Dino and the Ark.

[Knight of Christ]

Dinosaurs were hunted to extinction after the landing of the Ark, in combination with sparse food resources and fierce competition for the same. Anyone ever notice how the dragon (great lizard) myths concentrate around the middle east and become less common the further you travel from the "epicentre"?

There is just a few thing wrong with this idea.

Hunted down? please the things where as tall as skyscrapers, and longer than 10 tractor trailers end to end what in the world makes you think the 12 indvuadules are going to be able to kill even one espicealy if you concider the leval of tecnolagy that they had to work with. I mean for crying out loud the first bow's and arowrs wuldent even be invented for nearly another 50,000 years and to kill something that large with such a small groupe each person would need a high powerd rifle and would need to be expert mmarks men at that, all they had to work with where stone hatches and cruldly made spears What makes you think thouse are going to be able to even scrach the skin of a beast of that sise.

Not to metion the fact that the first Dragon Tales orginated from europeand then not till the start of the middel ages.

[JesusisGod2]

lol@other one, i was serious in my comment.......was the unicorn really away playing?

Anne, I'm sorry. I was just having a bit of fun and making the point that we really don't know from scripture what happened to them.

I personally think that there is a lot of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, and a lot happened between the two. I don't think there is any proof of it, but things in the real world just don't line up with scripture unless there is a lot that happened before the Father gave the Word the OK to replinish this earth and create Adam and Eve.

Don't really care who disagrees, for in reality it doesn't make any difference in salvation and does give me quite a peace of mind over it all.

But the Unicorn really was out playing......

Hey Lord, we got your green aligators and long neck geese............. but we just couldn't find no unicorns. Irish Rovers.

Hi Otherone,

I too agree with the fact there was a lot of time and possibly devine judgement between Genesis 1:1 and when God said let there be light. I have posted a little on my thoughts above.

As you say there really isnt any solid proof to this, nor is there any real mention of how old the earth really is, God does not see it as important for us to know this at this time for ever Hie reasonning, however we do know that mans existance is not millions of years old.

[other one]

lol@other one, i was serious in my comment.......was the unicorn really away playing?

Anne, I'm sorry. I was just having a bit of fun and making the point that we really don't know from scripture what happened to them.

I personally think that there is a lot of time between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2, and a lot happened between the two. I don't think there is any proof of it, but things in the real world just don't line up with scripture unless there is a lot that happened before the Father gave the Word the OK to replinish this earth and create Adam and Eve.

Don't really care who disagrees, for in reality it doesn't make any difference in salvation and does give me quite a peace of mind over it all.

But the Unicorn really was out playing......

Hey Lord, we got your green aligators and long neck geese............. but we just couldn't find no unicorns. Irish Rovers.

Hi Otherone,

I too agree with the fact there was a lot of time and possibly devine judgement between Genesis 1:1 and when God said let there be light. I have posted a little on my thoughts above.

As you say there really isnt any solid proof to this, nor is there any real mention of how old the earth really is, God does not see it as important for us to know this at this time for ever Hie reasonning, however we do know that mans existance is not millions of years old.

I would agree with that..

[Gerioke]

Dinosaurs were hunted to extinction after the landing of the Ark, in combination with sparse food resources and fierce competition for the same. Anyone ever notice how the dragon (great lizard) myths concentrate around the middle east and become less common the further you travel from the "epicentre"?

There is just a few thing wrong with this idea.

Hunted down? please the things where as tall as skyscrapers, and longer than 10 tractor trailers end to end what in the world makes you think the 12 indvuadules are going to be able to kill even one espicealy if you concider the leval of tecnolagy that they had to work with. I mean for crying out loud the first bow's and arowrs wuldent even be invented for nearly another 50,000 years and to kill something that large with such a small groupe each person would need a high powerd rifle and would need to be expert mmarks men at that, all they had to work with where stone hatches and cruldly made spears What makes you think thouse are going to be able to even scrach the skin of a beast of that sise.

Not to metion the fact that the first Dragon Tales orginated from europeand then not till the start of the middel ages.

Early man used to drive Mammoths off the edge of cliffs. Indians did he same hing with buffalo. I can't see why early hunters couldn't drive a dino to it's death. Even Dinos would have had an insinctive fear of man if they were contemporary with one another.

[Knight of Christ]

For some of the smaller like the Trisaratops or the Stagasoures maby. But what about the pedatoral ones like the raptores or T-Rex they are not going to be frighetond of us rather puney humans niether would the Bracasore it is not a predator but the thing was more than a hundred foot tall and weing almost a hundred times more than that of the spermwale wich is cruently the largest animal of the planet. sticks and stones are not going to scare that thing off I can promies you that for sure. Becides not even the mathmos could be driven off it it where protceting the young, for dinosares it would be no diffrent.

The momth was only maby twice the sise of there cousins the africian elefant and the bufflow not much larger that are own domestac cattale nither would be hard for a hunting party of about 20 ppl to take down with speers. But A donosar is something compleatly diffrenf becouse on like those othere mamals there skin although may have the texture closer to that of an elephant is going to be a lot tuffer more like the strenght of the Crocidial or Alagator (they are prety much dinosoars themselve giveing that the spices is as old as all the others would have been.)

