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  2. Firstly, Jesus appears at the 7th Vial, not the 6th Seal, as a matter of fact the 6th Seal is merely a "Prophetic Utterance" only. The Wrath of God does not actually come unto the Rev. 8 Asteroid Impact (first 4 Trumps are one event which starts God's wrath which continues with Woe's 1, 2 and 3 and the 3rd Woe is the 7 Vials, and Jesus shows up in Rev. 16:19, at the 7th Vial. Now lets discuss why you are actually pointing towards a very, very important point in time, and why the A.C. needs to send out lying spirits. I will do this by asking you a question about the 6th Seal who FORETELLS what's going to happen when the wrath of God falls and the 7 Trumps contain all of Gods wrath, because the 7 vials emit from the 7th Trump. We know the 6th Seal says these men will hide in caves, too scared to come out, begging to be killed by the rocks. Lets take that info and ponder thus QUESTION: If you were not of God, and had taken the Mark of the Beast, then this Asteroid strikes, burning a 1/3 of the worlds trees, houses etc. etc. and the 1st Woe of tormenting Demons tormented you for 5 months, then the 200 Million Angels (thats what they are, they DELIVER God's Plagues, Satan CAN NOT kill Satan, Jesus said so) killed 1/3 of those who had taken the Mark of the Beast. Finally the 7th Trump sounds and starts the 3rd Woe, which is the 7 Vials, and as they were poured out men got grievous sores and boils if they had the Mark of the Beast, and they were scorched by the sun, and so......... THE QUESTION IS......... in this case, with all of these plagues pounding down, would you not be "HIDING IN A CAVE"? So, the answer is not why doesn't the Anti-Christ have power he does (but ONLY over the E.U. and Mediterranean Sea Region) but of course men are in hiding, he can not raise a standing army per se, BUT............alas, God needs the COWARDS to all gather at Armageddon, so he needs to STOP the plagues long enough to give the Anti-Christ, False Prophet and Satan the Dragon time enough to convince the kings of the WHOLE WORLD and their armies to come against Israel. In so doing Jesus upon his return can then wipe them all out. But its Satan's last gasp desperation Hail Mary. He has to wipe out every Jews in order to prove God i a liar. So, he needs to lie to these cowards cowering in caves, basements etc. etc. So, he dries up his PLAGUES not the Euphrates River, which is just is a METAPHOR, long enough so those cowards in hiding can be persuaded to come out of hiding, go to Jerusalem and kill off al the Jews. So, what is the lie? The tell them, those Two Jewish Witnesses wrought all this havoc, they have now been killed, yes they prayed down every plague in public, on national TV before they happened, you all saw it, one by one, they even prayed down the these grievous sores, the scorching sun plague etc. before they died, but now its al STOPPED, so lets go kill every last Jew and this can NEVER, EVER HAPPEN AGAIN !! And these cowards who have the Mark of the Beast are easily talked into this, but alas we know their fate. This is the ONLY REASON that the Two-witnesses are even allowed to "die" and be raised, they have Glorious bodies, they do not need to "DIE" to be taken to Heaven right? God allows them to die so those men in caves can be fooled into thinking victory might be possible. We all know modern armies can cross rivers, so why do we not understand this Metaphor? The Euphrates DRYING UP is merely God DRYING UP His Plagues just long enough for these lying demons to entice these coward unto the Armageddon Battle where the "SPECTACLE" of Jesus slaying them all by the presence of his coming, will forever be understood as good conquering evil once and for all. The Anti-Christ is not in control of men per se, he is for a bit. Here is why? The First Four Trumps IMHO, come against the New World (the 1/3) so that will not affect the A.C. he is killing and maiming at will in the E.U. and the Mediterranean Sea Region ONLY, he never conquers the whole world, he conquers the WHOLE EARTH or land being spoken about in the 7 Headed (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece, Rome and the A.C.) 10 Horned (E.U.) Region. The First Woe is merely Demons torturing men for 5 months..........BUT WHO and WHY? I think its like when Moses drew the line and said stand ye this day on God's side or stand ye on their side as he came down with the 10 Commandments. These Demons are allowed by God (1st Woe, its a Plague from God) to torture those who are in limbo imho, not to kill them, but they must choose God or Satan (Mark of the Beast) one way or another, those who chose God will probably be killed after the 5 month period, or instantly by humans, but not by the Demons who can only torture. Then the 2nd Woe is 200 Million Angels who orders kick in after every person has made a CHOICE, they start killing 1/3 of all men who have taken the Mark of the Beast these ARE NOT Demons, only Angels will kill Satan's allies, Satan can not kill Satan. Then finally the 3rd Woe comes, like I stated above, at the 6th Vial, God DRIES UP His Plagues (Euphrates River is a Metaphor) in order to ENTICE the cowards to show up at Armageddon.
