The Heretical Commitments To Christ

[damo1]

damo1

to poor in spirit

i am weighting for your responce and wil keep aplying to this topic until you answer me what about the christians all over the world that are suffering for this gospel what should these people do should they reacant of what they had read in gods word because it does not line up with the new kings james version while i am typing this i am chating with my friend on line who lives in china she can only talk to me when her parents go out as every day my friend lives in fear poor in spirit

can you live like this wear you know in the back of your mind one day you wil be thrown in jail wil you be willing poor in spirit to suffer for what you hold so close to your heart poor in spirit ?

i know of two very young pastors who have just taken on a church in mindanoa in the philippines and before my wife to be visets her two young friends she has to see if its safe to travel as the husband is only 28 yrs old and the wife is only 25 yrs old

wear our friends are the muslims have been figthing with the fiapino army as the muslims want an islamic state and this is not even their home land they have shown no respect to the other christians poor in spirit and i am constantly praying for our young friends who i wil be catching up with in jan and spending some time with them in prayer and i am going to encourage both of them

my friend in china poor in spirit should not have to live in fear nowing one day her own mother and her own father can have her thrown in jail my female friend is only 29yrs old poor in spirit and also i am just being told that she can lose her provissional licence at any given moment because the goverment is arresting the in house pastors many have gone underground all because of an atheist goverment wanting to control

these men and women poor in spirit wil not join a goverment run church wear the goverment tells the pastor or the parish preist how to preach gods word to their people

can you handle living in such harsh conditons poor in spirit and stand firm in the faith you hold so close to your heart

can you handle serving the lord in jail while being beaten and seeing those you have one from the enemys camp starv seeing them be treated in such a harsh way and al you can do is do as jesus say turn the other cheek ?

what or who is guiding you poor in spirit ?

brother learn to read the kings james bible you have propley as you do not understand what the disciples stood for and sufferd for or what the apostles stood for and sufferd for

these men gave up their lives so i can be free know in 2007 if it was not for these men and what jesus did on the cross i would not be hear today many wil not be hearing of what was done tor them many wil just go on living a normal life

yet thanks to those that had re written the gospel i am able to learn about what jesus did for me i can see what the disciples and apostles went threw

was jesus death in vain then poor in spirit if we are to go by the gospel of poor in spirit as it sounds like you are in the right the kings james version is in the right and every other translation printed is wrong and i need to repen and come back to jesus and just feed on gods word and not do a thing knowing that if i dont try my son my loved ones and those around me wil be thrown in the lake of fire

i would rather let the spirit guide me to as many lost souls at least am an open vessel wear gods spirit can speak threw me to reach out to those that need christ the most

as it sounds to me like you just want to feed on what ever the kings james bible say and let every one else around you go to hell

see i am on to you poor in spirit it did not take me long to work out what you are saying in your new topic

by bro

peace from damo

[damo1]

damo1

to poor in spirit

stop twisting peoples words as this is also something i picked up in you you like to twist what people share openly to you and then have them come to your way of thinking and understanding

i am going to ask you how strong is your faith can you stand on your faith if you wear to come under attac or persecution ?

or are you one of these guys that wil run when your faith is tested ? how strong is your faith in jesus poor in spirit as i feel led to challange your knowledge but i wil not alow my self to do this

if you feel poor in spirit that your faith and understanding in jesus is so strong i ask you to go help those in other parts of the world and go into the mission fields in india and preach gods word as i have a funny feeling poor in spirit wnen the day comes and some one confronts you and put the challange up

you wil be one of these guys that wil run and give jesus up so to save your own life

as i feel your understanding and your faith is not that strong you can not even tell me poor in spirit

how you lead some one threw the sinners prayer or tel me how you share your understanding of who christ is to you ?

when you can talk to us with out attacing or preaching from the gospel of poor in spirit i wil treat you with the respect you deserve as brother i want to get to know you but while you are the way you are i am just going to keep placing

things on this post to make you think tel me poor in spirit what would you do if you wear my female friend in china

can you live the life she is living know wil you stil be able to hold firm of your faith and say my jesus meets al my needs even while i am in jail i wil tell all that i am a christian no matter what is said or what harsh punishment is thrown at me

when i pray for my female friend in china poor in spirit i pray for her prottection as i know what jail is like and let me tel you its a harsh place both male jails and female jails

have you ever read the book the heavenly man i would encourage you to by this book and read it your self

please poor in spirit do not go twisting what people say to you as i feel when your time comes you wil not stand firm on your faith and understanding but i feel you wil run

by bro

peace from damo

[eric]

Well.....er.....I am glad I didn't get involved in this drama, because it is going nowhere..

