The Mystery of Power in the Tower of Babel and the Whore of Babylon

[Ogner]

'Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. As people moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there. They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.” But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.” So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called Babel —because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth. '

Genesis 11:1-9

The mindset of the people living at that time was shaped by a recent event—the "worldwide flood," which had cleansed the earth of impurity and freed the first descendants of Noah’s sons—Shem, Ham, and Japheth—from fierce competition. The flood was the greatest psychological trauma for them, the grandchildren and great-great-grandchildren of Noah, not because the healthy foundation on our planet had lost something, but because their mothers, during the flood, had lost their depraved fathers, mothers, sisters, and brothers, and perhaps lovers, to whom they were painfully attached. Also perishing in the floodwaters were the "spiritual" teachers who taught contrary to the truth and brought about their own destruction. Women unconverted to God, seeking to shield themselves from fear, decided to act in the spirit of their civilization, which had perished in the floodwaters.

 

Having had the opportunity to witness God’s righteousness, they nonetheless did not believe—though only verbally!!—God’s promise that there would never again be a worldwide flood ("I establish My covenant with you, that never again shall all flesh be destroyed by the waters of a flood, and never again shall there be a flood to destroy the earth... this is the sign of the covenant... <...> ...there will be a rainbow in the cloud" [Genesis 9:11–16]). Instead, they tried to address spiritual matters in their own way—deciding to build a tower higher than the potential floodwaters could reach.

 

As for the more intellectually advanced portion of the population, the leaders of the post-flood world only verbally disbelieved God’s promise. Historical leaders, of course, were not thinkers, but it’s hard to believe they were so utterly foolish as to not realize that building a tower was futile in the sense that there could be no place to hide from God. However, the leaders’ words about the need to build the tower for safety were a deliberate lie, catering to the fantasies and expectations of the crowd. This conscious deception masked the true reason for the tower’s construction—to justify the necessity of leaders and hierarchy as a whole.

 

Indeed, while the structure had little practical or everyday purpose, it was immense. Just organizing the delivery of building materials to the top required the strictest discipline—a rigid hierarchy. It was impossible for some to hoist loads upward by rope while others simultaneously tried to lower empty containers. This demanded a supervisor for each section, someone to decide who had priority. And over the small supervisors, a bigger supervisor was needed. And so on, up to the supreme leader—Napoleon, Stalin, Hitler, the chief.

Hierarchy is always underpinned by ideology. The construction leader had the ability to convince others that building the tower was necessary. And all the workers believed him. The success in shaping the first post-flood form of a state (universal) religion was determined by shared traumas—of both the first leader and his subordinates.

The construction was planned to span centuries (after all, the builders’ great-great-grandfather Noah had built the ark for 120 years—so prepare yourselves, brethren, for great sacrifices in the name of the state). The main goal of the leader during the construction of the Tower of Babel was not the tower itself, but the process of its construction, the result of which would be a new psychological state for the workers. Over centuries of obeying the orders of superiors, the entire population was meant to develop, through this construction, a mindset not merely soldierly, but brutishly soldierly—or, better yet, ultra-super-duper-brutishly soldierly.

God’s purpose. The universal source of goodness needed to save people from themselves, from their involuntary devotion to the leader. But how could this be done?

 

Destroying the tower would not only fail to benefit them but, on the contrary, would fulfill the subconscious desire of their leader: it would extend the construction timeline, which was desirable for further drilling the already "happy" builders’ minds.

Kill the leader? The people would simply choose another just like him.

Destroy the hierarchy?

Eliminating the principle itself was impossible until the time of Jesus Christ’s coming.

Destroy this specific hierarchy? But how?

God destroyed it—brilliantly. He performed a miracle: instead of one language, He created many. The single language vanished, and the leader’s subordinates could no longer remain so: they ceased to understand commands.

And the workers dispersed in sorrow, and God allowed it. "And the Lord scattered them from there over the face of all the earth; and they stopped building the city."

The confusion of languages was only partly a curse; to a far greater extent, it was a blessing.

Is globalization a reconstruction of the Tower of Babel system as a harbinger of the end times?

 

[other one]

3 hours ago, Ogner said:

Is globalization a reconstruction of the Tower of Babel system as a harbinger of the end times?

Back in the mid 80s when interfacing with the New Age Religion people who moved into the UN to work for globalization, when asked about what they were doing admitted they were setting up a structure for the antichrist.

I can see where it might be considered a harbinger.

Also, we have translation apps on our phones where we can all talk with one another as they did there.

[Ogner]

20 minutes ago, other one said:

Back in the mid 80s when interfacing with the New Age Religion people who moved into the UN to work for globalization, when asked about what they were doing admitted they were setting up a structure for the antichrist.

I can see where it might be considered a harbinger.

