summer Harvest/ Church Age/Pentecost (Jesus himself is currently fulfilling this as the Head or High Priest of the Body/Church in heaven as we speak, sitting at the Right Hand of the Father. He via us the Church are doing what during the Church Age? What is our mission? HARVESTING SOULS......See how it all meshes brother? This process was all FORETOLD via the 7 Feasts before Israel ever knew what they mean, as a mater of fact if the understood them the would have seen Jesus for whom he was. Jesus will fulfill this in full then guess what happens next in the 7 Feasts, the Feast of Trumps !! THINK THE LAST TRUMP, Paul knew exactly what he was saying via Jesus coming at the Last Trump. That is why in Rev. 4:1 AFTER the Church Age Jesus sounds as a TRUMP and tells Paul to COME UP HERE, its the Pre Trib. Rapture)

5.) Feast of Trumps ( Jesus will call HIS BRIDE to Heaven, the Fathers Bride Israel only repents during the 70th week, that is why the Feast of ATONWMENT come next, LOL get it? Its a Unique Pattern  that can not be missed. When the New Moon came in the Feast of Trumps started, BUT.........since Israel are the Moon Cycle of Lunar Time or God Time as I call it, they could never know the EXACT DAY............NOR HOUR the Feast of Trumps would start, via the Sun they all knew when a Sunset came a new day started, of course. But a Moon Phase gets less and less and until you get a New Moon, so Israel sent two men into the hills to WATCH for the New Moon Cycle, lets say it could happen on a Tuesday just before sundown, or on a Wed. just after sundown, or just after sundown on Thursday, that LAST SLIVER needs to go away, so you can see now what Jesus was "REALLY SAYING" when he said no man knows the day nor the hour, he was pointing unto the Feast of Trumps which always ended the Summer Harvest or Church Age. So, the Rapture will come at the Feast of Trumps)

6.) Feast of Atonement (Israel MUST ATONE or Repent before Jesus returns at the 2nd Coming. Zech. 13:8-9 says 1/3 of 5 million Jews repent, the 144,000 is simply a CODE for ALL Israel as 12 equals fulness and 10 equals completeness so 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 means Fulness x Completeness or the 144,000 CODE, just like the 10 Virgins represent Complete Christendom. In Zech. 14:1, just ONW VERSE after Israel repents via Jesus' blood, we see that the Day of the Lord ARRIVES. So, Israel repents during the 70th week AFTER the Pre Trib. Rapture. All my Post Trin guys never answer any of this because it DESTROYS their narratives, they pretend its just not a factoid of the bible. But as we know the Feast of Trumps comes before the Feast of Atonement)

7.) Feast of Tabernacles (to TABERNACLE with God means to DWELL WITH God and Jesus is God the Redeemer, so Jesus rules from Jerusalem for 1000 years, I call that Dwelling with God)

So, as you see, Jesus fulfills all 7 Feasts, these understandings are the REAL SIGNS. 

 

[farouk]

19 hours ago, Michael37 said:

They are to be expected . . . 

Well, yes................

[Tristen]

11 hours ago, GodIsLife said:

As I said before, I believe these signs announce a coming destruction. There are so many things happening in the sky regarding America and Israel that you should at least admit that it is strange

I said, "I understand looking to the heavens for "signs" (Gen 1:14, Lk 21:25)" and, of your claim regarding upcoming lunar eclipses on Purim, "That is actually interesting" and "I'm not saying you are wrong".

I endeavored to give a sincere, fair-minded assessment of your arguments.

 

11 hours ago, GodIsLife said:

If you and others see it differently and don't see a  coming destruction, then that's your interpretation

I did not attempt to provide an "interpretation" of my own. I simply assessed the rational merits of your position - and found your arguments to be lacking in logical cohesion.

Therefore, it is not just a matter of 'equally valid but conflicting interpretations'. I am instructed by scripture to "test all things" (1 Thessalonians 5:21). Your "interpretation" - as presented - does not survive the "test" of rational scrutiny.

 

11 hours ago, GodIsLife said:

But we know that before the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 CE, strange things were also happening in the sky

As previously stated, based on scripture, I have no problem looking to "the sky" for "signs".

My main issues with your presentation are as follows:

1 - You are reading ideas into the evidence that require too many degrees of external interpretation between the "sign", and your conclusion about what the "sign" means.

