do you eat pork?

[Rober H]

Good post Ronald.

TheChild, is concerned with Christians keeping Jewish dietary laws but he has no problem posting on the Sabbath.

Go figure!

[Gerioke]

Good post Ronald.

TheChild, is concerned with Christians keeping Jewish dietary laws but he has no problem posting on the Sabbath.

Go figure!

How about an expose on tap water. Truth of the matter is, if you abstained from everything that could kill you, you would probably die from malnutrition. I've heard of studies that say margarine, honey, chicken, turkey, BBQ meats, bottled water, tap water, too much milk, coffee etc. can kill you one way or the other.

Any one want to go asp hunting?

[dakota190]

Acts 11 was actually a dream example that God gave concerning people not animals.

go back and read acts;11 again, verse 7 nkjv, after describing the dream Peter says, "and i heard a voice from heaven saying to me, arise, Peter; kill and eat." unless the voice from heaven, was telling Peter to be a cannibal, which i doubt, then the chapter isn't about people it is about diet. verse 9, ""but the voice again answered me from heaven, "what God has cleansed you must not call common." from kjv, acts; 11; v-7 and i heard a voice saying unto me, "Arise, Peter; slay and eat," verse 9, But the voice answered me again from heaven, what God has cleansed, that call not thou common."

[Ovedya]

A young Vegan once told me, "I save a cow a day by being a vegetarian."

My question to her was, "Saving it for whom?"

Look, I have nothing against someone who wants to live a healthy life. If that means that they choose to be Vegan or kosher, fine. Freak freely I say. The problem that I have is when someone tries to indoctrinate me to their way of thinking by making me feel guilty for eating what I eat. Some vegetarians will try to make you feel guilty by talking about all the harm that the meat packing industry inflicts upon animals, and with all the hormones, etc. that they put into the food. The law-keeping kosher types will try to make you feel guilty by preaching about how Jesus was kosher, and so Christians should be to.

Either way it turns me off.

Sure, I know for a fact that the combinations of certain foods, and the overconsumption of certain foods is bad for my health. But I try to eat a balanced diet of fruits, veggies, whole grains, dairy, and that last food group, hamburgers (just kidding). And I am well aware that the dietary laws of the Old Testament had a lot of practical value in terms of keeping oneself away from sickness, disease, etc. However, I also know that the dietary laws had a deeper spiritual significance that I think many people ignore or overlook. Being kosher meant more than simply being healthy and living a longer life by avoiding things that caused disease and sickness. It was about God's selection and consecration of a people. It was a way of setting God's people apart from the rest of the world and, through a process of consecration, marking those people out as being for Him alone.

Today we do not live under the legal system of laws and dietary laws. We are under the age of grace. We are in the age by which all things are subject to Christ alone, and are based solely upon His death and resurrection. God has sealed us with the mark of the Holy Spirit and He is in the process of consecrating us inwardly first, that we could become His bride. In the age of the Law God worked from the outside in. In the age of grace God is working from the inside out.

If a Christian wants to be kosher, that's wonderful. But if he for one moment believes that by being kosher God esteems his manner of living above one who is not, then he is deceived. The writings of Paul are abundantly clear that it is not by the carrying out of the works of the law that man is justified. He is justified only by the death of Christ. Being kosher or not being kosher - being vegetarian or not being a vegetarian - should never be a means by which one believer exalts himself above another, or considers himself greater than another.

Finally, I'd like to make one point with regard to healthy living. Healthy living is great. I sincerely wish that I had the resolve to live a more healthy life. But in terms of longevity I'd like to point out that, for the most part, the jury is still out. Many of us can tell stories of a grandparent or great-grandparent who lived long lives in spite of their otherwise unhealthy lifestyles. Genetics have a lot to do with longevity. Also, believe it or not, there is something in the Bible about being respectful to parents. Paul said that this is the first commandment with a promise - that your days would be long on the earth. When I see, read, or hear about a person who has lived a long life my first question is not usually, "I wonder what his diet was," but "I wonder if that person was a lover of Christ who honored his parents?"

[Rober H]

Ovedya,

I usually don't read every word or sentence in posts that long but I read every word and didn't disagree with a single sentence.

"That's what I'm talkin about!"

[Ovedya]

Ovedya,

I usually don't read every word or sentence in posts that long but I read every word and didn't disagree with a single sentence.

"That's what I'm talkin about!"

[angels4u]

QUOTE(angels4u @ Jun 9 2006, 07:57 PM)

The child,

I don't know where you stand with the Lord are you His child and looking to do His will?

Did you make Jesus your personal Savior? What does He mean to you?

Jesus called the crowd to him and said,

[Ovedya]

just like the guy who went into the lions cage recently, god will let you.

Ah....Don't know if you heard, but that guy was killed by the lion. That man wasn't a Christian by the way. He was a guy that challenged God by saying, "If God exists then He will keep me alive."

By the way, I've noticed that you don't puntuate your sentences. Normally it's not an issue. However, since you're talking about honoring God, wouldn't you want to at least capitalize "God" and the words which refer to Him? Not capitalizing "God" gives the impression that you could be talking about any god. The capitalization indicates which God you are talking about.

[thechild]

just like the guy who went into the lions cage recently, god will let you.

Ah....Don't know if you heard, but that guy was killed by the lion. That man wasn't a Christian by the way. He was a guy that challenged God by saying, "If God exists then He will keep me alive."

By the way, I've noticed that you don't puntuate your sentences. Normally it's not an issue. However, since you're talking about honoring God, wouldn't you want to at least capitalize "God" and the words which refer to Him? Not capitalizing "God" gives the impression that you could be talking about any god. The capitalization indicates which God you are talking about.

long ago i swithed to all caps in my handwriting. then the internet came along and i went to typing in all caps and people accused me of yelling. plus, in the early days, when i went to all lower case, i did so because the word processing was very basic with no underlining or italics, so i reserved caps for emphasis only.

also, all of that grammar stuff and reverence thing seems too superficial to me to have any real meaning. the meaning is in the thoughts and ideas conveyed. i dont think anyone is confused by HOW i have communicated, but only in WHAT i have communicated. and there is really no confusion, just diagreement and denial.

Edited June 12, 2006 by thechild

[Ovedya]

just like the guy who went into the lions cage recently, god will let you.

Ah....Don't know if you heard, but that guy was killed by the lion. That man wasn't a Christian by the way. He was a guy that challenged God by saying, "If God exists then He will keep me alive."

By the way, I've noticed that you don't puntuate your sentences. Normally it's not an issue. However, since you're talking about honoring God, wouldn't you want to at least capitalize "God" and the words which refer to Him? Not capitalizing "God" gives the impression that you could be talking about any god. The capitalization indicates which God you are talking about.

long ago i swithed to all caps in my handwriting. then the internet came along and i went to typing in all caps and people accused me of yelling. plus, in the early days, when i went to all lower case, i did so because the word processing was very basic with no underlining or italics, so i reserved caps for emphasis only.

also, all of that grammar stuff and reverence thing seems too superficial to me to have any real meaning. the meaning is in the thoughts and ideas conveyed. i dont think anyone is confused by HOW i have communicated, but only in WHAT i have communicated. and there is really no confusion, just diagreement and denial.

That's funny. The way you think about grammar is the same way that some think about the legality of the kosher diet.