ALLAH OR JESUS ?

[martin frobisher]

It is a great tragedy that Islam has become generally accepted as one of the world's major religions.

I remember reading about the case of "Catch the Fire Ministries" in Australia where Christians were prosecuted for making valid criticisms of Islam. Beware, these types of persecution will increase.

Edited June 27, 2009 by martin frobisher

[Fez]

Thunder, your twisting of the Gospel, from one who states that he is saved, borders very close to being unpardonable.

Repent and ask Him, on your knees ,for forgivness.

[OneLight]

Thunder, your twisting of the Gospel, from one who states that he is saved, borders very close to being unpardonable.

Repent and ask Him, on your knees ,for forgivness.

Did I miss something here??? I would love to see where Thrunder said he has salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord!

[lekh l'kha]

Thunder, your twisting of the Gospel, from one who states that he is saved, borders very close to being unpardonable.

Repent and ask Him, on your knees ,for forgivness.

Did I miss something here??? I would love to see where Thrunder said he has salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord!

He claimed to believe the words of Jesus and that it's only the words of Jesus that save us from our sin, not the sacrifice of the body and blood of Jesus which He made for us on the cross.

But he made it clear that he believes only some of the words of Jesus - and those few words of Jesus that he does believe, he has twisted to mean what they don't mean - that God is the angel Gabriel and Mohammad is the counselor who Jesus said would guide us into all truth.

Lekh

[Massorite]

It is a great tragedy that Islam has become generally accepted as one of the world's major religions.

I remember reading about the case of "Catch the Fire Ministries" in Australia where Christians were prosecuted for making valid criticisms of Islam. Beware, these types of persecution will increase.

No question about. You are right.

[Massorite]

Thunder, your twisting of the Gospel, from one who states that he is saved, borders very close to being unpardonable.

Repent and ask Him, on your knees ,for forgivness.

Did I miss something here??? I would love to see where Thrunder said he has salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord!

I don't think he has said one way or the other.

[Massorite]

Thunder, your twisting of the Gospel, from one who states that he is saved, borders very close to being unpardonable.

Repent and ask Him, on your knees ,for forgivness.

Did I miss something here??? I would love to see where Thrunder said he has salvation through Jesus Christ our Lord!

He claimed to believe the words of Jesus and that it's only the words of Jesus that save us from our sin, not the sacrifice of the body and blood of Jesus which He made for us on the cross.

But he made it clear that he believes only some of the words of Jesus - and those few words of Jesus that he does believe, he has twisted to mean what they don't mean - that God is the angel Gabriel and Mohammad is the counselor who Jesus said would guide us into all truth.

Lekh

Sounds like he is a Muslim because that is what they believe.

[Matthitjah]

Grace to you,

Thunder can only post in the Outer Court now.

Peace,

Dave

[Rick-Parker]

Thunder said to damo1: (my reply is in red)

i see you posted some of isaiah 53 you should include the whole on this subject it acualy starts in chapter 52:13 and is not about the christ. Thunder, you couldn't be more wrong. You don't know what you are talking about.

ISAIAH 52: 13-15

The Suffering and Glory of the Servant

{ note this is about "a servant" not the son of god or of a god in the flesh} so if this is of jesus he is no " son of god " nor " god in the flesh".}

13 See, my servant ["My Servant" is the Lord Jesus Christ] will act wisely [prudently]; [this means to be circumspect and intelligent]

he [He] will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted [this refers to Christ being exalted higher than any other and all else].

14 Just as there were many who were appalled at him

his appearance was so disfigured beyond that of any man and his form marred beyond human likeness

Edited June 27, 2009 by Parker1

[damo1]

Greeetings the thunder

i am seeing that you went from seeker to being banned and had read you are only alowed to post in outer court

after praying and going over what you had been leaving in my post and in your threads in this forum i feel that this is the way the lord wants me to respond to you

as i said i wil push you and i wil question you and you need to make it very clear so when members do respond they know were you are at right know you are not a christian you know the bible very well and yet you are clinging to the koran and have not decided if its going to be christianity or islam

i am going to say this to you i hate how the gay community lesbian community and the homosexuals including the drag queens how i am hearing and have looked at the bible that has just recently been printed they have twisted a lot of things and its made me mad and it made me vomit

god warns us not to add to his word

i am praying over my female muslim friend and i am asking god to give me the right words to say to her she knows i am a born again christian and she knows were i stand as a man and a father

have you the thunders converted to islam ?

i also asked you to tel me what has turned you off from accepting christ and following him

i know what we read can tick a person off i have also noticed some christians cant handle what jesus has to say to us i also know that ther are christians who do read the bible but they only accept the verses that dont tick them off

by the way thanks for letting me know how long you served in the army

and yes your friend you mentioned is spot on to how he was feeling with what was going on at home in yugoslavia

i under stand how he felt when he had come to america thats how my parents felt too when we were accepted to finaly settle in australia

but sadly some serbs have not been able to let go and they taunt us in a country that is not theirs

my people are often discriminated against

i noticed that muslims do the same i am good at studying people all ethnic groups do this not just the muslims

and its always the poor or unducated that are discriminated not the educated and the rich

i have noticed one thing a lot of splinter groups are know settled in our countrys due to not being able to handle the truth

some pastors alow gays to preach the word while living in sin

the new pope has set up a catholic forum for muslims and catholics to dialog and to learn from one another the new pope said our religons are the same

a lot of thes splinter groups have also taken on the new age movements teaching

this is what i mean the thunder when i say we only accept what we want to

i have to admit i was doing this when i was young taking scripture out of contex taking other mens revelations with out questioning the men i looked up to if i came across a certain verse that was ticking me of i would avoid the verse that was ticking me off and only stick to the nice verses that did not tick me off

in the city i live in we have new churches proping up and we know the gays have know their very own bible and we are ready

i do witness to gays and have gone into a gay night club i am with a good out reach team the men i have connected with are strong in their walk

right now the thunder were are you at i want you to tell me the thunder are you going to convert to islam ?

dont beat around the bush be open as i said i will not attack you

please consider also what has been said to you by the other members and parker 1

we do care for you as a person and i dont want to see you destroy your life

i know why you are sticking to islam and i know why you have respect for the muslims the thunder

my concern the thunder is for you and for your family

you have not come in contac with mature christians i can sence this the thunder

i wil come back to this thread of mine later on today the thunder i am involved in a topic in a forum that is set up for croatians so i am going to be in that forum today debating with some serbs

its not a christian forum and we do speak in our own language only a few croatians wil speak to some one who is from america and australia and london in english they wil read what you leave but wil not respond straight away you need to gain ther trust and they wil want to see wher you as a humen being are comming from the serbs we are dealing with are attacking us openly in our own forum and they dont hold back neither do we

get to know one light massorit and dave and the other members hear they wil dialog with you and have done a good job at answering your questions

catch you later

damo1