2 - You are attempting to smash ideas and evidence together that don't seem to fit - logically speaking.

 

Furthermore, I don't need to look to "the sky" to see the diminishing influence of Christianity and civilization in the world. There are plenty of "signs" right here on earth - that the powers of the world are intent on driving civilization into "destruction". On top of which, we also have scripture detailing the "End Times" through Biblical prophecy.

 

11 hours ago, GodIsLife said:

We must not forget that America is the world power. America's sins are very serious. America's history began with genocide and America has spread a lot of spiritual poison through Hollywood.

The logic fallacy you employ here is called a Red Herring argument. Nothing in your above statement is relevant to how you are interpreting the "signs" in "the sky". It simply reveals you to have an anti-American bias.

It is also notable that your response here made no attempt to engage with my arguments.

Furthermore, you have yet to articulate a point. What is the goal of you telling us about the supposed "destruction" of America and Israel?

We Christians trust in Almighty God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

[Retrobyter]

On 1/2/2025 at 9:44 AM, GodIsLife said:

The USA was founded by Jews. Columbus was a Jew. Mordecai Sheftall was a Jew. Haym Solomon was a Jew. And many more were Jews. USA is Israel.

Shalom, @GodIsLife.

While it is true that some of the founders of the USA were Jews, there were many others from other lands, as well, particularly England. Even if you're some Armstrongite, a person who believes in Herbert W. Armstrong and his Worldwide Church of God who also believed in the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel theory of being scattered as wide as to England and from there to the USA, the USA is NOT primarily the children of Israel. While it is true that the USA has a large population of children of Israel, the children of JUDAH were "Jews!" The children of Joseph, through either Ephraim or Manasseh, were NOT "Jews!" The northern tribes of Israel were carried off to the land of the Medes by Sennacherib the son of Sargon II of neo-Assyria in 722 B.C.E. When you see people with the last name of Levi (or Leviy) and Cohen (meaning "priest"), they are most likely from the Tribe of Leviy that was scattered among all the children of Israel as God's priests throughout all the Land.

So, you should say that the "USA was PARTIALLY founded by SOME Jews." At one point in our history, they even considered making Hebrew our national language, but it was dismissed by sheer numbers. We had more people who spoke English than there were those who spoke Hebrew. Besides, at the time, Hebrew was still the religious language of the Jews and had not yet been revived as a national language.

So, get your facts straight, and don't be so dismissive of the USA on imaginary grounds!

[Dave Watchman]

On 1/1/2025 at 7:02 PM, GodIsLife said:

Ladies and Gentlemen,

something strange is happening in the sky. Listen. Listen very carefully. There were two total solar eclipses over America within 7 years. The first was in August 21, 2017. The second was in April 8, 2024. Together both total solar eclipses form a mark over America, see here: https://nationaleclipse.com/blog/images/map-2017-2024.png. A mark over America. But for what marked? I believe for destruction. Listen. Yes, listen. I have more to tell you. April 8, 2024 was a special day, because on that day was Nisan 1. Nisan 1 is the biblical New Year. And not only that, in 2024, after 248 years (1776), Pluto returned to America. Pluto represents birth and death. Listen, listen, i have more to tell you. There will be two total lunar eclipses over America. The first is on March 14, 2025. The second is on March 3, 2026. Both are special days in the biblical calendar, because both are on Purim. Purim comes from the book of Esther. The book of Esther is the only book of the 66 books of the Bible where God is not mention once. And in fact, the book tells that Mordecai and Esther were idol worshippers, for the name of Mordecai means "Servant of Marduk" and the name of Esther is a derivation of the name Ishtar. Moreover, the book tells that Mordecai was the one who started the conflict by disrespecting Haman, see Esther 3:2-3. So you can see that the book of Esther represents separation from God. Listen, because I have more to tell you. On August 2, 2027 there will be a total solar eclipse over the Middle East. August 2, 2027 is in the biblical month of Tammuz, it's the same month when the Neo-Babylonians (587/6 BCE) and the Romans (70 CE) have breached the walls of Jerusalem. And on August 7, 2027 an asteroid (1999 AN10) will come very near to Earth again. The last time this asteroid came very near to Earth was in 1946, just one year later in 1947 the Jews captured the first lands in Palestine. But this is not all. August 7, 2027 is in the biblical month of Av, it's the same month when the Neo-Babylonians (587/6 BCE) and the Romans (70 CE) destroyed Jerusalem.