  3. To coin an old secular adage, “The closer to the bone, the sweeter the meat.” The closer we get to the source material and references, the more detail and accuracy. My point is: 1 Thes. 4: 15For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore lcomfort one another with these words. [emphasis mine] On scripture: I am not dogmatic, but I see nowhere in scripture that teaches a partial rapture. How could we comfort one another knowing some of our beloved brethren and loved ones missed the church age (age of Grace) Rapture and Resurrection? It seems the pronoun WE is all-encompassing and all-inclusive. I mentioned the early so-called church fathers. Polycarp was a personal friend and disciple of John the Revelator, studying under John, not to mention Irenaeus under Polycarp and all the other so-called Ante-Nicene fathers. None of them knew what is spouted today as partial raptures. Short of reverifying, I do not recall any Reformation leaders of the sixteenth century mentioning partial raptures. This doctrinal introduction is a product of the 19th century, which is very late in Biblical terms. It is not to say there will only be one rapture and one glorification. I believe those Tribulation martyrs (and ourselves) will return with Christ at His 2nd coming, then having their glorified bodies. And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled. (Revelation 6:11) The final resurrection is the Great White Throne judgment, where those not written in the Lamb’s Book of Life are bodily resurrected, condemned, and join the Antichrist and False Prophet in the Lake of Fire. I also would like @AdHoc to chime in. I consistently learn from you both, getting alternate views and thoughts.
  4. Let me just say that, as interesting as it is, much further discussion of the rapture should probably be done in a separate thread, as the topic has the propensity to take off!
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  7. It's a remnant from spiritual Israel, which includes a remnant of full blooded Jews, who are among spiritual Israel, whom God will gather from the four corners of the world, and four winds of heaven.
  8. Isaiah 11:11 tells of a second time God will gather His people. Isaiah 11:16, informs us that the first gathering was from Egypt, not Babylon. Keep in mind, Isaiah's time was prior to Israel's expulsion to Babylon, and so Isaiah 11:11 would not be referring to a 2nd gathering, if the return from Babylon represented the first gathering. Isaiah 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea. Isaiah 11:16 And there shall be an highway for the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria; like as it was to Israel in the day that he came up out of the land of Egypt.
  9. What I am seeing on some YouTube videos, is that many nations economies are on the brink of collapse (Argentina and China, among others). While the U.S. is currently not in this predicament;--when a number of these other nations economies collapse, exports from the U.S. to these collapsed economies will then also collapse, thereby putting the US economy on a much worse footing. As such, I then believe that todays current economic woes are a precursor to tomorrows new world order of the beast.
  10. In my opinion: First, let's not confuse the Kingdom of Heaven with the Kingdom of God; I do not think they are synonymous. Without side-tracking to detail them, Matthew differentiates them by the Kingdom of Heaven 30 times and the Kingdom of God 5 times. Your question pertained to the Kingdom of God: And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. (Mark 1:15) [emphasis added] Your allusion omitted the keyword, answering the question, the gospel. The Kingdom of God, as portrayed in the synoptic Gospel of Mark 1:15, highlights how Jesus is seen as the Messiah King who has come to restore God's intention for humanity and creation. The Kingdom of God is depicted as the antidote to the fall, bringing salvation and wholeness to the world. Jesus is presented as the inaugurator of this new kingdom, with his ministry focused on calling people to repent and believe in the good news. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. (Romans 1:16) What prophetic time in scripture is it? All the OT promises of the coming Messiah have arrived. "The Old Testament is the New Testament concealed; the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed." Out with the old, and in with the new: The last OT prophet John the Baptist and the Law are being replaced by Grace and the Lord's sacrificial death for our justification, sanctification, and atonement. It was offered to the Jews first, and as a nation, they rejected their Messiah and unjustly murdered Him. Fortunately for us Gentiles, we were grafted into the vine. On Dominica Palmarum, Jesus made His triumphal entry to Jerusalem atop of an ass. To present Himself as the Jews Messiah, AND to usher in the Kingdom of Heaven. Because of that rejection, the Kingdom of Heaven has been postponed for two millennia now. Thus: Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy. (Daniel 9:24) This now takes place starting at the beginning of the seven-year Tribulation, concluding with the second advent of our Lord at the close of the Tribulation. Right or wrong, I hope my explanation clarifies my thoughts. Quid pro quo: What are your thoughts, and where do we differ?
