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I also find it funny that Obama is being judged as the one who will bring the country to its knees after just one week in office. When will we keep ourselves out of the seat reserved for Christ?

He claims to be a Christian. Read 1 Corinthians 5.

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If you read that chapter, it says things about judging a fellow believer who is in sin or unrepentent sin. It even tells us to ... gasp ... judge.

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If you read that chapter, it says things about judging a fellow believer who is in sin or unrepentent sin. It even tells us to ... gasp ... judge.

yes, we are to, but righteously.....

and how are we going to judge the angels if we are not able to handle the little things on this earth?

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Is God for aborticide?

Is God for homosexuality?

Did God not establish the nations and each with their own leader?

This man goes against the things of God. Therefore, God is not pleased. I don't need to be God to know what does and does not please my Father. All I have to do is read His Scriptures. Do you have any clue about NATIONAL sins? Daniel did. We're not dealing with individual sins here, we're dealing with NATIONAL LEVEL sins. Things that will bring a nation to its knees. If he keeps up this godless agenda, America will not prosper, she will incur the judgment of God.

Well, God is our Father first of all. And how long as legal abortion been in effect? Obama didnt start it. And in my opinion, its not up to Him to end it. Honestly let the states vote. As far as homosexuality is concerned...you want to ban it. :th_praying: That is foolishness.

Its funny now America is suppose to have its own leader, but in all reality America does have a different responsibility. We are a "super" power. WE are suppose to look out for those without...though we do a poor job, and many do stuff if it gets us more.

I also find it funny that Obama is being judged as the one who will bring the country to its knees after just one week in office. When will we keep ourselves out of the seat reserved for Christ?

It doesn't matter how long 'legal' aborticide has been in effect. First of all, IT'S NOT LEGAL TO GOD, nor is it moral. IT IS however a national sin and it will bring judgment. In fact, it's already bringing judgment. Do you really think that all of these economic problems just happened?

Obama may not have started government-sponsored aborticide but his recent actions certainly have made it more accessible to the rest of the world. If the man knew the reason for coming up with aborticide, he might not be so in favor of it: Margaret Sanger was a believer in eugenics and she wanted aborticide to GET RID OF BLACK CHILDREN. The woman was a flaming racist.

I also certainly hope that the capital H on him was not meant for Obama but just a typo. The states don't need to vote, Congress needs to say NO MORE and lead the nation in repentance before God. Are you insane enough to support aborticide and claim Christ? Please tell me I'm wrong.

Homosexuality is so obviously wicked that your statement is just ridiculous. Go read Genesis 19. Then read what Jesus had to say about how the days before His return would be like those of Sodom. Or do you also support homosexuality? Ban it? Make it illegal to practice is more like it. Like it used to be. It's filth. Government has NO BUSINESS AT ALL allowing immorality to flourish. Neither aborticide nor homosexuality has ANY PLACE in American society. How can you as a Believer even advocate its condolence? Hmm? What people do in their bedroom is on their head. When they walk down the street half-naked in parades, demand to be given the same status and benefits as normal people and the government APPROVES OF THEIR CONDUCT, that is a national sin. When the President approves of such in the military, contrary to good order and discipline, it is a national sin. And when Believers refuse to call it what it is, or approve of it, that is called APOSTASY.

God expects HIS PEOPLE to cry out against wickedness, not condone it. We condone such conduct by our silence.

And the so-called superpower concept is foreign to Scripture. We owe the rest of the world absolutely nothing. If they'd tended to their own affairs, the battlegrounds of Europe would not have all of those American graves. The United States went and got involved in two wars and saved the rest of the world's bacon. America owes the rest of the world NOTHING. Superpower my eye. We've sent them the blood of our sons and the fruit of our labors long enough, what have THEY ever sent US? Little if anything.

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Grace to you,

Ruck,

I think it is a genuine concern to question his Socialist policies that lead to less Freedom and to focus on his first full press interview to the Muslim world. It informs us of how he will lead and where his mindset is. I also think in light of what sister Jade just proffered, first hand experience, and what we know of past examples in the Muslim world of no outrage over Terrorits attacks. That we can draw some conclussions about how this effort might play in the Mulim world and especially amongst the radicals who really aren't impressed with talk.

Again, I will state that the very same policy that the President is pursuing is the same thing that Terrorist radicals have voiced over and over again that they want. President Obama started out stating that America has often dictated terms. This is the exact langage that the radicals in the Muslim world use as a justification for attacking us. Remember, we did not instigate the actions that started this War. It is the exact sentiments that President Obama expressed today that the Muslim radicals have used as justifcation for their continued efforts and reasoning as to why they can act with impunity. Meanwhile, like it or not, the Muslim world sits sadly by and remans silent for the same reasons that Sister Jade just expressed.

The individuals that have boldy spoken out have quickly been targetted for extermination in the whole of the Muslim world thus effectively silencing them in their own native lands. The Muslim run Governments sit idly by and express no support for these same bold individuals.