I believe America/Israel is Babylon of Revelation. And I believe that an islamic alliance will destroy Babylon in 2027.

I like reading your note, good job. A good watchman watches in all directions, but the Babylon of Revelation is not America/Israel. I promise that I'm pretty sure of this one. An Islamic alliance will never destroy America. Lol. Islam is just a small part of the symbolic Babylon of Revelation. Even though the USA is not Babylon, Babylon is still in the USA. America is the earth who helped the woman, a place prepared by God to nurture the Christian Church after the dark ages in Europe ended. We are the only nation complete with a Bible Belt. And though I can't really say we shouldn't worry about the USA being destroyed, because I think we're even closer to that time than 2027, when the time comes for God to destroy the destroyers of the earth. Somewhere in that enigmatic text, the earth gets destroyed, when the Rock not formed by human hand smashes everything to smithereens. 

My AI in the Brave Browser pins Babylon pretty good:

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Babylon of Revelation

In the book of Revelation, Babylon is often used symbolically to represent a system of evil, both religiously and politically. The term “Babylon” in Revelation 17 and 18 does not refer solely to the ancient city but is a metaphor for a powerful and corrupt entity that influences the world negatively.

 

The USA is responsible for more of the printing, translation, and distribution of the Bible around the world, and more Christian Missionary services than any other nation on earth. Does that really sound like a "corrupt entity that influences the world negatively"?  I can't see anything in your note that would let me pinpoint a specific year for something to happen. Eclipses, and asteroids, and the biblical month of Av. Lions and tigers and bears, oh my. Did the Wizard of OZ predict WW2 in 1939? Nation against nation and kingdom against kingdom? Sorry, but I digress. I do agree with you, there is a lot going on right now. For sure.

I'd rather avoid saying what I think the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation are about, and instead focus on the prophetic time periods themselves of when they have, and are, and will occur. There's other items which let me count Biblical spans of time from the middle ages which are much more compelling to consider driving a conclusion that the things are happening prior to 2027, or are even happening now. But a thing I just recently noticed is that if we are counting from 1535, or 1536, or even 1537, back when those years were happening people did not celebrate New Years in January like we just did. New Years back then was still from March 25 to April 1 on the Julian deal. Pope Gregory's Gregorian didn't begin until 1582. Back then the crowns were still on the heads of the composite beast. Now the crowns have shifted to the horns, the governmental side of Babylon.

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When does the new year begin? Is it January 1 or April 1? For centuries, each new year began on April 1, the day designated by the Julian Calendar developed by Julius Caesar in 46 BC. Eight day New Year's celebrations started on March 25 and ended with large parties on April 1. In 1582, however, Pope Gregory XIII moved New Year's Day to January 1. He issued a papal bull requiring everyone to follow his system known as the Gregorian Calendar.

Was the world ready for such a big change? Citizens in predominantly Catholic countries such as Spain, Portugal, and Italy obeyed Pope Gregory XIII and began to celebrate January 1 as the first day of a new year. Protesters who disagreed with pope's decision insisted on keeping April 1 as the date for their new year's celebrations. When these protesters took to the streets to dance, sing, and shout on April 1, they were called April Fools for having new year celebrations on what many believed to be the wrong day.

https://www.catholic365.com/article/44586/will-the-new-year-start-on-january-1-or-april-1-the-new-year-brings-april-fools-.html

 

When God does a thing it becomes Holy, not that the thing is holy so that God does it. Like when the Commander of the Lord's army told Joshua to take the sandals off his feet for the place where he stood was holy ground. Joshua’s act of obedience and reverence is highlighted in that passage.

In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue, there were four blood moons and God was opening up a new continent. A flood was spewing forth from the Dragon's mouth but with the help of men like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson a holy place, the "earth", would be made ready to help the woman, the Bride, after 1260 years of papal persecution came to an end in 1798. The first nation on the planet complete with a "Bible Belt" was to be born when it was previously illegal to be caught with one. In 1776 America was founded and would become a safe place for God's People to own, print and study their Bibles. Prior to this in the dark ages of Europe, entire villages of Christian men, women and children had none of these religious freedoms and were burnt at the stake more often than not for reading, or owning, or translating their own Bibles. This was the Dragon chasing the woman and these estimated 75 million or more Christian martyrs would become the 5th seal souls beneath the alter. Lucifer was the hand that used the early church like a glove which hit the woman very hard during the middle ages. The founding fathers of the USA made sure that church and state were separate, America! America! God shed His Grace on thee.