I don't know where poor is going with this, but I do know that until you reach the point that you have a personal relationship with with Jesus Christ and committed yourself to following Him and putting 100% of your life in his hands, you will have no rest.

in one post,poor, you asked,

How would you say that you are standing fast in the liberty in which Christ has set us free and that you are not in any way shape or form in bondage?

Are you suggesting that when we commit our lives to the Lord, we are under some sort of bondage?

[poorinspirit]

damo1,

i am going to ask you a question how many people have you led to christ in this year or the past years ? and when you lead some one to christ how do you walk them threw the sinners prayer ?

Don't know. As the Lord use me to declare the faith so that those wayward believers will know why they are left behind, maybe some seeking the Lord will turn to Him after seeing Whom the Gospel is really all about, but that is His glory.. not mine. And no... I do not use the sinners' prayer.

Here's a question for you. In Acts... when they preach the Gospel to the Gentiles, what happened? After hearing the Gospel, they believed and then they were baptized by the Holy Ghost. So where is the sinner's prayer in that? And when you use that standard to judge me by.. and don't say you are not... are you not going to be brimming with pride? You do remember that verse about those being left behind in that they boasted of doing all these wonderful works in His name? So beware.

how do you share your faith and understanding of who christ is to you to the lost around you ?

By the grace of God, by showing what is of faith in Christ Jesus and what is not of faith so that the simplicity of the Gospel is restored in the eyes of those seeking.

what does the great commision say in the very end of matthew and right threw out the other gospels lile luke mark john what does the apostle paul teach us in his epistles ?

That Jesus is with you always.

what was paul and what was silas and the other disciples doing when they would enter a new comunity or village ?

Preaching the Gospel of Jesus Christ.... not preaching another spirit other than what the believers has already received.

what heppend when paul was constantly thrown into prision poor in spirit ?

He said.. ow. You really have to be more specific than that.

what did jesus say to the women at the well ?

That a time will come that she will not have to go to the mountains nor to Jerusalem to worship God for the Father seek true worshippiers as they will worship God IN Spirit and IN truth so it doesn't matter where you go.. the Lord is with you always... thus indicative that the false worshippers are doing so OUT of Spirit and thus OUT of truth.

what did jesus do for mary magladine when she was about to be stoned ?

did jesus not say thoes who have no sin in their lives let them throw the first stone ? and what did jesus do he kneeld on the ground and not one person dared to judge mary magladine

That is true, but Jesus said... Neither do I condemn you... go and sin no more. Don't forget that last part.

what does this mean to you and your way of thinking poor in spirit

mattew 10 new international version

jesus sends out the twelve

he called his disciples to him gave them authority to drive out evil spirits and to heal every disease and sickness

Doing good works does not justify a person standing with the Lord for even those that cast out devils can go astray. Read Matthew 7:13-24.

matthew 5

the beattiudes

3 blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the kingdom of heaven

4 blessed are those who mourn for they wil be comforted

5 blessed are the meek for they wil inherit the earth

6 blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness for they will be filled

7 blessed are tbe merciful for they wil be shown mercy

8 blessed are tbe pure in heart for they will see god

9 blessed are the peace makers for they wil be called the sons of god

10 blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness for theirs is the kingdom of heaven

11 blessed are you when people insult you persecute you say all kinds of evil against you because of me

12 regoice and be glad for great is your reward in heaven for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you

so from what you are saying poor in spirit we should step back and let god and jesus only convict me we need not to bother and try to reach out to our love ones

No. Preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ and share your faith so that sinners will not turn away when they see your hope in Christ Jesus to deliver them from their sins. If you speak of your commitment, you run the risk of them walking away from Jesus because they are slaves to sin and they cannot see it in themselves to make a commitment to Christ. The Lord has shown me one woman that walked away from Jesus because she thought she had to clean up her life first before coming to Jesus.

