Hebrews 6:4-6

[jgredline]

Hi folks...

Does this section of scripture imply that a Christian can loose his salvation?

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

Edited July 28, 2007 by jgredline

[kari21]

Hebrews 6:4-6 states,

[Vickilynn]

Hi folks...

Does this section of scripture imply that a Christian can loose his salvation?

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

Shalom,

I believe this Scriptures shows that a Christian can WALK AWAY or FALL AWAY from their salvation, by their own CHOICE.

[larryt]

Hi folks...

Does this section of scripture imply that a Christian can loose his salvation?

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

This verse is not talking about walking away or lose of salvation.

For it is impossible ... if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

I removed a parenthetical thought that the writer inserted in order to look at the verse more closely.

It is talking about renewing to repentance and how absurd it is to think that Jesus would have to return again and again. He did everything perfectly and completely the first time.

The verse is not saying that we can lose our salvation, but that our salvation is complete in Christ. This is the whole massage of the book of Hebrews. Christ better than the angels, the prophets, everything.

Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

LT

[EricH]

Hi folks...

Does this section of scripture imply that a Christian can loose his salvation?

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

This verse is not talking about walking away or lose of salvation.

For it is impossible ... if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

I removed a parenthetical thought that the writer inserted in order to look at the verse more closely.

It is talking about renewing to repentance and how absurd it is to think that Jesus would have to return again and again. He did everything perfectly and completely the first time.

The verse is not saying that we can lose our salvation, but that our salvation is complete in Christ. This is the whole massage of the book of Hebrews. Christ better than the angels, the prophets, everything.

Heb 9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

LT

If one believes that this passage teaches that a believer can loose their salvation, it also teaches that they cannot be saved again.

[tsth]

2 Tim 2:10 Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they too may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory. 11 Here is a trustworthy saying: If we died with him, we will also live with him; 12 if we endure, we will also reign with him. If we disown him, he will also disown us; 13 if we are faithless, he will remain faithful, for he cannot disown himself.

14 Keep reminding them of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. 16 Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17 Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18 who have wandered away from the truth.

In His Love,

Suzanne

[st. Worm]

You have to do some real scripture twisting to say this is not a serious warning to all believers. The passage does not specifically say anyone has fallen away or lost their salvation although it clearly implies its possible for that to happen. It gives a clear warning and to treat it otherwise seems rather foolhardy. It is just as much God's word as any promise we have concerning the certainty of salvation.

sw

[EricH]

You have to do some real scripture twisting to say this is not a serious warning to all believers. The passage does not specifically say anyone has fallen away or lost their salvation although it clearly implies its possible for that to happen. It gives a clear warning and to treat it otherwise seems rather foolhardy. It is just as much God's word as any promise we have concerning the certainty of salvation.

sw

True,

But one must also wrestle with all of the implications of where they land regarding this passage

[Guest speaker]

You have to do some real scripture twisting to say this is not a serious warning to all believers. The passage does not specifically say anyone has fallen away or lost their salvation although it clearly implies its possible for that to happen. It gives a clear warning and to treat it otherwise seems rather foolhardy. It is just as much God's word as any promise we have concerning the certainty of salvation.

sw

I agree. The third chapter of Hebrews has more to say on this topic:

3:1 Therefore, holy brothers, who share in the heavenly calling, (these are Christians being spoken to) fix your thoughts on Jesus, the apostle and high priest who we confess. 2 He was faithful to the One who appointed him, just as Moses was faithful in all God's house...6 But Christ is faithful as a son over God's house. And we are his house, IF we hold on to our courage and the hope of which we boast...12 See to it, brothers, that none of you has a sinful, unbelieving heart that TURNS AWAY from the living God. 13 But encourage one another daily, as long as it is call Today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin's deceitfulness. 14 We have come to share in Christ IF we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first.

[Mutzrein]

Hi folks...

Does this section of scripture imply that a Christian can loose his salvation?

4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.

No it doesn't imply it. It states it clearly.