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Quite possible true, very true. And COOL thing is , no one can prove you wrong about this ..... < SMILE > There's a lot of different 'fanciful' stories going around for the last what, 1300 years ? < shrugs > No proof....

The early ecclesia, I found, according to SCRIPTURE were every day full of joy, peace, and righteousness, not just when they were meeting. There's descriptions of this in the NEW TESTAMENT, and why it was (and is ) so. They definitely weren't bored, as the same spirit that RAISED CHRIST FROM THE DEAD dwelt in them ! They were living the resurrection life in CHRIST JESUS as the FATHER demonstrated HIS WISDOM and KNOWLEDGE and SALVATION / HEALING in their bodies. Likewise in meetings of ecclesia TODAY, and in the many years since I've been saved, the LIFE OF YHWH is PRESENT and healing and nurturing and uplifting and edifying and righteous, as well as present with perfect judgment according to HIS WORD (thus the assembly remaining whole, alive, and clean) .....

This is why we (ecclesia trusting and relying on YHWH HIMSELF, daily, every day) do not put our trust in anyone without proving them by YHWH'S WORD and PRAYER as YHWH directs, not even in the Apostle's IF any message ever comes or seems to come from one IT IS TESTED and PROVEN BEFORE being accepted. That's why so many billions got deceived from early centuries thru TODAY - they did not trust YHWH and did not TEST the "messages" (doctrines) BEFORE accepting them - thus many doctrines of the flesh, men, and of demons got introduced and used to trick people and to keep them oppressed.

As Y'SHUA warned HIS disciples already 2000 years ago, there were and are many false teachers and many false prophets - NOT many true teachers, and NOT many true prophets. So , that is why many people find doctrines confusing. They often contradict the TRUTH. YHWH grants understanding of HIS WORD to those HE calls and chooses and sets apart (HIS children, HIS disciples). YHWH is the ONLY ONE WHO is able to take away the veil.(as written in SCRIPTURE), So the veil remains for many.

YHWH is SALVATION. From BibleHub, this paragraph was titled for repentance - Invitation to Repentance …22"Return, O faithless sons, I will heal your faithlessness." "Behold, we come to You; For You are the LORD our God. 23"Surely, the hills are a deception, A tumult on the mountains. Surely in the LORD our God Is the salvation of Israel. 24"But the shameful thing has consumed the labor of our fathers since our youth, their flocks and their herds, their sons and their daughters.… New American Standard Bible New International Version Surely the idolatrous commotion on the hills and mountains is a deception; surely in the LORD our God is the salvation of Israel. New Living Translation Our worship of idols on the hills and our religious orgies on the mountains are a delusion. Only in the LORD our God will Israel ever find salvation. ----------------------------------------- A few have noted that it seems the days of the gentiles are either over, or the last day is soon. Worldwide, idolatry has been rampant for centuries, in most countries.

Technically, YHWH IS SPIRIT. (not "a" spirit) And as it is written, YHWH is holy. So are HIS children.

Yes, politically and religiously, (actually same as happened to JESUS)..... the 'guilty' unrepentant are released, encouraged and promoted; the GOSPEL MESSAGE bringers suffer, are persecuted(yes, it is necessary), and quashed. They have the power and the numbers.... they can "get away" with it for now....

Okay, thanks. From the title that wasn't clear.

Sometimes it doesn't fit someone's "agenda". YHWH'S WORD is WONDERFUL, COMPLETE, and FREEDOM to those who LOVE HIM, who are called according to HIS PURPOSE ! From Colossians/ Biblegateway TLB and blotted out the charges proved against you, the list of his commandments which you had not obeyed. He took this list of sins and destroyed it by nailing it to Christ’s cross. MSG Entering into this fullness is not something you figure out or achieve. It’s not a matter of being circumcised or keeping a long list of laws. No, you’re already in—insiders—not through some secretive initiation rite but rather through what Christ has already gone through for you, destroying the power of sin. If it’s an initiation ritual you’re after, you’ve already been through it by submitting to baptism. Going under the water was a burial of your old life; coming up out of it was a resurrection, God raising you from the dead as he did Christ. When you were stuck in your old sin-dead life, you were incapable of responding to God. God brought you alive—right along with Christ! Think of it! All sins forgiven, the slate wiped clean, that old arrest warrant canceled and nailed to Christ’s cross. He stripped all the spiritual tyrants in the universe of their sham authority at the Cross and marched them naked through the streets. MEV He blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us and contrary to us, and He took it out of the way, nailing it to the cross. MOUNCE having canceled the certificate of debt with its legal demands against us, which was hostile to us. · He has taken it away · by nailing it to the cross. NOG He did this by erasing the charges that were brought against us by the written laws God had established. He took the charges away by nailing them to the cross.

Trust YHWH. HIS WORD is TRUTH.

Yes. Rest as YHWH says. Without obedience, there is no rest. People must cease (from their own works) to be able to abide in HIM, YHWH WILLING, thru Y'SHUA.