Also, we have translation apps on our phones where we can all talk with one another as they did there.

God will destroy the system of the Babylonian harlot just as He destroyed the system of the Tower of Babel. The way God will destroy the Babylonian harlot is described in the Book of Revelation: 'The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfilled' (Revelation 17:16–17, NIV).

What is the Babylonian harlot?"

[chirpy]

5 hours ago, Ogner said:

Is globalization a reconstruction of the Tower of Babel system as a harbinger of the end times?

yes

[Revelation Man]

On 3/21/2025 at 10:43 AM, Ogner said:

'Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. As people moved eastward, they found a plain in Shinar and settled there. They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.” But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.” So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. That is why it was called Babel —because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth. '

 

Question, why would building a TALL TOWER threaten God's desires for mankind on earth? I mean, they could never build it too high, heck no higher than what we have now, so what did the Tower of Babylon really symbolically mean? It meant KNOWLEDGE. By confusing the languages the knowledge of mankind could not become exponentially greater in a short timeframe, thus allowing God's 6000 year plan to come to fruition in full. 

As soon as we got Computers knowledge did what? ZOOM, ZOOM, ZOOM  !! Because it overcomes language barriers and mathematical equations in a much faster way. The Computer/Internet made us one peoples worldwide again, working together to bring evil mankind's schemes to pass in unison.

It was never a tower per se God was stopping, but the knowledge to do great things together, like building a tower. If God had not confounded the languages, who knows, we might very well have had first gotten Computers 4000 years ago instead of 50-100 years ago.

Edited March 23 by Revelation Man

[Ogner]

15 minutes ago, chirpy said:

yes

Have you already come out of the system of the Whore of Babylon?

Revelation 18:4 (KJV): "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."

 

[Ogner]

15 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

Question, why would building a TALL TOWER threaten God's desires for mankind on earth? I mean, they could never build it too high, heck no higher than what we have now, so what did the Tower of Babylon really symbolically mean? It meant WKNOWLEDGE. By confusing the languages the knowledge of mankind could not become exponentially greater in a short time, thus allowing God's 6000 year plan to come to fruition. 

As soon as we got Computers knowledge did what? ZOOM, ZOOM, ZOOM  !! Because it overcomes language barriers and mathematical equations in a much faster way. The Computer/Internet made us one peoples worldwide again, working together to bring evil mankind's schemes to pass in unison.

It was never a tower per se God was stopping, but the knowledge to do great things together, like building a tower. If God had not confounded the languages, whom knows, we might very well have had first gotten Computers 4000 years ago instead of 50-100 years ago.

Thousands of years have passed, but humanity has not changed in its essence. After the flood, people multiplied, and God gave them a chance to start anew, but they once again turned away from the Truth. The Tower of Babel remained in the past as a symbol of pride, yet its spirit has been reborn in the modern world—in capitalism. Today’s corporations, skyscrapers of financial centers, and the endless race for profit are the new Tower of Babel, built not from bricks and tar, but from money, technology, and human labor.
As in ancient times, the construction of this "tower" is meaningless from the perspective of eternity. Capitalists, like the leaders of Shinar, do not believe in God’s promises of justice and salvation. They exploit the fears of the masses—fear of poverty, competition, instability—to justify their power and hierarchy. Workers, managers, top executives—all are subservient to a system where every brick of profit is laid upon the shoulders of millions. But who needs this tower? Not humanity, but those who stand at its summit, reaping benefits from the process rather than the outcome.
The leaders of Babel used the lie of security as a tool of control. Likewise, modern elites instill the notion that economic growth, consumption, and progress are necessities, though in reality, this leads to extinction: ecological, demographic, spiritual. Capitalists do not care that their "tower" destroys the planet and the souls of people, just as the leaders of Babel cared nothing for the Truth. What matters is immediate profit, power, and the illusion of greatness. As it was then, the process of construction outweighs the result: endless cycles of production and consumption forge a hyper-ultra-soldierly mind, where a person becomes a mere cog in the system, forgetting about God.
The crowd deludes itself into believing that technology, science, and medicine will protect them from the supposed wrath of God. They think that science and technology can save them, just as the Tower of Babel was thought to have saved them from a new flood.
God confused the languages to destroy the first tower. Today’s world is similarly fractured: cultural, ideological, and economic barriers hinder the unity of the "capitalist Babylon." Yet the elites persist in building, ignoring the signs—crises, protests, natural disasters—just as the ancient builders ignored the rainbow. Perhaps God will intervene again, or humanity will destroy its own tower, but as long as it stands, it remains a symbol of detachment from the Truth.