This land was made for you and me.

Peaceful Sabbath.

[WilliamL]

On 1/2/2025 at 5:09 PM, GodIsLife said:

If Paul really believed that Israel will be saved then why did he say in Romans 9:3 that he would sacrifice himself to save Israel, his own people according to the flesh? Why would he say something like that if he as you claim believed that Israel will be saved?

Seriously? Paul was wanting to see the salvation of Israelites IN HIS OWN ERA, not at some time in the far distant future. Pretty obvious, IMHO. But you only read in the passage what you already believe, not what is actually there.

On 1/2/2025 at 5:09 PM, GodIsLife said:

how do you explain that Jesus himself said that the kingdom of God will be taken from the Jews and given to a new people?

Again, the difference was between that period of time, as opposed to the time after the Parousia.

[Luther]

On 1/1/2025 at 7:02 PM, GodIsLife said:

Ladies and Gentlemen,

something strange is happening in the sky. Listen. Listen very carefully. There were two total solar eclipses over America within 7 years. The first was in August 21, 2017. The second was in April 8, 2024. Together both total solar eclipses form a mark over America, see here: https://nationaleclipse.com/blog/images/map-2017-2024.png. A mark over America. But for what marked? I believe for destruction. Listen. Yes, listen. I have more to tell you. April 8, 2024 was a special day, because on that day was Nisan 1. Nisan 1 is the biblical New Year. And not only that, in 2024, after 248 years (1776), Pluto returned to America. Pluto represents birth and death. Listen, listen, i have more to tell you. There will be two total lunar eclipses over America. The first is on March 14, 2025. The second is on March 3, 2026. Both are special days in the biblical calendar, because both are on Purim. Purim comes from the book of Esther. The book of Esther is the only book of the 66 books of the Bible where God is not mention once. And in fact, the book tells that Mordecai and Esther were idol worshippers, for the name of Mordecai means "Servant of Marduk" and the name of Esther is a derivation of the name Ishtar. Moreover, the book tells that Mordecai was the one who started the conflict by disrespecting Haman, see Esther 3:2-3. So you can see that the book of Esther represents separation from God. Listen, because I have more to tell you. On August 2, 2027 there will be a total solar eclipse over the Middle East. August 2, 2027 is in the biblical month of Tammuz, it's the same month when the Neo-Babylonians (587/6 BCE) and the Romans (70 CE) have breached the walls of Jerusalem. And on August 7, 2027 an asteroid (1999 AN10) will come very near to Earth again. The last time this asteroid came very near to Earth was in 1946, just one year later in 1947 the Jews captured the first lands in Palestine. But this is not all. August 7, 2027 is in the biblical month of Av, it's the same month when the Neo-Babylonians (587/6 BCE) and the Romans (70 CE) destroyed Jerusalem.

I believe America/Israel is Babylon of Revelation. And I believe that an islamic alliance will destroy Babylon in 2027.

Very interesting read. I knew something was very odd with the book of Esther and even wondered if it should be in the Bible ( not that I would ever advocate removing it because I do believe that everything in the Bible is there by God's will). 

No mention of God, Lord , love, or anything that would show an attribute of His glory. I also know that the celebration of Purim has a real vengeful, unGodly feel to it. In other words, Christians wouldn't celebrate the mass extermination of innocent people that did nothing wrong to them. 

[Luther]

2 minutes ago, Luther said:

Very interesting read. I knew something was very odd with the book of Esther and even wondered if it should be in the Bible ( not that I would ever advocate removing it because I do believe that everything in the Bible is there by God's will). 

No mention of God, Lord , love, or anything that would show an attribute of His glory. I also know that the celebration of Purim has a real vengeful, unGodly feel to it. In other words, Christians wouldn't celebrate the mass extermination of innocent people that did nothing wrong to them. 

You said: "I believe America/Israel is Babylon of Revelation."

I do believe there is an alliance for sure. You look at just about every administration since Woodrow Wilson and you can see a disproportionate representation based on their population percentage. 

Look at Trump's administration for example. Everyone who was selected had to pledge their support for Israel. And if you didn't you weren't considered. 

Thomas Massey is the only one that has not accepted money from AIPAC.