Church of Christ

[MrSealedEternal]

Mark 16:16 could easily be a reference to the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and not water Baptism. It should also be noted that verses 9-20 in Mark 16 do not appear in 2 of the most trustworthy manuscripts (greek) of the NT. The doubtfulness of these verses makes it unwise to create a doctrine soley on the basis of what is found in these verses

Hi Eric

[RustyAngeL]

My feeling is that baptism is an act of following Christ, it has nothing to do with your salvation...Jesus on the cross is enough to save you and keep you secure.

[MrSealedEternal]

Mar 16:16 "He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.

Please note that it is the one who has both

[aaronjm]

This is one of those topics that people will argue over untill Yeshua's return. The only point I can add is, when I first found Yeshua as my savior, and I got down on my knee's and prayed to him for the first time, I could 100% feel the gift of the Holy Spirit, I was overwhelmed with so many emotions, and the feeling of acceptance that can only come from the Spirit. Later, when I was baptised, I felt nothing like that, I was just outwardly expressing my inward feelings on accepting Christ as my savior. Not to say that baptism isn't important, but it is not neccesary, in my opinion, for salvation, which comes by grace from G-d alone. I'm sure that almost every Christian has their story of first coming to Christ, and experiencing great joy, relief, and appreciation for the Savior, prior to being baptised. People baptise with water, but the Spirit of G-d baptises with fire.

Aaron

[Khristeeanos]

This is one of those topics that people will argue over untill Yeshua's return.

Did you know that the teaching that water baptism is into Christ for the remission of sins was the sole teaching for the first 1,500 years of Christianity?

The only reason people disagree is because false doctrine was introduced into the church only about 500 years ago by a man named Zwingli.

[MrSealedEternal]

This is one of those topics that people will argue over untill Yeshua's return.

Did you know that the teaching that water baptism is into Christ for the remission of sins was the sole teaching for the first 1,500 years of Christianity?

The only reason people disagree is because false doctrine was introduced into the church only about 500 years ago by a man named Zwingli.

Water baptism has never been taught by any true christian, because if you believe that sacramental works will save you, you aren't trusting Christ. Sacramental salvation is a Roman Catholic invention that is unscriptural and actually prevents salvation by causing people to put their faith in religious works rather than Christ's finished work. Baptizo is a Greek word that means "immersion." It is not translated in our English Bibles which causes confusion, and causes people to have water on the brain. Here's a perfect example

John 13:26 Jesus therefore answered,

[RGR]

This is one of those topics that people will argue over untill Yeshua's return.

Did you know that the teaching that water baptism is into Christ for the remission of sins was the sole teaching for the first 1,500 years of Christianity?

The only reason people disagree is because false doctrine was introduced into the church only about 500 years ago by a man named Zwingli.

Water baptism has never been taught by any true christian, because if you believe that sacramental works will save you, you aren't trusting Christ. Sacramental salvation is a Roman Catholic invention that is unscriptural and actually prevents salvation by causing people to put their faith in religious works rather than Christ's finished work. Baptizo is a Greek word that means "immersion." It is not translated in our English Bibles which causes confusion, and causes people to have water on the brain. Here's a perfect example

John 13:26 Jesus therefore answered,

[other one]

08But what does it say? "The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart"

[Kabowd]

Yay, another baptism thread

[Khristeeanos]

SealedEternal,

When did the Catholic church become the Catholic church?

Was it in AD 33 or about AD 300?