To be continued in next post due to number of quotes exceeded. God be willing...

[nebula]

poorinspirit -

You are very clearly ignoring my question about Jesus being your Lord.

Why?

[poorinspirit]

Continued from last post to damo1,

when my self and many know wear people wil go would you rather be a pig and feed on gods word your self and see those around you go to hell because they do not listen to you

It is amazing how you still cannot see the Good News in Jesus by the faith I am sharing in Him.

what about the missonerys and the many pastors know that are being persecuted not just in india but all over the world like in indonisia are you teling me they are not walking according to gods wil and in the situations they are in know are they walking in sin and do these missonerys and pastors that are falsly acused for standing up for this gospel and for their faith need to repent and stop what they are doing

So what you are saying is how bad will it get before the rapture? Well, if Matthew 7:13-24 & Luke 13:24-30 is any indication, then see the pre-condition in Jeremiah as the judgments in Jeremiah matches Revelation in regards to Babylon.

Jeremiah 50: 6My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace. 7All that found them have devoured them: and their adversaries said, We offend not, because they have sinned against the LORD, the habitation of justice, even the LORD, the hope of their fathers.

this is what it seem to me that you are trying to say in your new post are you jelous poor in spirit that god has not called you to preach like many of my brothers and sisters in the lord who are suffering know for the gospel ?

Nope.

i have a friend in china who has to get a provisonal licence just to go to church and when my friend in china has to apply for a new provisonal licence she has to tell her goverment why she wants to go to church and these guys shame her to the point wear they tell her to her face stop beliving in what you are beliving in as they say god is not real

should my friend in china be a bitter person or should she put all her trust in jesus when she comes under attac my friend can not even preach to her parents as if she preaches the gospel and says openly to her mother and her father that she is a christian her parents have the right to have her thrown in jail all they have to say is she is forcing her religon down their throats

Maybe she is if she is casting the guantlet to make a commitment to Christ. I don't know. I am not there.

yet my friend in china poor in spirit lives in fear know one day she wil be thrown in jail with many otf her other brothers and sisters that are suffering know

Well, I still have trouble in rejoicing like Paul and Silas when I am persecuted so.. not sure how I can help her in that.

you are a very confueed person poor in spirit please in your great wisdom poor in spirit explaine in your own words to mean

Now, now... all wisdom comes from the Lord. I have kept telling you to take what I have shared with you to Jesus, but you keep going to the Holy Spirit in prayer.

Again... to be continued in next post due to number of quotes exceeded... God be willing

[poorinspirit]

Continued from second post reply to damo1's first post...

what does matthew 5 mean to you ? and in your own words tel me poor in spirit what does the great comission say for us who belive in him to do does it not say in the great commision to go and make disciples out of all men

Tell me something. How much power does leading a man to make a commitment to Christ helps him in living the christian life? None. A person can make a decision to believe, but still... we are surrendering and saying... Lord.. save me. Where is there any religious stuck ups in that?

lets hear your great knowledge poor in spirit should my brothers and sisters rigth now in india and in indonesia

Wow. Tell me something, damo1. Do you look to others to counsel you in the Lord or do you ever take it to Jesus as I suggest you do? This is what I would share.

All you believers out there! Jesus is also Your Good Shepherd as well as Your Saviour! Trust Him as a child can in Jesus to help you live the christian life by faith. He will do it. Believe Him for He is with you always!

stop doing what they are doing because you are jelous that god has not ordained you or you have been given the chance to preach

So like when Paul and them were beatened and warned not to preach the Gospel... I should rejoice as well? What is the good fight? Keeping the faith.

as this is what it sounds like to me poor in spirit how many souls have you one into the kingdom are you telling me you are the perfect one brother and we need to have our eyes opend to the gospel of poor in spirit as this is what it sounds like to me you preaching again and preaching in ridles wear you do not make your self clear but one has to read your topic 4 times just to get the jist of it

Perfect? No. Delivered? Yes. Wishing to share those deliverances so that others the Lord knows are seeking Him will turn to Him in prayer for discernment with what I have shared regarding our faith in Him? Yes... and the Lord has to help me even with that, but it is on Him to deliver others.

i wil come back later to see what you have to say on what i left for you

You probably will not like it and order me to stop posting to you.... again.

by by poor in spirit

peace from damo

God be willing, we shall meet again, but if not, I shall be still leaving you to the Lord. May God help me.