 

[Revelation Man]

4 hours ago, Ogner said:

Thousands of years have passed, but humanity has not changed in its essence. After the flood, people multiplied, and God gave them a chance to start anew, but they once again turned away from the Truth. The Tower of Babel remained in the past as a symbol of pride, yet its spirit has been reborn in the modern world—in capitalism. Today’s corporations, skyscrapers of financial centers, and the endless race for profit are the new Tower of Babel, built not from bricks and tar, but from money, technology, and human labor.
As in ancient times, the construction of this "tower" is meaningless from the perspective of eternity. Capitalists, like the leaders of Shinar, do not believe in God’s promises of justice and salvation. They exploit the fears of the masses—fear of poverty, competition, instability—to justify their power and hierarchy. Workers, managers, top executives—all are subservient to a system where every brick of profit is laid upon the shoulders of millions. But who needs this tower? Not humanity, but those who stand at its summit, reaping benefits from the process rather than the outcome.
The leaders of Babel used the lie of security as a tool of control. Likewise, modern elites instill the notion that economic growth, consumption, and progress are necessities, though in reality, this leads to extinction: ecological, demographic, spiritual. Capitalists do not care that their "tower" destroys the planet and the souls of people, just as the leaders of Babel cared nothing for the Truth. What matters is immediate profit, power, and the illusion of greatness. As it was then, the process of construction outweighs the result: endless cycles of production and consumption forge a hyper-ultra-soldierly mind, where a person becomes a mere cog in the system, forgetting about God.
The crowd deludes itself into believing that technology, science, and medicine will protect them from the supposed wrath of God. They think that science and technology can save them, just as the Tower of Babel was thought to have saved them from a new flood.
God confused the languages to destroy the first tower. Today’s world is similarly fractured: cultural, ideological, and economic barriers hinder the unity of the "capitalist Babylon." Yet the elites persist in building, ignoring the signs—crises, protests, natural disasters—just as the ancient builders ignored the rainbow. Perhaps God will intervene again, or humanity will destroy its own tower, but as long as it stands, it remains a symbol of detachment from the Truth.

 

Overthinking it..........God confounding the Language simply limited knowledge from going forth speedily. Take a million computers and put a computer code in them where they can't communicate and you just stymied knowledge from being spread. 

 

Babylon itself is different, that is God referring unto Satan's Dark Kingdom of Confusion on earth. Rev. 16:19 mandates that is what it has to be. The Tower is totally different.

[chirpy]

5 hours ago, Ogner said:

Today’s corporations, skyscrapers of financial centers, and the endless race for profit are the new Tower of Babel

What you describe is greed. 

I see the tower of babel representing arrogance and denying God.  Their hearts had grown cold and they were saying we no longer need a God, we can accomplish things and get along just fine without a God. 

Today, globalization imparts the same arrogance and denial of God.  With our science and evolution into transhumanism  we can become gods.  We humans can govern and manage without God and all will be fine.

History is replete with examples of the ineptitude of humans being able to self govern.  You are correct in that human nature does not change, and that is why only God can govern.  

And He will through His Son Jesus, be the final governor.

[Ogner]

6 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Overthinking it..........God confounding the Language simply limited knowledge from going forth speedily. Take a million computers and put a computer code in them where they can't communicate and you just stymied knowledge from being spread. 

 

Babylon itself is different, that is God referring unto Satan's Dark Kingdom of Confusion on earth. Rev. 16:19 mandates that is what it has to be. The Tower is totally different.

Your comment is intriguing, but I think it oversimplifies the situation with the Tower of Babel and underestimates its symbolic depth, especially in the context of parallels with the modern capitalist system. Yes, God confounding the languages limited the rapid spread of knowledge, as you said—it’s akin to putting a million computers with incompatible codes, stunting the dissemination of information. But it wasn’t just a technical barrier. In Genesis (11:1–9) and the analysis I provided earlier, it’s clear that the tower’s purpose—"to make a name for ourselves" and avoid being scattered—was an act of pride and defiance against God. The confounding of languages wasn’t merely about slowing progress; it was divine intervention against humanity’s attempt to exalt itself above God’s will.

As for Babylon being "Satan’s Dark Kingdom of Confusion on earth" from Revelation 16:19, I agree it’s a distinct image—the Babylonian harlot represents a broader system of corruption and power. However, the Tower of Babel and the Babylon of Revelation are linked by a common theme: human pride and the pursuit of autonomy from God, which resonates with capitalism. The capitalist system, with its skyscrapers, corporations, and race for profit, mirrors the spirit of the tower—a drive for greatness and control, often through exploiting the masses and ignoring the Truth. The confounding of languages can be likened to modern divisions—cultural, economic, ideological—that undermine the unity of this system, yet its elites persist in building onward.

Thus, the tower and the harlot are different expressions of the same spirit that thrives in capitalism. This isn’t "overthinking" but rather an attempt to see the profound connection between biblical lessons and our time.