Brainwashing your children

[refugepsa91]

Tolerance of homosexuals is a necassary compononent of society. The difference between tolerating and not tolerating is the difference between you and Fred Phelps, the Pastor who holds protests outside of gay or military funerals. Tolerance is the difference between peaceful co-existence and criminal behavior.

Nope wrong. I don't agree with Fred Phelps and his actions and I'm sure most chrisitans don't agree with his style either.

Its ridiculous to state that if we don't tolerate them then it leads to criminal behavior. I don't agree with the gay lifestyle. I don't hate the ones living it. I would never in a million years encourage my children to hurt those doing it. This is just a sad old tactic that is used to make people shut up. If we don't accept it wholeheartedly then we are hate mongers...blah blah blah...

Comparing me or any other christian on this board to Phelps is like me comparing you too the gay activists whom swamped a church in Cali. and did lewd things in front of the congregation because prop 8 didn't pass.

It doesn't work does it?

[LIVN4JC]

I too feel as if Sodom and Gamorah have risen again. We can only educate our children of the truth when at home. I am going to start questioning my grandaughter on what she learns at school. There is just too much going on that goes against our beliefs. It is going to be a long battle. And the sad thing is many will be lost to it. Private Christian schools tuition is so high now my daughter can no longer send her children there. I pray for all the children and can only say Come quick Jesus.

Blessings

In His Loving Hands,

LIVN4JC

[OneLight]

Luke 17:20-37

The Coming of the Kingdom

Now when He was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, He answered them and said,

[Adarian]

Daniel 11:

37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

I expect from this scripture that the Antichrist will be homosexual, so the world must be indoctrinated with the unholy scriptures of "tolerance" by the "angels of light" in the "ministry of truth", otherwise he would be rejected outright.

[Burning_Ember]

Tolerance of homosexuals is a necassary compononent of society. The difference between tolerating and not tolerating is the difference between you and Fred Phelps, the Pastor who holds protests outside of gay or military funerals. Tolerance is the difference between peaceful co-existence and criminal behavior.

Nope wrong. I don't agree with Fred Phelps and his actions and I'm sure most chrisitans don't agree with his style either.

Its ridiculous to state that if we don't tolerate them then it leads to criminal behavior. I don't agree with the gay lifestyle. I don't hate the ones living it. I would never in a million years encourage my children to hurt those doing it. This is just a sad old tactic that is used to make people shut up. If we don't accept it wholeheartedly then we are hate mongers...blah blah blah...

Comparing me or any other christian on this board to Phelps is like me comparing you too the gay activists whom swamped a church in Cali. and did lewd things in front of the congregation because prop 8 didn't pass.

It doesn't work does it?

I an debating with you over the Internet, not walking into your house and performing lewd acts. While railing against tolerance is a great buzzword, I doubt you really understand what it means. Tolerating gays really simply means to let them exist. While it's nice to say tolerance is bad, you tolerate people you don't like, or even gays, whatever you say here about not tolerating I am pretty sure is innaccurate when thinking about what that actually means.

[refugepsa91]

Burning_Ember said:

The difference between tolerating and not tolerating is the difference between you and Fred Phelps,

You made that comparison, which I took to mean if we (christians) didn't "tolerate" the gay lifestyle we could be compared to Phelps. So I made the comparison below. Far fetched isn't it?

Comparing me or any other christian on this board to Phelps is like me comparing you too the gay activists whom swamped a church in Cali. and did lewd things in front of the congregation because prop 8 didn't pass.

I stand by my comparison, do you?

Tolerating gays really simply means to let them exist.

Its not that easy and you realize this. I refuse to let the gay lifestyle be pushed on my kids. By pushed I mean telling them its healthy and normal, perfectly natural...blah..blah. Its not.

whatever you say here about not tolerating I am pretty sure is innaccurate when thinking about what that actually means.

Let me explain to you what I mean when I say I don't tolerate...

I have family members that are gay. I love them dearly, I would never hurt or turn away from them. I tell the truth in love, as any faithful christian would. But, I won't TOLERATE their partners in my home. I won't TOLERATE them explaining to my children "why" they are gay. I won't TOLERATE them showing public affection in front of my kids. I won't TOLERATE listening to their opinions about gay rights.

Tolerate: to allow or concede; to bear

I will not concede my core beliefs. Beliefs straight from the bible. I won't lie and say its ok, because its not ok. I won't teach my children to tolerate/concede to an unbiblical lifestyle. But I will teach my children to love. You can love and disagree with a person at the same time.

[arrowfromgod]

With four children currently in public education I can tell you that it is a NEVER-ENDING test on the will power of parents to de-program much of what their kids are being taught socially in school. It doesn't stop at homosexuality either.

i know yer right ,,, i got 4 too

[Gauntlet]

Tolerance of homosexuals is a necassary compononent of society. The difference between tolerating and not tolerating is the difference between you and Fred Phelps, the Pastor who holds protests outside of gay or military funerals. Tolerance is the difference between peaceful co-existence and criminal behavior.

Strongly agree!

[amor]

Last week I posted a thread about a Massachusetts couple who were ultimately forced to pull their children out of public school. For those who haven't seen it here's the link to the video. The Massachusetts school system was unwilling to inform them about questionable subject matter nor would they allow parents the right to opt-out. Such school systems and governments are taking it upon themselves to dictate what is socially acceptable by adopting a take it or leave it policy despite being state funded by our tax dollars. Of the people, for the people and by the people, right?

While researching this topic for another thread I stumbled across this web site which actually shows how schools and their staff normalizing the homosexual lifestyle by actively desensitizing the children.

I will simply say that after only a couple of seconds I could watch no more.

They resist teaching religion in school as it is of a social nature and not the school systems place to teach on social or moral issues. Why then do they assume it's okay to teach on this one social issue? Since when is it the place of government to teach morality? History has already taught us that legality and morality are not synonymous. You can legalize prostitution but that will not make it right or socially acceptable.

The homosexual community says all they want is equal rights and protection under the law. Why then do they demand that religious establishments "marry" them? Why do they insist their unions be defined marriages? Where does freedom of religion end and a right to happiness begin? If all they want is equal rights then why are they demanding they be accepted by lobbying and pushing an agenda to program our children against our will? Since when is it the governments place to teach our children anything outside of academics? Why the double standards?

Interesting the school in the video isn't an American public school, but a private Quaker one.

[MorningGlory]

Tolerance of homosexuals is a necassary compononent of society. The difference between tolerating and not tolerating is the difference between you and Fred Phelps, the Pastor who holds protests outside of gay or military funerals. Tolerance is the difference between peaceful co-existence and criminal behavior.

It's fine to tolerate the individuals, to protect them from abuse, to be kind to them and to attempt to reach them. It is NOT fine to help them further their sinful agenda or to instill it into the next generation by teaching young children that it's an acceptable alternative lifestyle. It is NOT. It's a lifestyle that will earn one a permanent place in hell.