[Guest]

NO BOAST

"For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

[9] Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:7-8

Except In The Love Of God

"And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us."

And In The God Of Love

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

The Heretical Commitments To Christ

Is It Real Or Is It Memorex?

My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

John 10:27

To Weed Or To Obey?

But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Matthew 13:29-30

THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE

Mighty

Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Zechariah 4:6

Quiet

Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.

Psalms 46:10

In The Vineyards Of The LORD

Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.

John 15:3-4

My Love

The LORD hath appeared of old unto me, saying, Yea, I have loved thee with an everlasting love: therefore with lovingkindness have I drawn thee.

Jeremiah 31:3

My Trust

Trust in the LORD, and do good; so shalt thou dwell in the land, and verily thou shalt be fed. Delight thyself also in the LORD; and he shall give thee the desires of thine heart.

Psalms 37:3-4

My Commitment

[5] Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass. And he shall bring forth thy righteousness as the light, and thy judgment as the noonday.

Psalms 37:5-6

My Rest

[7] Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for him: fret not thyself because of him who prospereth in his way, because of the man who bringeth wicked devices to pass. Cease from anger, and forsake wrath: fret not thyself in any wise to do evil.

Psalms 37:7-8

How Great Thou Art

Carl Gustaf Boberg (1859-1940)

O Lord my God, When I in awesome wonder,

Consider all the worlds Thy Hands have made;

I see the stars, I hear the rolling thunder,

Thy power throughout the universe displayed.

Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,

How great Thou art, How great Thou art.

Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,

How great Thou art, How great Thou art!

When through the woods, and forest glades I wander,

And hear the birds sing sweetly in the trees.

When I look down, from lofty mountain grandeur

And see the brook, and feel the gentle breeze.

Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,

How great Thou art, How great Thou art.

Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,

How great Thou art, How great Thou art!

And when I think, that God, His Son not sparing;

Sent Him to die, I scarce can take it in;

That on the Cross, my burden gladly bearing,

He bled and died to take away my sin.

Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,

How great Thou art, How great Thou art.

Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,

How great Thou art, How great Thou art!

When Christ shall come, with shout of acclamation,

And take me home, what joy shall fill my heart.

Then I shall bow, in humble adoration,

And then proclaim: "My God, how great Thou art!"

Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,

How great Thou art, How great Thou art.

Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,

How great Thou art, How great Thou art!

http://www.allaboutgod.com/how-great-thou-art.htm

What Fun!

Thank You PoorInSpirit.

Look Up

And Lift Up Your Heads

For Your Redemption Draweth Nigh. Luke 21:28

Be Blessed Beloved Of The KING

The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:

The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee:

The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.

And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them. Numbers 6:24-27

Love, Your Brother Joe

[Vickilynn]

Hi Vickilynn,

You do notice that you are not defending the faith, but defending a practise of man, right?

Shalom Poor,

Absolutely not. False doctrine. Commiting ourselves and our ways to G-d is what He wants from us. We are to trust Him to help us to do that. You are speaking double-talk Poor. The Bible plainly says the opposite of what you're preaching. You need to discern the Word and hear from the Holy SPirit.

In consideration of your KJV-only stance, these verses are from the KJV.

Psalm 37

5 Commit thy way unto the LORD; trust also in him; and he shall bring it to pass.

Proverbs 16:

3 Commit your work to the LORD,

and your plans will be established.

We are to follow Jesus by faith. Following Him by that commitment made by man.. is not of faith.

Double-talk. Read the Scriptures. They say to commit our ways to Him and trust Him in faith. I'll take the Bible over your opinion any day.

We are to call false preachers out and expose their false doctrine.

[OneLight]

You failed, or ignored, to answer my question. "What would you call the Apostles commitment to Jesus?"

To answer you question , poorinspirit, you must first understand what commitment is. When one commits themselves to the Lord, one give themselves freely and completely to Jesus, better known as dying to oneself so that the Spirit can live in and through you. You are then committed. You gave of yourself 100%. You must commit your heart to repentance prior to salvation. You have then just made a commitment to God.

To go one step forward, here is what the dictionary states for both commit and committed:

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