Drunkeness

[other one]

I realize 99.9% of christians believe it is a sin to get drunk. Probably the 1% aren't saved or just don't care. I have doubts...and I hate those. I realize everyone here will have a 100% strict answer but I don't have one. Maybe because I'm in college and everyone parties? I'm around it all the time? I'm not sure. But here's my doubt. It says in the bible that wine is a mocker...don't fall to drunkeness etc etc...where is the "do not get drunk" part? I can tell my friend, hey don't get wasted tonight you have an exam at 9am. It's obvious the right choice is to study and not go out. But he chooses to party and may or may not do well on the exam. His choice, none are wrong choices per say, one is obviously the better more "responsible" action, the other isn't. Not looking before pulling into traffic...not against the law per say unless you hit someone...obviously it's better to look and then cross. I've been drunk. It's fun. Sometimes I don't mean to..just happens..but if I do nothing wrong while drunk...say just watching a baseball game with a buddy of mine...where is the harm? I know about alcoholism but that's part of the smarter not to drink so much decision i've already gone over. I realize some think it's a sin to drink in any amount. I'm not looking for that either.

So I guess open the flood gates haha...but please be real honest...I'd rather have a hardcore response than sugar coating it.

God Bless...

Andrew

The human brain is a magnificent thing when it is alive and well and functioning properly. It takes in an enormous amount of information.... sorts through it and lets you make thousands of little decisions a minute. All the way from keeping your blood pressure in a livable range with the oxigen content proper, to "is that car coming down the road going to run over me."

The brain functioning has all kinds of safety checks to keep us safe and to keep us from doing things that will hurt ourselves or others.

When a person over drinks to the point of becoming "drunk" that person bypasses much of these safety checks and makes everyone who gets into this condition much more likely to do something that he/she should not do.

In the old testament days when the temple was active, the priests were not allowed to enter the temple if they had been drinking for fear of doing or saying something that would bring down the wrath of God on them and the land of Israel. Since we are now the temple and God resides within us through the Holy Spirit, then we should never over drink because if you are a born again christian, God is with you all the time..... So take care what position you put yourself into all through your life.

Is it a sin to be drunk..... I could not say that for certain, but you are responsible for every thing you say or do "or not do" no matter what the condition you are in. Any person in a drunken state is very vunerable to causing themselves much to be sorrowful for. Will getting drunk send you to hell...... probably not, but the things that you do, or things that happen that you should have not let happen could. It is not a sin unto death, but a very dangerous position to be in. When those safety checks are bypassed, Satan has a much better influence on you...... no matter who you are....

[Guest kylesmith]

As a Christian.......I do have some drinks every now and then. Its at home.

I serve others by being the designated driver when I go out with friends.

[peaches]

you are so right otherone. i saw my 18yr brother drunk for the first time ever last night (this morning actually, his friend brought him over at 1am). he started saying and doing a whole bunch of things that made no sense (e.g my mom was trying to find out what happened and he walked out on her saying he had to pee, he turned off the bathroom light and relieved himself, and walked out in his underwear). he kept yelling at my mom and telling her that he had serious problems and he was seeing his guidance councillor about them and that he wouldnt tell her what they where cos she wouldnt understand and she would tell everybody (that part is true). i have never seen my brother like that and it scared me so much. he is VERY quiet and reserved to the point of almost being a shy person and i wouldnt have expected him to act in such a way. i so dont know what to do or say to him. we usually dont talk about those kinds of things anyways. i guess i have been blind, he is probably going through a lot and i refuse to see it. the huge gash on his arm and the multiple cuts on his back sure says a lot....no one knows when they happened or how. we only saw them after they healed and he refused to tell my mom what actually happened. i absolutely dont know what to do. he never talks to anyone and never tells us whats going on. i guess he convinced himself that no one in this house understands.

*sigh*

[Gerioke]

How do you define drunk? I could have six beers and get totally pie eyed, but my 250 pound friend packs away 6 beers and blows nearly 0% on a breathalizer

Matthew 15

11 Not that which goes into the mouth defiles a man; but that which comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man.

1 Cor 6:12 All things are permissable but not all things are profitable.

Mark 7: 14 And turning to the people again, he said to them, Give ear to me all of you, and let my words be clear to you:

15 There is nothing outside the man which, going into him, is able to make him unclean: but the things which come out of the man are those which make the man unclean.

[Guest kylesmith]

Ya'll.......I truly believe that this is an issue between each one of us and God.

We know that a drunkard would be compared to an alcoholic.......being drunk all of the time. That isn't any of us on this string as far as I know.

Some of us on this string do not drink at all. This is fine.

Some of us on this string do drink, yes some of us do get drunk and some of us don't. There are so many circumstances in this gray area. I believe getting drunk can lead to further sin, but it all depends on where you are to me. If I am at home and drinking with my friends. None of us are going anywhere I don't see that as a big issue.

Again this gray area is something each one of us needs to take to the Father. We all need to pray and find out what are convictions are on this particular subject.

kms

[followerofjesus]

I know for me I have done unimaginable things when I used to drink I wouldn't do now. I was the chief of sinners. My wife in AA for 10 yrs. helps me repent.

I've only had 1 beer in last 12 mos. I don't miss the chaos it brought to me & the people in my life it ruined.

[Iryssa]

I've gotten drunk three times in my life....Lord help me to never let it happen again. It was NOT a pleasant experience. Apart from doing stupid things and saying things I wouldn't normally say, it made me very sick...it also made me crave oranges. I did discover that I tend to have a mothering instinct (I was SO drunk one time, and yet I NEEDED to find some fresh ginger to make a tea to help my friend who was feeling sick...I was rifling through her fridge and everything), but I also turn into an emotional basket-case, which is not fun (especially considering I grew up in a family which has this unspoken tendancy to see great shows of emotion as a lack of self-discipline). *shrug* anyway, the point is, even if I didn't believe getting drunk is a sin (which I do), I just don't understand why people enjoy it so much.

[hat_town21]

"How do you define drunk? I could have six beers and get totally pie eyed, but my 250 pound friend packs away 6 beers and blows nearly 0% on a breathalizer."

hah...that's funny...

Peaches: sorry to hear about your brother :-( hope he's ok.

I guess for some it's white and black...not even a grey issue. For others it's grey...I used to go to this church that spoke against drinking all together. Spoke that it was a sin to have even drop...for many other reasons I left that church and am quite happy at this other one. But going from that to having a beer with the worship leader...just kinda confuses me lol...but like that one person said (sorry too lazy to go back and find who posted it haha) it's a relationship issue more than a rule or right and wrong issue.

[Bread_of_Life]

I realize 99.9% of christians believe it is a sin to get drunk. Probably the 1% aren't saved or just don't care.

I got a little pished the other day, does that mean I'm not saved? I mean, gee whiz.

[nebula]

Well, hat -

If you insist on getting drunk . . .

make sure you drink lots and lots of water at the same time.

too much alcohol will overtax your liver and eventually lead to liver damage. But more water will help dilute the alcohol in your system.

Also, the more hydrated you are, the less hangover symptoms you'll be feeling later. Most hangover ills are actually dehydration ills.

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As per your question - what does it do for your witness?