  11. Thank you for asking I’m doing good I feel it made me stronger in a way, also I agree with, and appreciate your post very much. I’m sorry it took so long for me to post back, I have had some issues to take care of I had Covid symptoms recently from stomach, and tooth infections causing some what of sepsis. Also some brain stem issues that have caused me to pass out of of conciousnious . It has also caused me to not be able to move for like 5 minutes when I wake up it just started about 2 weeks ago. So I apologize sincerely for not getting back to your guys replies I know I do this a lot, I just had a lot of physical things going on right now AND spiritual.
  12. Hi again Rdj, While you believe Isaiah 12 is solely about full blood Jews; I on the other hand believe these to be composed of all who believe in the Way of Christ (the remnant survivors, including full blood Jews), whom the Lord shall have gathered from the four corners of the earth, and four winds of heaven, to place them in the desolated lands of Israel and other desolated Middle Eastern nations, following the Abomination of desolations carnage.
  13. By Stefan J. Bos, Chief International Correspondent Worthy News BUDAPEST (Worthy News) – One of Europe’s most prominent anti-Islam politicians was on his way to Budapest to address the world’s largest conservative radical right gathering where like-minded leaders seek to chase out “the liberal order” in upcoming elections. Geert Wilders of the Dutch Party for Freedom, or PVV, arrives in the Hungarian capital for the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) amid concerns that growing migration from Islamic nations contributed to rising antisemitism in his native Netherlands. His ally and friend, Hungarian nationalist Prime Minister Viktor Orbán, shares Wilders views. “He was among the first to congratulate me when I won the recent Dutch elections,” Wilders said in an interview. Ahead of his arrival, Orbán opened the two-day gathering on Thursday in a speech that stressed the need for right-wing forces to end the world’s “liberal order” and defeat the “progressive world spirit.” Speaking to an enthusiastic crowd, Orbán urged his audience to support former U.S. President Donald J. Trump’s reelection bid, saying: “Let’s make America Great again, Let’s make Europe great again.” Orbán suggested that the multiple court cases faced by Trump on allegations such as financial wrongdoing and obstruction of justice were political trials. “If necessary, they will use government agencies against us — as my American friends say, ‘weaponizing state institutions,’” Orbán said. “This happens to us Hungarians constantly in Brussels. This is what is happening to President Trump in America, and we encourage him to fight for his own truth not only in the elections but also in the courts.” He added: “Go Donald Trump, go European sovereigntists! Let’s saddle up, put on our armor, head to the battlefield, and begin the election battle!” EU, US ELECTIONS European Union elections in June and U.S. presidential elections in November, Orbán said, could launch a new “era of sovereignty” modeled on Hungary, which he claimed was a “conservative island.” “These elections coincide with major shifts in world political and geopolitical trends,” Orbán stressed. “The order of the world is changing, and we must usher our cause to triumph in the midst of these changes. Progressive liberals feel the danger. Replacing this era means replacing them.” Yet CPAC was also seen as a welcome distraction from his political troubles following several scandals. In recent months, several senior officials, including the president and justice minister, were forced to resign over a scandal involving a presidential pardon to a man implicated in a child sexual abuse case at an orphanage. Additionally, more details emerged about corruption following a leaked recording suggesting government officials encourage removing files in corruption cases. Emerging from the scandals was political newcomer Péter Magyar, a former insider within Orbán’s ruling Fidesz party who shot to prominence through his allegations of massive corruption and cronyism among the country’s leaders. Magyar this month mobilized about 100,000 anti-Orbán demonstrators in central Budapest, according to Worthy News estimates, and he announced a new party that will participate in EU elections. CRACKDOWN CRITICIZED Orbán, Europe’s longest reigning leader, had brushed aside allegations of corruption, rule-of-law concerns, and a perceived crackdown on critical media. He has been angered over the decision by Brussels to postpone billions of euros (dollars) in EU funding over these issues. Orbán said his government had been punished over its decision to stand up against LGBTQ+ “propaganda,” its decision to defend traditional family and Christian values and anti-migration policies. Hungary’s refusal to send weapons to Ukraine but instead push for peace talks also created tensions with the West. Orbán spoke at the third Hungarian iteration of CPAC, an event that this year features numerous radical rights figures, including U.S. media personality Jack Posobiec, Republican Paul Gosar of Arizona, and Wilders. Another speaker of the rightwing nationalist Vlaams Belang or ‘Flemish Interest’ party, legislator Tom Van Grieken, agreed with Orbán’s assessment. Van Grieken said conservatives will unite in the interest of Europe today. He joked that although being a politician from Brussels, he “won’t ban CPAC,” referring to a similar conference in the Belgian capital, which was briefly broken up by police last week. Organizers declared CPAC a “no woke zone” where critical journalists, including from Worthy News, aren’t welcome. Coverage would be possible at “future events when and if your organization becomes significantly less woke,” journalists were told. The post Anti-Islam Leaders At Hungary’s CPAC Conference appeared first on Worthy Christian News. View the full article
  14. https://www.biblescandals.com/index.html You should check this out
  15. I suspect you are aware that during the first gathering of Israel from Egypt, that included among the Exodus were many others who were not physically born Jews, who were assimilated into the new nation to be. As such, how do you explain these non born of Jacob, Israelites, (including Moses' wife), being of Abraham?
