Whats your favorite translation?

[endure4salvation]

The KJV of the Bible has a horrible mistake/heresy in it.

Acts 5:30

"The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a tree."

This translation has Jesus being killed before he was hung on a tree! Is this really the way Jesus died? BEFORE he was crucified?

And I have read Acts 8:37 and other verses that the KJV only crowd will tell me that the NIV purposly took out of the Bible. This is also absurd, because in every instance (incuding 1 John 5:7), there is a text note at the bottom of the page that inserts "Some late manuscripts have....".

But the KJV has also left out parts of verses as well:

Jude 25

"To the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen" (NIV).

"To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and for ever. Amen" (KJV).

Hmmm....so the KJV actually left out the deity of Jesus in this instance.

Also,

John 14:14

"You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it" (NIV).

"If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it" (KJV).

Another ommission? I could be very unfair and state that the KJV is a Satanic Bible and the TR is a corrupt manuscript because of these, but I won't. I will leave that up to the KJV-only crowd.

Just for good measure, I would like for some KJV-onlyite to defend the following passage, taken directly from the ORIGINAL 1611 King James Version of the Holy Bible:

"Betooke themselues vnto praier, and besought him that the sinne committed, might wholy bee put out of remembrance. Besides, that noble Iudas exhorted the people to keep themselues from sinne. Forsomuch as they saw before their eyes the things that came to passe, for the sinne of those y were slaine. . . . And also in that he perceiued that there was great fauour layed vp for those that died godly. (It was an holy, and good thought) wherupon he made a reconciliation for the dead, that they might be deliuered from sinne" (II Maccabees 12:42,45).

Do any of you believe in Purgatory? A real KJV-only advocate should, but rarely does...

[ted]

Yup, as The Journey correctly surmised, I was only kidding.

Actually, as I stated about 5 months ago, I am more KJV inclined, than KJV only. I love the style, the prose, and the old english words. I'm not sure anyone can say which version is totally correct because men were involved in all the versions. The important thing here is to get the true meaning of God's Word in which ever version you use. That meaning, of course, in a nut shell, is the Holy Salvation in Jesus Christ.

Peace to all.

t.

PS

Endure, Acts 5:30 that you quoted, does mean the same thing as hung on the cross. Just another way of saying the same thing. You just gotta know when to take things in their literal context or figurative.

Have a good day and God Bless you!

[endure4salvation]

Yup, as The Journey correctly surmised, I was only kidding.

Actually, as I stated about 5 months ago, I am more KJV inclined, than KJV only. I love the style, the prose, and the old english words. I'm not sure anyone can say which version is totally correct because men were involved in all the versions. The important thing here is to get the true meaning of God's Word in which ever version you use. That meaning, of course, in a nut shell, is the Holy Salvation in Jesus Christ.

I have no problem with people that want to read the KJV. It is a great translation and countless people have come to a saving relationship while reading from it.

I have about 5 copies of it my own self.

Endure, Acts 5:30 that you quoted, does mean the same thing as hung on the cross. Just another way of saying the same thing. You just gotta know when to take things in their literal context or figurative.

Have a good day and God Bless you!

You will notice that I was not saying that he was literally hung on a tree, but that he was killed BEFORE he was hung (crucified). Here is what I said:

This translation has Jesus being killed before he was hung on a tree! Is this really the way Jesus died? BEFORE he was crucified?

I was merely saying that Jesus didn't die before he was crucified, that is all.

And I want to make sure that you all are aware that I am not attacking anybody here personally. I am only stating that I don't like to debate KJV-onlyism because my salvation and my intelligence are brought into question--something that I take serious. I love Jesus and follow Him with my heart. I have made Him my Lord.

[Anonymous]

The regular King James Version is my favorite. It's the one I grew up with... the one I learn my scriptures from.

Hehe, when I am in other translations, sometimes it's hard for me to find a scripture. I have to get out the old faithful KJV, look it up in there, then go to the translation I am in and locate the verse.

[Judy]

I own several translations, but I find the NIV the easiest to use for Bible Study.

[whatsitmean]

I would have to say my favorite translation, the one I use the most, is the one I carry in my head.

For reading though, I use the KJV because it most closely follows my favorite one. Once you know where the pitfalls are, they are pretty easy to sidestep, which is not always the case with less familiar translations.

[CWJ]

KJV w/NKJV used for easy reading.

I trust the Lord didn't let 300yrs go by w/o revealing ALL of His Word, with the KJV as the main English bible in those years.

That better manuscripts were "found" later, so for 300yrs men were left with "inferior" scripture.

Then when the "better" manuscripts were found, some serious doctinally important verses were left out!

So...by having inconsistant scripture translations, some without verses that for 300 yrs were there....we now have an opening for doubt as to the authority of the written Word.

Can we trust scholars..(men we don't even know?)...or will we have faith in God to provide His Word?

Now with this opening we have "gay" priest.

The unsaved can be confused by this I think.

I have ceased making a big deal out of it with other christians, but as for me and my house....we'll keep to the KJV!

[endure4salvation]

That better manuscripts were "found" later, so for 300yrs men were left with "inferior" scripture.

Then when the "better" manuscripts were found, some serious doctinally important verses were left out!

If you are refering to things like Acts 8:37 and 1 John 5:7, I would like for you to give me evidence that these 'missing verses' (which are ALWAYS FOOTNOTED IN MORE RECENT TRANSLATIONS) were not ACTUALLY ADDED IN by scribes or hopefuls to add clairification to the text.

[CWJ]

endure.....

I could present you with scholarly and factual evidence (written by men) that upholds these verses as the Holy Scripture. I am sure you can present the same to the opposite.

I have studied many hours on both sides of the issue.

But......do you or I have any assurance at all from either side of the issue you present that what we are reading is in fact...... A FACT?

I look at the plain and simple, what is right before me that I can know is fact.

I do know that I have faith in God's divine direction in presenting His Word to generations of lost sinners.

I do know that for 300yrs the KJV was the English version for that purpose.

I do know that this version never introduced doubt in the authority of the written scriptures.

At least not until "scholars" presented us with "new manuscript evidence", that I have no way to prove or disprove.

This "new" stuff has since introduced a contoversy, one that definitely puts doubt into the written authority of God's Word.

I believe Jesus showed the importance of the Written Word when He answered the devil three times.....

It is Written

[endure4salvation]

CWJ, I see your point and agree with you.

I just follow Jesus. And if someone tells me I am unsaved because I don't read their favorite Bible translation....I have nothing for them but to bid them goodby.

Proverbs 6:16, 19

There are six things which the Lord hates...one who spreads strife among brothers.

Am I guilty of this?

Yes.

Do I want to be?

No.

Am I going to try to be more like I am told to be in the Bible?

Yes, I will.

Are you with me?

I hope so!