The reasion that you don't see a compleated skeletion in the mesuaomus is becouse most of the fassoils that are found are already damaged becouse of something els befor the foisalitan prosses could be compleated weather, earthquakes, other animals picking meat of the bones after the thing died, so there for they would be too week to be stood up and assembled to do so would cause a saftey problem. Not ot mention the fact that a lot can be damaged wile trying to dig the things up they may be rock or stone now but they are still the weakest type of rock, closer to granit or sandstone made up of compressed partcels unlike other types of rock wich are all one element with trace amounts of metals like gold, silver, copper, iron ext ext ext.

Edited December 4, 2005 by Knight of Christ

[Guest NewPilgrim]

Knight said:

Hunted down? please the things where as tall as skyscrapers, and longer than 10 tractor trailers end to end what in the world makes you think the 12 indvuadules are going to be able to kill even one espicealy if you concider the leval of tecnolagy that they had to work with. I mean for crying out loud the first bow's and arowrs wuldent even be invented for nearly another 50,000 years and to kill something that large with such a small groupe each person would need a high powerd rifle and would need to be expert mmarks men at that

a few overlooked issues:

1) Not every dinosaur was a T-Rex or Brontosaurus (the likes of which would have died from lack of food resources) i.e. After the flood the only remaining dinosaurs would have been the ones on the ark, meaning that there were not that many smaller dinosaurs for carnivores to feed on making them harder for Rex to HUNT and catch, especially when he's hungry and tired. Herbivores would suffer too as much vegetation would be ruined by the great flood. The premise of this domino effect is a widely accepted reason for the extinction of the dinosaurs anyway, but is usually attributed to a meteor strike or an ice-age, rather than a great flood.

2) The Ark landed after the flood around 5,000 years ago. Technology was advanced enough to build boats the size of football stadiums and towers the width and height of small villages (see Babylonia) :-)

3) Said technology would be ample for the hunting of smaller, fierce dinosaurs for trophies (such as the infamous raptor which ranged from the size of a dog to about 6 ft tall) for food and out of fear. You know most animals can be killed when stabbed through the eye or the temple.

The Dragon Myth:

Widely held to originate in EGYPT around 3,000 BC (Roughly the same period as the flood/Ark)

Also common in Babylonian culture around 2,000 BC

Chinese Dragon Myth and culture seems to have its genesis between 2,000 and 1,000 BC

From These 3 main points of Origin the culture spreads out through India, Eurasia, Europe and eventually the Americas.

Check an atlas, it paints an interesting picture :-)

[JesusisGod2]

You know I keep hearing this "ice-age" theory ever since I was in school. (you know, the same schools that now totally exclude God) And yet there is no mention of an ice age or a meteor hiiting earth in the scriptures.

I know this has been taught and ingrafted in our minds through so-called education, however they also teacch that evolution ids fact too.

I myself do not believe that there ever was an ice age.

In Genesis 1 it speaks of water covering the earth and later in Genesis it speaks of the earth again being covered with water, I dont recall anything that mentions an ice-age.

This is a theory and there is no proof, however, more and more is proved of a great flood and water covering the earth. I believe that something of this significance would be mentioned in the scriptures.

[penfold]

I know this guy who is really into this and it does actually matter because it is great to talk to non christians about it.

From what he says- the flood was sent to destroy all the earth and the nephalim which were very tall giants. (skeletons been found) The canopy that protected the earth was released on the earth and flooded everything completely.

40 days and 40 nights of rain would not cover mountains- water came from above and inside the earth too.

Noah took some of each kind of animal into the ark. I guess it is the sunday school picture that gives us the idea that they were lions and tigers.

One thing is for certain. There are dino fossils and then there suddenly arent any. On huge even killed them all off. they were all stuck in loads of rocks, mud and sediment. Sounds like the result of a world wide flood to me!

There is only 1 ice age according to this creation science expert- directly after the flood. when lots of the flood water froze as the atmosphere allowed the earth to suffer extremes of temperature.

I am going to find this creatino science web site now- you have got me all interested!

[penfold]

I found this information on this site www.csm.org.uk

" Where did all the water come from for a global flood?

This question is a major stumbling block for many people, but surprisingly it has a simple answer. 70% of the earth is covered by ocean water that extend to a depth of approximately 3km. Simple mathematics shows that by compressing the earth

[Guest NewPilgrim]

Penfold, thats pretty much spot-on There are huge reserves of water under the earths crust which are super heated. Part of the flood scenario, scientifically, quite possibly involves these reserves pushing up through the earths crust:

Gen 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened

The combination of cold water and super-heated water in the atmosphere in huge amounts would quite possibly have played havoc with the climate. The flood rose for fourty days and remained for another 150...roughly 6 months. That's long enough for some parts to freeze over.

With regards to fossils. The scientists tell us that fossils are formed by small amounts of pressure over a long period of time, but you can produce exactly the same kind of fossils by exerting a huge amount of pressure over a short period. Water=VERY heavy, especially when it rises to over 5 miles above ground level worldwide (based on Mt Everest) A flood of such immense magnitude could easily create the fossilisation of bones, trees, etc. Which would also account for trees which were fossilised still upright and rooted.

Seriously, if you filled a bucket with water, various sediments and tiny plastic animals, then shook it, let it settle and let the water drain, you'd create a miniature of what archeologists and palientologists find all over the world.

Its fascinating stuff and the scientific community at large fails to recognise the premise. Not because it is scientifically implausable, but because recognising the reality of a worldwide flood would have massive implications which would laugh in the face of their own credibility.