  16. Good morning Rdj, I don't know if all of the faith in Christ who believe in love, truth, and justice, get killed during the beasts 42 month reign, but it certainly is the vast majority, with only a remnant indicated coming away with their skins following the beasts 42 month reign. These remnant believing survivors (including a remnant of full blood Jews), are whom the beast, the false prophet and Satan will come to make war against in Armageddon (Revelation 16). This event occurs after the Lord has gathered these remnant believers from the four corners/winds of the earth, bringing them to the Middle East which will earlier have been desolated by the Abomination of Desolation. Revelation 14 (in retrospect to following chapters of Revelation), indicates the first harvest of the earth being they who believe in love, truth, and justice. I believe these faithful first harvest are those killed in Armageddon. The second harvest is of the nonbelieving, who are unloving, lying, and unjust, who are they in Revelation 16, who experience all of Gods wrath. Revelation 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
  17. Let him without sin cast the first stone is also a Biblical guidance recorded as coming directly from the lips of our Lord Yeshua. Addicted? Hmm then many of us are addicted* to this day that have illnesses like Addison's disease. My Lord also has said that to lust in one's heart is the same as to lust in the action of lust. To then note that someone's wife is beautiful, well just how close to lust might that become? To cluster an entire family together as one deserving a general condemnation seems a bit harsh to me. It has taken me decades to come to the fuller understanding that JFK was indeed heroic in saving a member of his crew from death during WWII, and that later he was a master negotiator that did manage to shutdown two nations that were at the ready to pretty much end life on earth as we know it, and instead got both nations to back away, reducing the proximity to each other's borders weapons of their massive destructive power that each had. Not bad, not bad at all, for a Democrat (LOL). Or even a Republican. * dependent is a better more accurate word if one is in pain due to a disease or injury that requires overcoming pain. Addiction is a term for those that do not have pain, but do still use drugs intended for pain relief or disease management whether legal or not.
  18. In doing a little reading about the spiritual meaning of a frog in contemporary 'spiritual' culture, the frog is a symbol of transformation, purity and prosperity, among other ideas. It's possible the kings of the earth that are deceived are steeped in the esoteric new age occultism that sees frogs this way; spiritual signs of wealth, prosperity, transformation, purity, etc. It's said in Rev 16 these demons are 'like' frogs. The idea being a resemblance to a frog whether that's a marsh leaper or an actual frog. I would think they aren't 'frogs' but bear enough of a likeness that to the kings about to be deceived, it's a frog. That semblance would have a message for the soon to be deceived kings that positive change is on the way and with it, wealth, health and prosperity, before the frog said a word, if they speak. I would think in order to complete the deception the frogs would speak, but who knows? The deception is the frog brings the message of transformation[of the good kind], wealth and prosperity, when in fact the joining together to battle at Armageddon is their doom. Maybe it isn't so much the beast has had his power diminished, as it is the need for messengers to preach their gospel, enticing the kings through the weakness of the flesh and the promise of the multitude of merchandise. But idk. I'm just speculating. :)
  19. Good morning, I guess there are so many variant understandings of the effect of water baptism along with when and how it may be done to what purpose that if one anchors on one understanding only for themself they may not find the view of others to even be possible. I am only sharing that it is possible and that I know many that were resistant or hesitant, having nothing to do with their reliance on the faith of Jesus for their salvation. Some endorse infant baptism some endorse sprinkling some have tanks some insist on rivers or lakes or oceans to be used some believe it is absolutely necessary element for salvation an dthat without it one is not saved. The variation of understandings is vast, almost unlimited.