I think that we can rationally draw from this evidence that trying to negotiate with and even sympathizing with a list of supposed grievances for naked aggression is Naive at best and ignorant at worst. :th_praying:

I have reservations about President Obama's Christianity because of his own expressed understanding of Christianty and who Jesus Christ is. I have researched his public professions. I would also use his actions as evidence that if he is a Christian that he does not practice his Faith. I do not know whether he's regenerated or not, I do know what I see and hear though. :laugh: No regenerated Christian would make it easier to obtain an abortion or have Homosexual unions. :blink:

I don't think folks are upset and trying to take him down by questioning his motives and actions. We are going on what he has already done. I believe that it is fair to draw conclussions on that and to even begin to question the obvious direction he is going in and has telegraphed in the past.

My personal opinion is that it was a very unwise move to almost apologize for the U.S. and our actions. This will signal weakness and it is hand in hand with the sentiment expressed by radical Islam that America is a Paper Tiger and not in for a long fight.

Peace,

Dave

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Is God for aborticide?

Is God for homosexuality?

Did God not establish the nations and each with their own leader?

This man goes against the things of God. Therefore, God is not pleased. I don't need to be God to know what does and does not please my Father. All I have to do is read His Scriptures. Do you have any clue about NATIONAL sins? Daniel did. We're not dealing with individual sins here, we're dealing with NATIONAL LEVEL sins. Things that will bring a nation to its knees. If he keeps up this godless agenda, America will not prosper, she will incur the judgment of God.

Amen, brother. Including the edited out part!

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God will lead his people as He sees fit. Make no mistake brothers and sisters. The Muslim community ever how you look at serves not our one and only true Savior Jesus Christ. I find myself seeing Christians every day who are passivised toward the Muslim world. Yet I say to you as Christians. We all read the same Bible. We can not just read one part and not obey the other parts. Just the same the Muslims can not just read part of there book and not obey the other parts. There is no other God besides my living breathing awesome God. Any other god in this world is my Lord's enemy and I will stand behind my King Jesus Christ. Our Bible teaches that these Muslims as you call them will be mad men all there days. So I will neither support a Muslim who says they are peace being or radical

Are you advocating a holy war? We are the passivists. We speak truth and salvation to all men.

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I have reservations about President Obama's Christianity because of his own expressed understanding of Christianty and who Jesus Christ is. I have researched his public professions. I would also use his actions as evidence that if he is a Christian that he does not practice his Faith. I do not know whether he's regenerated or not, I do know what I see and hear though. :thumbsup: No regenerated Christian would make it easier to obtain an abortion or have Homosexual unions. :thumbsup:

I can understand what you are saying in most of your response. This is where we must be careful though brother. Do you fully understand Christ...does that make you not a Christian. Also your last sentence is far from the truth.

There was a believer...a brother that was in fornication in the Corithian Church. Was he no longer a brother? The fact is you, nor I, or anyone on worthy for that matter,sits and fellowships with Obama on a personal level. I dont know what that man understands about our Lord. Have you ever heard Bush end a prayer in the name of Jesus Christ...but since he opposes abortion and homosexuality that makes him a Christian. There are many people who are not Christians that oppose homosexuality, and abortions, yet...the wheat will be seperated from the tares.

Dont throw out the baby with the bathwater. You may also be judged just as harshly by fellow christians and not even know it.

Ruck,

You didn't see me cast Judgement on his belief or lack thhereof. What you saw me say was that by his actions and profession I see no fruit born in his life. He will have to deal with our Lord over that if he truly believes.

However, what the scripture that Jade posted said was to cast the immoral brother out of fellowship to allow satan to destroy his flesh lest he perishh alltogether. It is also so that his actions will not taint or leaven the Body. :thumbsup: The scripture even goes as far as stating that we should not associate with someone who takes these actions or even promotes them. :thumbsup:

I haven't heard Bush end a prayer with Jesus Christ but I have heard him state that Jesus Christ changed his life. That is a profession of Faith. What I have heard Obama say is that there are many paths to heaven. That is in juxtapositon to the Word.

The Gospel is simple for a reason, even a child can understand it. It's not a complicated thing to profess Faith in Christ. Fully understanding Him is another matter alltogether and that is not what we are talking about.

Peace,

Dave

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A brother named Leonard Ravenhill said it best. "You can't legislate righteousness"

O how true that statement is.

I wish more people would understand that and quit trying to get the govt to do our job for us.

We shouldn't be supporting an amoral government, either. And that's what we have here.

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A brother named Leonard Ravenhill said it best. "You can't legislate righteousness"

O how true that statement is.

I wish more people would understand that and quit trying to get the govt to do our job for us.

We shouldn't be supporting an amoral government, either. And that's what we have here.

Did you support the previous administration? Or the one before that? How about Bush 41? Find morality and Christian values in any of these governments...if you can.

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