"Money cannot buy me! Government cannot silence me!" Sharp Contrast [opposite] to the other thread about worldly christendom. All the people at church I ask (any church the last 5 years) say they will do what the government says in order to be secure.(to have their money/food/house). (instead of doing what YHWH(GOD) says)

Not if a person follows JESUS, believes in JESUS, listens to JESUS, the GOOD SHEPHERD, when they come to HIM, and do as HE SAYS, and HEARS HIS VOICE, (is saved using a Living Bible, or any other), is as HE SAYS better than devoting ones whole life to searching the SCRIPTURES thinking one will find life there but rejecting JESUS. Whenever 2 or 3 are gathered together talking about YHWH, 'even if they are using and reading "The English Bible", it is so important to HIM that HE keeps a permanent record of their words and says so in MALACHI, and elsewhere. Elsewhere , of course, it is written that everyone will account for every careless word , every empty word they speak also.

It was probably at most, a dream, she had herself, though the power of the enemy over her is apparent. Anything that she claims proves the BIBLE wrong of course is as a source of the enemy(the devil or demon), or of the flesh, opposed to YHWH.

YHWH says that is HIS MEANING, in every translation. Since HE SAYS CLEARLY it is rebellion, it is, and HE punishes those who rebel against HIM. Just like in the ARMY, eh ?

Are you starting that doctrine, or did someone else ? Who told you he was one of the original 12 ?

Perhaps, those who wake up may win the victory ..... and not die.... >>> Revelation 3 Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) 3 “To the angel of the Messianic Community in Sardis, write: ‘Here is the message from the one who has the sevenfold Spirit of God and the seven stars: “I know what you are doing — you have a reputation for being alive, but in fact you are dead! Wake up, and strengthen what remains, before it dies too! For I have found what you are doing incomplete in the sight of my God. So remember what you received and heard, and obey it, and turn from your sin! For if you don’t wake up, I will come like a thief; and you don’t know at what moment I will come upon you. Nevertheless, you do have a few people in Sardis who have not soiled their clothes; and they will walk with me, clothed in white, because they are worthy. . He who wins the victory will, like them, be dressed in white clothing; and . I will NOT BLOT his name out of the Book of Life; . . in fact, I will acknowledge him individually before my Father and before his angels. Those who have ears, let them hear what the Spirit is saying to the Messianic communities.”’

http://biblehub.com/revelation/12-11.htm ► Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony; they did not love their lives so much as to shrink from death. New Living Translation And they have defeated him by the blood of the Lamb and by their testimony. And they did not love their lives so much that they were afraid to die. English Standard Version And they have conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they loved not their lives even unto death.

Whether YHWH made them feel a certain way or not, multitudes of criminals, religious and government and military and medical, all may be led by feelings not to mention all the different spirits providing all the different (ungodly, unrighteous) FEELINGS at religious meetings all around the world ! So, the feelings CAN BE REAL, and very very forceful. Simple example - kleptos - someone who just HAS TO STEAL , or adulterers, someone who does it because "IT FEELS SO RIGHT IT MUST BE GOOD"..... Feelings are UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN UN ............... reliable and NOT to be followed...... not reliable, NOT TO BE TRUSTED. People , no matter how they feel, MAY be given a choice - CHOOSE TODAY WHO TO SERVE. No matter how it feels, EVERYONE MAKES THE CHOICE WHO TO SERVE. YHWH or the devil (flesh/ sin/ demons/ the world/ money/ FEELINGS/ family / church/ government/ military )..... ONLY ONE CHOICE , the narrow road, leads to life.

It is and will be , as it is written. There's a lot of unsupported speculation in this thread. (not to argue it, just realize a lot is fanciful dreaming)

"In CHRSIT there is neither Jew nor greek, male nor female, ....." conservative nor liberal....

It is more and deeper than lack of self control. It is what comes from the heart/ will/ choice.

There are physiological problems yes, associated with sin, just like someone sleeping with someone else's wife might claim he can't control himself, but the result of sin is still death.

Amein. (YHWH Reveals throughout SCRIPTURE) .... *Scripture: Revelation 21:27 Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will ... ... Nothing unclean, no one who does anything detestable, and no liars will ever enter it. Only those whose names are written in the ... //biblehub.com/revelation/21-27.htm - 19k Psalm 101:7 No one who practices deceit will dwell in my house; no ... ... I will not allow deceivers to serve in my house, and liars will not stay in ... No one who practices deceit shall dwell in my house; no one who utters lies shall ... //biblehub.com/psalms/101-7.htm - 17k

https://www.gotquestions.org/kingdom-heaven-God.html "Question: "What is the difference between the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Heaven?" Answer: While some believe that the Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven are referring to different things, it is clear that both phrases are referring to the same thing. The phrase “kingdom of God” occurs 68 times in 10 different New Testament books, while “kingdom of heaven” occurs only 32 times, and only in the Gospel of Matthew. Based on Matthew’s exclusive use of the phrase and the Jewish nature of his Gospel, some interpreters have concluded that Matthew was writing concerning the millennial kingdom while the other New Testament authors were referring to the universal kingdom. However, a closer study of the use of the phrase reveals that this interpretation is in error. ... ... ... "