  20. God's desire is that we fully understand our Christ identity and the extent of the calling on the lives of His saints. The call is immense – full of His "kabod" glory, and it is vital to our covenant DESTINY in Christ that we have His revelation on the fullness of the call in this incredible hour we are chosen to serve Him in. "...according to the power of God, who has saved us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace which was given to us in Christ Jesus before time began..." - 2 Timothy 1:8-9. The words "holy calling" can also mean a sacred invitation given to us (individually) by God to partner and join with Him in fulfilling His purpose for our life, intended by Him and given before time began. Romans 8 declares that the suffering we experience, or that we will ever experience, is not to be compared to the incredible glory God intends to reveal in us. Building upon this revelation, Paul goes on to say that the whole earth is eagerly waiting in expectation for the eyes of the sons and daughters to be opened to the truth that they are the sons of God, and they begin to step out in their holy CALLING in Christ! Why is the earth in travail over this? Paul answers that it is because the earth will be delivered from bondage and corruption into the glory, liberty, and freedom that the sons of God are prepared to let loose on humanity by bearing fruit that remains for God’s Kingdom in the earth. COMPLETING OUR ASSIGNED DESTINY In Jeremiah 29, God says that He knows the plans He has for us! We have each been called to a specific work, a unique assignment prepared for us (God's purpose for our life) before we were born – God's purpose is that we should walk in it and fulfill our CALLING in Christ on this generation. "For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works (labor), which God prepared beforehand (ordained before) that we should walk in them." - Ephesians 2:10 When God calls, for some, the first tendency is to resist and to make objections: we are too insignificant, we have no platform, we have no money or education, we have no voice, we cannot speak, we cannot write, and on and on we go in unbelief. But God declared to Jeremiah that he would fulfill the CALLING because He would be with him, that He would protect him, and that He would put His words in his mouth. MANIFEST THE FIRE AND GLORY WITHIN God admonishes all sons and daughters of God, to release Kingdom glory, to do great damage to the kingdom of darkness, and release captives from spiritual imprisonment by mentoring them into their Christ identity. We are to let our light shine! This means to manifest the fire and the glory within! It is time to show up, to come forth, and arise! Our journey, after leaving the womb of our mother, has been to find our way back to Father God, to the CALLING and original intention of God given to us individually before time began. All children of God are born again in Christ as Sons of God, indelibly united to the Firstborn Son of God. The Father chose us before, in Christ, to be the image of Christ. We are one with Him in life, call, purpose, and destiny – an army of voices crying out, "PREPARE THE WAY OF THE LORD!" ALBERT FINCH MINISTRY
  21. The media is now saying it. Your thoughts?
  22. Not true. The exact years Noah, Adam and etc etc etc lived are written in the bible. Calling that an addition to scripture is a lie. At least you do not even pretend to be a believer. (except in your profile)
  23. Are you referring directly to 2:41-43? After the Stone (Messiah) in 2:34 strikes the feet and breaks apart the iron (Rome) from the clay (Jews) that were held captive in the feet of the Roman Empire (notice the new interpretation where 2:34 is not an end time event like 2:35, AND, the Stone action takes place WITHIN THE 4th kingdom. God reveals the 4 kingdoms within the metal man image AND THEN HE REVEALS THE 2 and ONLY 2 ACTIONS THAT HE WANTS US TO FOCUS IN IN CHAPTER 2. That would be 2:34 - His first coming and 2:35 - His second coming. Consequently, 2:41-45 provide the “details” that result (but only in a big picture way, since the true details begin in chapter 7. But getting back to your comment, His church would indeed begin 2:41 (after the cross) dilute to “pottery clay” going out into the Roman Empire preaching the Good News. Unfortunately, these same verses reveal the “divided” kingdom composed of “partly clay and partly iron” - IN THAT ORDER (church) would be taken over by the Gentiles and remove the Jews from His church. This is what 2:41-43 is all about— the appropriation of His church by the Gentiles, their bringing in pagan practices and idols, and after the demise of pagan Rome, papal Rome headed by the little horn (papacy) would begin his reign over secular and church matters. I don’t know if this is what you were alluding to… let me know.
  24. Unfortunately you have to pay attention to WHERE the sources are. I'm sure I could find sources that say anything. If I asked that exact question to a conservative site and a liberal site, I'm betting I would get 2 wildly different answers. So yes I could simply Google it, but you must be very careful with the actual sources your information is coming from.
  25. The Gentiles indeed took over because it meant to be. As it was foretold that more are the children of the non favor wife than the favor one. (Figure that out and fill in the blanks).
  26. I agree. All of these sham trials are just political stunts. Everyone sees that.
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